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quick pocket question
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:38 am
by Holt
Hi.does anybody know why Peter decided to make the pockets bigger and the standard cut?
my Rotla 80's cut has much smaller pockets..
I am not such a jacket expert(yet
) but I guess the smaller pockets are SA right?...were does the larger pockets come from??
hope somebody can clear this out for me
thanks
Holt
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:00 am
by rebelgtp
well if i remember right the jacket pocket size does change between movies so it could have carried over from that. or it could be a matter of making them more functional or sized more to proportion with the jacket. i never really liked the smaller pockets that well, i like to actually be able to have room to stick stuff in my pockets. not to say that i like the look of some of the HUGE pockets some of the jackets have got, don't need a pocket i can stash the entire ark in
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:34 am
by Holt
really!?the pocket size change in raieders?
I never noticed that before.
can someone alse confirm this?
and thanks for your reply
best
Holt
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:25 am
by PLATON
There were complains by goalkeepers who couldn't fit their hands into the pockets.
joking
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:29 am
by PLATON
really!?the pocket size change in raieders?
I never noticed that before.
can someone alse confirm this?
and thanks for your reply
If you notice the pocket before he enters the temple, it's almost square.
If you watch the 'making of' at the Raven Bar you will notice they are rectangular (then again it maybe the different film/camera they are using).
Also, the stitching of the pocket flap at the temple and wing fight scene is different...
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:32 am
by Holt
thank you.I will have a look
best
Holt
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:33 am
by coronado3
The main thing is to have the pockets in proportion to the jacket!
If you wear a 38 short, the pockets that would look good on a 48 long will be way too big...
C3
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:47 pm
by Indiana Johnson
The pockets were made bigger for LC, to fit the grail diary. I seem to recall info on this forum a while back stating the larger LC pockets were pretty standard for all jackets Wested was making at the time. A number of people began asking for smaller pockets on their ROTLA jackets, myself included, and got them. I believe the smaller pockets are now standard on the 80's cut and on the special offer Raiders jacket.
Disclaimer: All information in the above post is from my personal (sometimes shaky) recollection from reading this forum the last few years
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:21 pm
by PLATON
The pockets were made bigger for LC, to fit the grail diary.
And I seem to recall that the inside pocket was larger for that purpose.
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:23 pm
by St. Dumas
And of course Indy kept the diary in his inside pocket.
SD
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:40 pm
by Indy Magnoli
St. Dumas wrote:And of course Indy kept the diary in his inside pocket.
I keep hearing this line in regards to the jacket pocket sizes... but the diary is clearly shown being removed from his outer pocket in Berlin.
Kind regards,
Magnoli
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:49 pm
by PLATON
Since you make diaries Magnoli you know that the diary can fit in the Raiders jacket pocket as well. LC did not have larger pockets. Only larger pocket flaps.
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:52 pm
by Michaelson
PLATON wrote:. LC did not have larger pockets. Only larger pocket flaps.
Not according to Peter Botwright.
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:56 pm
by St. Dumas
Could be very well be, Magnoli. I thought I'd watched for that before and only remember when Indy removed it at gunpoint. I'll gladly concede the point and the whole larger pocket matter would make sense.
I don't have the DVD handy right now, but are you talking about when he's on the Zeppelin? Because he was wearing the Nazi uniform at the book burning and the overcoat at the airport.
SD
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:01 pm
by PLATON
PLATON wrote:
. LC did not have larger pockets. Only larger pocket flaps.
Not according to Peter Botwright.
Regards! Michaelson
You asked for it.
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:08 pm
by PLATON
Maybe you need another one for comparison
Westeds before the pocket got bigger.
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:11 pm
by Indy Magnoli
Doh! It was in Brunwald Castle...
The diary can definitely fit into an LC pocket. Whether it can fit into a Raiders pocket... I think they'd be a little too small.
Kind regards,
Magnoli
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:18 pm
by Michaelson
PLATON wrote:PLATON wrote:
. LC did not have larger pockets. Only larger pocket flaps.
Not according to Peter Botwright.
Regards! Michaelson
You asked for it.
Uh, ok.
Well, based on this photo, hand puppets will fit in the Wested LC jacket pockets too.....is that your point?
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:22 pm
by Kt Templar
Filmwise, I seem to remember reading somewhere that there was (at least) one jacket with a bigger pocket for the close up shot, maybe this is the one Peter recalls. But of course there were various sizes of diary too.
The pockets were made bigger on jackets that people ordered over the years because people with larger hands were wanting to use the handwarmers without getting stuck or tearing them.
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:19 pm
by St. Dumas
Magnoli, I think I had it reversed. I think Ilsa pulled the diary out of the outside pocket, which is why we all wondered why the inside pocket was enlarged. My bad.
SD
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:56 pm
by CM
The LC jacket appears to have a much larger pocket flap. But the pocket does not appear to be larger than other jacket's pockets. I'd love for Peter to issue his LC standard with the right pockets. While other SA details don't interest me much, it's those pockets that really stick out to me. If those flaps were just 2 cm's broader, he'd be a lot closer. When I got my LC jacket and saw those inadequate pockets and then looked at my certificate of authenticity, I became a little sad. It's a good goatskin jacket but it isn't just like the movie one as advertised.
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:03 pm
by Holt
CM wrote: When I got my LC jacket and saw those inadequate pockets and then looked at my certificate of authenticity, I became a little sad. It's a good goatskin jacket but it isn't just like the movie one as advertised.
that's too bad man...yes I know I have heard that the wected LC is not as good and close as they want it too be..
personally my favorite jacket is the LC and that's why I got it from Magnoli with HIGH details on it.I have seen pictures of my jacket and the pockets Magnoli did are SPOT on!!and the right colar and straps.
unfortunately I am still whaitng on it
best
Holt
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:13 pm
by Kokopelli
PLATON wrote:Maybe you need another one for comparison
Westeds before the pocket got bigger.
Platon...what hide is that one on the left? It is BEAUTIFUL!!
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:15 pm
by Holt
that is probably the worn look cow
best
Holt
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:31 pm
by CM
Indiana Holt wrote:CM wrote: When I got my LC jacket and saw those inadequate pockets and then looked at my certificate of authenticity, I became a little sad. It's a good goatskin jacket but it isn't just like the movie one as advertised.
that's too bad man...yes I know I have heard that the wected LC is not as good and close as they want it too be..
personally my favorite jacket is the LC and that's why I got it from Magnoli with HIGH details on it.I have seen pictures of my jacket and the pockets Magnoli did are SPOT on!!and the right colar and straps.
unfortunately I am still whaitng on it :cry:
best
Holt
Look forward to seeing your Magnoli jacket. Let us know about stitching and general quality too.
Cheers
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:33 pm
by Holt
will do
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:29 am
by PLATON
Platon...what hide is that one on the left? It is BEAUTIFUL!!
Ask _.