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Ok so Indy has a travelling fedora...its gray or grey whatever tickles your pickle. The Brown fedora...THE Indy hat is just all bulged and thrown in a case is that my understanding.?

I was just wondering as in some cases we tend to treat our lids like fine china . If Indy really was going on an adventure would he just fire the dusty, beaten up brown fedora into his bag?

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I would say he would probably just throw THE hat in his bag and go.

1) Aside from the abuse the hat goes through from all of its adventures, it still doesn't look very well cared for. Example: After he and Marion escape from the exploding plane and before the desert chase he, Marion, and Sallah, are laying down behind a big dirt bank and Indy is just holding his hat in the dirt, with it clenched in his hand.

2) Indy doesn't seem to take too much care of any of his gear. Example: When Marcus is at Indy's house Indy is packing. He just throws his jacket, whip, and gun straight into his suitcase. How many of us are going to just throw our whip, etc. right into our suitcase with other objects like a gun, right on top of it without thinking twice about it? So....if Indy would do that with some of his gear, why not his dirty "work' hat.

I could be wrong, this is just my 2 cents. Good question though.

IndianaBogart wrote:He just throws his jacket, whip, and gun straight into his suitcase. How many of us are going to just throw our whip, etc. right into our suitcase with other objects like a gun, right on top of it without thinking twice about it?

This seems quite natural for me since I do the same, but you have to be aware of the whole scene; I throw everything I think I’m going need on my travel straight to the suitcase, after I’m done thinking, then I fix everything inside in the best way I can based on what I’m taking to my trip.

I guess this is what HF does in the real world too? Just as many of us? (Single guys mostly I guess?)

People tend to put the hat on the pedestal these days because they're so heavily marked up, but in Indy's time you could get a good fedora cheap. Heck, I have a vintage Dobbs hat that has a price tag of only 15 bucks, and a Lee that was originally 10, and those would have just been good hats for the time.

IndianaBogart wrote: He just throws his jacket, whip, and gun straight into his suitcase. How many of us are going to just throw our whip, etc. right into our suitcase with other objects like a gun, right on top of it without thinking twice about it?

You need to go on an adventure

Let's face it, though....he's a snazzy dresser when he DOES travel. Consider his suits in Raiders and LC!

I personally believe we're not seeing ALL his luggage when he's boarding the plane in Raiders, and we NEVER see his luggage in LC. I think there's a hat box in the mix somewhere.

Regard! Michaelson

Consider his suits in Raiders and LC!

Not to mention the white dinner jacket in TOD.

I figure it's a matter of priority. When you're being hunted by Nazi's, messing up your lid just doesn't seem so bad!

I recall an older family member who explained to me that hats were like shoes back in the day. You had a good hat and a pair of good shoes that you treated with great care, and mainly wore to church, school, an office job, etc.
Then, when they got old and worn, they became your "anytime" hat and shoes, that you wore when good shoes and a perfect hat were not called for. So, I don't treating our hats so gently is all that strange.

Marcus Brody wrote:People tend to put the hat on the pedestal these days because they're so heavily marked up, but in Indy's time you could get a good fedora cheap. Heck, I have a vintage Dobbs hat that has a price tag of only 15 bucks, and a Lee that was originally 10, and those would have just been good hats for the time.

But, 10 or 15 bucks was a lot of money back then.

http://www.westegg.com/inflation/



What cost $10 in 1935 would cost $153.37 in 2007
What cost $10 in 1938 would cost $143.00 in 2007
What cost $10 in 1955 would cost $76.33 in 2007
What cost $10 in 1957 would cost $75.50 in 2007

What cost $15 in 1935 would cost $230.05 in 2007
What cost $15 in 1957 would cost $113.25 in 2007

What cost $300 in 1995 would cost $414.66 in 2007 wow

Keep in mind that Indy is pretty wealthy and could afford nice clothes (what were they going to buy back then, plasmas, xboxes, ipods?)

Bufflehead Jones wrote:

Marcus Brody wrote:People tend to put the hat on the pedestal these days because they're so heavily marked up, but in Indy's time you could get a good fedora cheap. Heck, I have a vintage Dobbs hat that has a price tag of only 15 bucks, and a Lee that was originally 10, and those would have just been good hats for the time.

