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Finished my first bullwhip
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:44 pm
by stealthboy
A while ago I posted an image of the stockwhip I made following Ron Edwards' plans, and so after that I decided to jump in head-first and make a kangaroo bullwhip. With much assistance from the expert knowledge of folks here on the board (especially Louie), I finished my 12-plait 9-foot KotCS-style whip (two bolsters, two 4-plait bellies, 12-plait overlay).
Finished just in time for the KotCS premiere! I think it came out pretty well for my first bullwhip. Any feedback is greatly appreciated! It was a fun experience and was not easy; I have a lot more respect for all you whipmakers out there. I have a natural roo hide to use for my next, which hopefully will be a 10-foot Raiders-style.
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:47 pm
by Texas Raider
WOW! Looks good, Stealthboy! Great job on the first one!
TR
hat
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:59 pm
by BendingOak
Great job on that whip.

How many stk whips have you made before you made this whip?
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:07 pm
by rjallen70
Very nice!
Keep up the good work.
Ron
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:14 pm
by thefish
Lemme get this straight.....
That's your FIRST bullwhip?
Seriously?
You did a whole 9 foot in 12 plait on your first bullwhip?
And it came out looking THAT good?
Jeez!
You, Lauren (Lauren,) and Nick, (Nammann)...You guys just make me sick!!!!
;-)
Seriously, great job...
For my more critical opinion, it looks like there's a couple of small errors in the overlay, but for the most part the seams look quite straight, (looks like it might be beveling, or lack of. Now that's not a problem! It's purely visual. Jacka bevels the heck out of his whips. Morgan, not so much. Rugged Jacka? Best of both worlds.)
I don't see any of the bizarre humps and kinks in the way the thong rolls that I see in a lot of folks earlier bullwhips. That to me indicates that it rolls out straight.
The knots look really good from here, as does the checkerboard pattern, and that seems to be two places that I also instantly look to get an idea of the quality of the whip, (for some reason, knots seem one of the toughest things to nail.)
There's my feedback! All in all, great work! I'd proudly wear it on my belt, (and I'm picky.)
-Dan
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:31 pm
by Thousand Truths
Very nice man, very nice!

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:39 pm
by stealthboy
Wow, thanks guys! Yeah, it's my first bullwhip, and I only did the one stock whip before it. I'm just such a perfectionist that it took me a while to get started and I made sure to take my time. There are indeed some errors in the plaiting that stand out to me since I cut all the strands by hand (the thumbnail technique) sometimes I would deviate by half a mm or so. But I was learning and I think I'm getting the hang of it. Yeah, the beveling was interesting, and I know it was not as consistent as it should be - I tried to stay at about a 45-degree angle, but it went all over sometimes.
Honestly, Louie was amazing in the assistance and motivation he provided. I felt like I could learn the most from him because he just got started a couple years ago. His blog was fantastic as a resource, along with his whipmaking ebook. Big thanks to him.
I appreciate the kind comments, and I'll keep you updated with my next project!
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:20 pm
by Canuck Digger
Man! My first few whips didn't look ANYTHING like that! Wow! Good on ya and keep at it, you're off to a promissing start!
Cheers,
Franco
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:42 pm
by ST
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:03 am
by Cracker
SUPER JOB stealthboy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:42 am
by Arthur Dent
Good looking whip. I can't believe it is your first bullwhip, even my second and third look more like a sausage with a fall attached to the end. Good job.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:25 am
by Canyon
Steathboy, that is your first attempt? Wow! I'm amazed!
Fantastic work!

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:21 am
by kooniu
first whip

: WOW
It is prettiest than my last

Re: Finished my first bullwhip
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:26 pm
by IndyMo
stealthboy wrote:A while ago I posted an image of the stockwhip I made following Ron Edwards' plans, and so after that I decided to jump in head-first and make a kangaroo bullwhip. With much assistance from the expert knowledge of folks here on the board (especially Louie), I finished my 12-plait 9-foot KotCS-style whip (two bolsters, two 4-plait bellies, 12-plait overlay).
Finished just in time for the KotCS premiere! I think it came out pretty well for my first bullwhip. Any feedback is greatly appreciated! It was a fun experience and was not easy; I have a lot more respect for all you whipmakers out there. I have a natural roo hide to use for my next, which hopefully will be a 10-foot Raiders-style.
I have to say this could pass as any number of famous whip makers whips. Very professional and the detail is amazing. You can tell you are a perfectionist. Keep up the good work.
Mike
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:39 am
by LemonLauren
Hey, nice work, particularly for a first bullwhip! Like Dan, I can find a couple of little issues with the overlay strands, and maybe something with the wristloop too (can't see it too well though). But overall you've got some really great stuff going on here. What plait number is that wristloop? Also, why so many knots on the fall hitch? (not that that's a bad thing - I'm just curious). BTW, your checkerboard handle looks particularly nice - very straight and even. Rock on!

)
Lauren Wickline
www.midwestwhips.com
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:54 am
by stealthboy
LemonLauren wrote:Hey, nice work, particularly for a first bullwhip! Like Dan, I can find a couple of little issues with the overlay strands, and maybe something with the wristloop too (can't see it too well though). But overall you've got some really great stuff going on here. What plait number is that wristloop? Also, why so many knots on the fall hitch? (not that that's a bad thing - I'm just curious). BTW, your checkerboard handle looks particularly nice - very straight and even. Rock on!

)
The wristloop is something that was made with the last little bit of hide, so unfortunately I was curving around way too much because I was down to a piece just a few inches across! It's a four-plait flat braid wristloop, and something I need to do better in the future.
As for why so many knots in the fall hitch, I has some of the strands from my second belly that I left to use as a small core in the last few feet of the whip, so I just tied those strands around the fall hitch, too. I guess that's not what you're supposed to do, but I like the look of a longer fall hitch.
Thanks for the comments about the checkerboard! And thanks to everyone else for the kind words; that certainly keeps me motivated to start my next one.
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 9:40 pm
by nammann
thefish wrote:Lemme get this straight.....
That's your FIRST bullwhip?
Seriously?
You did a whole 9 foot in 12 plait on your first bullwhip?
And it came out looking THAT good?
Jeez!
You, Lauren (Lauren,) and Nick, (Nammann)...You guys just make me sick!!!!
;-)
Seriously, great job...
For my more critical opinion, it looks like there's a couple of small errors in the overlay, but for the most part the seams look quite straight, (looks like it might be beveling, or lack of. Now that's not a problem! It's purely visual. Jacka bevels the heck out of his whips. Morgan, not so much. Rugged Jacka? Best of both worlds.)
I don't see any of the bizarre humps and kinks in the way the thong rolls that I see in a lot of folks earlier bullwhips. That to me indicates that it rolls out straight.
The knots look really good from here, as does the checkerboard pattern, and that seems to be two places that I also instantly look to get an idea of the quality of the whip, (for some reason, knots seem one of the toughest things to nail.)
There's my feedback! All in all, great work! I'd proudly wear it on my belt, (and I'm picky.)
-Dan
To be honest with you Dan I didn't even know I had it in me. I must of had this craft in a past life? Of course my Grandfather use to braid but not whips but I never sat and watched so maybe it is passed down from generations or something. I am just glad I still have all my fingers, wheeew, Ive had some REALLY close calls!!

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:07 pm
by louiefoxx
I'm glad I could help you out with that bullwhip! It's amazing for a first attempt. It was in my 20th or so bullwhip before they started looking like they should and they were in the 50th or so bullwhip before I started liking how they handled. GOOD JOB!
Now that you've made one, the fun part starts and that's playing around with how you make the interal parts of the bullwhip (materials/lengths/etc) to make a bullwhip YOU like!
Louie
http://www.bullwhips.org
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:32 pm
by rebelgtp
wow that is a BEAUTIFUL whip! especially for a first bullwhip! I can't wait to see what you start to do in the future, we may have a new whip maker available to us.
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:39 pm
by Indiana Strones
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:28 pm
by stealthboy
Hey guys, an update. I just finished my second bullwhip, which I tried to model after a Raiders. This one is a 9-foot natural roo hide 12-plait bullwhip. Two 4-plait roo bellies, two kip bolsters. It was great having a holiday weekend with some extra free time to finish this. I kept track of the time it took to make this, and it came in just over 13 hours. This pic is without the shellac, but everything else is done:
Thanks in advance for any critiques!
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:03 pm
by Vegeta
I think we have a whip making protigy on our hands!!!
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:46 pm
by myamoebafriend
Nice! Keep it up!
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:44 am
by Weston
Looks like you have a talent for this. Keep it up!
Weston
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:56 pm
by louiefoxx
bump to the wrist loop up to a 6 plait and cut them skinny for a more "Morgan" looking wris loop.
Looks fanstastic for your 2nd whip! Here's my 2nd one (about 2 years ago):
I tried to make the one in Ron Edwards book, but he doesn't tell you to stop plaiting the bellies before the end of the bullwhip!!
One tip that I think Paul Nolan gave me was to take a lot of pictures of every bullwhip you make.
Good Job!
Louie
http://www.bullwhips.org