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For those of you who own Westeds, what is the best and most comfortable lining? It says that the cotton silesia is what was used in the films, but the recommended lining is the cotton/silk combination. Any thoughts?

Thanks.

Of the three Westeds I've owned, 2 were cotton bodies & sleeves and one (my current 8-year old jacket) is satin/silk/whatever the #### they used back then.

I never noticed a difference in, say, temperature or comfort. The cotton, while screen accurate, did tend to ride up slightly as it was "stickier" for lack of a better word. That doesn't mean the silk doesn't ride up but not quite as bad.

The debate way back when had some maintain that the lining was silk due to the way the jacket flops around in the Flying Wing Fight in Raiders. This has since been debunked, but the silk does kind of flap around because it's a smoother fabric.

I know I'm making absolutely NO sense here and it sounds like rambling, but I know many people are happy with the cotton lining and silk sleeves since the silk slips on better over sleeves...

I'm pretty sure Wested and some folks suggest the cotton body and silk sleeves so that your shirt sleeves do not bunch up when putting on the jacket. I have 2 Westeds, one regular cut and one 80's fit. Both have cotton linings, no silk. I have never had any issues with either. My experience with other silk lined jackets is they wore though, so I stuck with the cotton.
Ben

Really? My Cotton Westeds all had holes in them after about 5 months of regular wear...my silk (sorry, what the #### is the right name for it?) has one spot after 8 years of harsh wear!

I had a standard cut Raiders with cotton body and satin sleeves and it was really comfortable. It's obvious why it's recommended. I never had any problems with any part of the liner getting holes in it. It seems to be common knowledge that the screen used jackets had cotton linings throughout, but in certain promo shots it looks to me more like satin.

I have a Wested Raiders with cotton body/silk arms--I like the arms that way for getting shirt sleeves through, but the cotton body is disentegrating for no apparent reason on very careful use. This is after 4 years.

I have been wearing my jacket quite often for 6 years. The leather is wearing on the lamb, but the lining is like new. I will say the Wested I got this year has a different cotton lining. I hope it holds up as well since I expect the horsehide to last. I hav no had any experience with Wested's other linings. I can only speak to what I know .
Ben

What silk? I thought Wested only offers cotton and satin?

Castor Dioscuri wrote:What silk? I thought Wested only offers cotton and satin?

They do also have a nylon which would be much stronger than the satin but I don't know how breathable that would be.

My first jacket was a lambskin with all satin, it was superbly comfortable to wear, actually quite luxurious a bit like a silk lined suit jacket but not as restrictive. BUT, when the weather got a bit warm it tended to get hot. Eventually after about 3 years of near daily use the edges of the vents wore through so you could put your finger into the lining. I'm sure I could have just fixed it with a few stitches and it would have been fine for another 3 years but I took it back to Peter and he replaced the lining for a small fee. Good as new! This time I had it in cotton, just as good and slightly crisper to wear especially when the weather got warmer.

I had another jacket that turned out to be about 10 years old from another member here, it was perfectly sound with no rips or worn areas, it was cotton. The outside of the jacket showed that it had been worn quite a lot.

My current best jacket is a NP with full cotton lining. 6 months of near daily wear, lining is as good as the day I bought it.

I had both put I preferred the cotton. The cotton has shredded now over the years so I'm going to Wested in July to have it replaced. Maybe for something stronger if Peter has anything stronger. Have no idea.

the silk body or whatever it is called, looks quite nice but it was to "slippery" if you know what I mean. the jacket was going from one place to another.

Best combination for me is the cotton body and the silk arms are the best option imo.

Does anyone know if Peter WOULD put in silk lining rather than satin(presumably for a fee)? Or if he would put in black cotton ala KOTCS?

I answered Wested about CS black lining: Gemma wrote me it's not a problem!

But I don't know about silk lining, sorry...

Mine has the cotton body and satin sleeves... it's very comfortable and I'd order it again.

Someone mentioned a nylon lining... I have a heavy-duty nylon lining in my Langlitz motorcycle jacket and it feels like it might outlast the leather..it's tough, but it comes at a slight comfort penalty because its thicker and doesn't breathe as well.

From what it sounds like, the cotton sleeves rip quite soon.

LJ

Zach R. wrote:Does anyone know if Peter WOULD put in silk lining rather than satin(presumably for a fee)? Or if he would put in black cotton ala KOTCS?

Well I got my gold silk lining on my Wested by ordering 2 meters of silk, and having it sent to Wested while they were making my jacket.

Just a few points of clarification here regarding fabrics:

cotton, silk, polyester and rayon are all types of fibers used to make fabric

Satin, sateen, plain weave, and twill (several sub types of twill weave)) are types of weaves of fabric
Satin is a soft smooth fabric generally made from silk, poly or nylon. If you make the same weave from cotton or rayon, you have sateen.

Some of the "cotton" linings of jackets are cotten sateen so that they will be soft and smooth and not grab and ride up. Cotten sateen, though, is also weaker than silk satin (or polyester satin for that matter) and tends to break down and tear sooner too especially with sweat and dirt getting in to break down the fibers.

In general, natural fibers breathe a little better than synthetics and the heavier, denser and more durable the fiber and weave, the less it breathes.

Rayon sateen is a nice alternative to silk satin if available (rayon is a man-made fiber made from cellulose); the kind to use is the machine washable kind since it stands up to getting sweated in without stretching out when wet as does the dry-clean only version. It also seems to breathe a little better than nylon.

Anyway, satin does not necessarily mean silk, in fact, "satin" usually is nylon or poly.

Regards from the sewing room,
Rambler

Sorry, I meant the satin wested lining above.