But, 10 or 15 bucks was a lot of money back then.

True, but a 10 or 15 buck hat in those days were as I mentioned for good hats (which is actually a big understatement), but you could get decent hats even cheaper at 5 dollars and less. Just consider the fact, that you could get hats from Sears and Penney's back then. They weren't marked up like they are now because they were everyday clothing like shoes. Everyone had hats no matter how much money you had (or didn't have for that matter). Also, in terms of hats made today, you don't get your money's worth. Even if you were to get a 150 buck Stetson today, it would not compare to a hat from the 30s of equal price value adjusted for inflation. So even though a 10 dollar hat from the 30s may be close to 150 bucks today, a 150 dollar hat from today could not possibly compare in quality.

Another thing to mention is that Indy's adventuring hat(s) would probably not be the most expensive kind. Out of all my vintage hats, all but one has had a raw edge. I have also rarely seen any raw edge brims on most vintage hats in general. What this may indicate is that Indy's would most likely be a really cheap hat. This isn't always true, but it seems to be the general case of vintage hats.

Probably the most useful way to figure the relative "cost" of an item in different eras is to look at how many hours, days or weeks of labour it took to get the money to buy it.

If you earned $5/day in the 30's, a 5 cent cup of coffee was 1% of your day's wage. If you go to Starbucks today for your Super-Grande-Mocha-Decaf-Espresso-Supreme with Skim Milk, Shaved Chocolate, Curry Powder and 2 straws and pay $12.95 or whatever insane price they want for that nonsense (Thank God for Tim Horton's), what percentage of the day's wage is it? If you're earning $20/hr for an 8 hour day, it now costs you about 8% of your wage. On that basis, coffee is more expensive today.

Do the math for the true "cost" of a hat.

Curry Powder

You'd prefer a double-decaf lo-fat latte with a twist of lemon?

Chewbacca Jones wrote:I figure it's a matter of priority. When you're being hunted by Nazi's, messing up your lid just doesn't seem so bad!

I recall an older family member who explained to me that hats were like shoes back in the day. You had a good hat and a pair of good shoes that you treated with great care, and mainly wore to church, school, an office job, etc.
Then, when they got old and worn, they became your "anytime" hat and shoes, that you wore when good shoes and a perfect hat were not called for. So, I don't treating our hats so gently is all that strange.

True! I know all the men in my family up to and including my Dad had this practice.

Regards! Michaelson

Indy's "Traveling Hat" might also be called his "Dress-Up Hat". People used to dress-up to travel instead of the current abysmal style of "barely-dressed". One simply wasn't admitted to most bars, clubs, and restaurants without jacket & tie -- couldn't even sit in a Hotel Lobby unless "properly attired". American have been dressing like Slobs for a while now, so almost everyone has the idea that "Dress Casual" equals "Dress Sloppy".

YARVTON wrote:Indy's "Traveling Hat" might also be called his "Dress-Up Hat". People used to dress-up to travel instead of the current abysmal style of "barely-dressed". One simply wasn't admitted to most bars, clubs, and restaurants without jacket & tie -- couldn't even sit in a Hotel Lobby unless "properly attired". American have been dressing like Slobs for a while now, so almost everyone has the idea that "Dress Casual" equals "Dress Sloppy".

How very true. I can't wait to start clinic (I go to a Chiropractic school) and wear clinic attire everyday (a suit)! I love dressing nice. Ever notice how people seem to act differently when properly dressed?

Think about it this way, I picked up a cheap felt cowboy hat a couple of years ago to just really abuse on my own adventures. It only cost me $40 bucks on sale. I think it was originally $60. And cowboy hats aren't even THAT popular anymore. I'm sure you could pick up am everyday fedora back then for 50 bucks or so.

One acts differently and one is TREATED differently. Think about how one's dress from casual to formal may have affected any given situation.

YARVTON wrote:One acts differently and one is TREATED differently. Think about how one's dress from casual to formal may have affected any given situation.

How very true :!: