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Is the Federation the wrong hat for me or did I just do a horiable job on the bash?



Thanks for your input.
Phil

Phil, the hat looks too big to me.

Regards! Michaelson

On the one hand too big, on the other hand I think you should also try to bash the sides of the brim, the sides should be more curved, if you know what I mean

The first time you put it on it's a shock. Wear it around, look in different mirrors, you'll quickly become acustom to it. -Try lowering the back just a little bit, that may help, and curl the sides of the brim. Front-view looks great on the bash. I for one cannot pull off the center-dent bash, I do a C-Crown.
Oh, and the color looks FABULOUS! I am sooooo jealous. -And to think, yours was $60 cheaper than my Deluxe that I hate the color of!

Wear it proudly!

Citron, it'd be nice if you didn't use every thread with the word "Federation" in it as a place to gripe about your individual hat. It's getting a bit old.

Nobody; My advice would be to turn the back brim up, or work in a curl, and try to lower the back of the crown slightly (not too much). Then, just give yourself time to get used to it. Feds tend to look different then you imagine on your own noggin, plus, they gain character after a few good wearings.

Just keep working on it. I think that's part of the fun. If you follow some of the above suggestions it's going to be great!
My Federation looked allot like yours after the first bash attempt. Now it's great (IMHO).

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2397/231 ... b9.jpg?v=0
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2314/224 ... dd.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3076/231 ... 05.jpg?v=0

Tron

binkmeisterRick wrote:Citron, it'd be nice if you didn't use every thread with the word "Federation" in it as a place to gripe about your individual hat. It's getting a bit old.

...Fine then -I'll shut up about my Federation Deluxe's horrendous color!!

Looks good, Nobody. Like the others said: add some shape to the brim.
Nice hat. Can't wait until mine shows up!

I ended up doing a cross between a C bash and the center dent in the rear of the hat, mainly because with a deep center dent in rear it makes the front look more tapered, not enough hat crown to go around I guess. Mine's a very rounded, fairly shallow center dent in the rear. Doesn't look great from side view but ends up looking great in front.

I don't know if it's screen accurate, but I found on my Federation that you can also push in the sides of the lower crown and this will make it look like there is a slight bulge on top and reduce any tapered appearance a little.

Here's a link that shows a Federation from side view, you can see how the crown is slightly darker just above the bow in the rear, that's where I pushed it in a bit for the bulge effect.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n237 ... ndyht3.jpg

citRon wrote:

binkmeisterRick wrote:Citron, it'd be nice if you didn't use every thread with the word "Federation" in it as a place to gripe about your individual hat. It's getting a bit old.

...Fine then -I'll shut up about my Federation Deluxe's horrendous color!!

haha

Michaelson wrote:Phil, the hat looks too big to me.

Regards! Michaelson

yeah I have to agree it does look a bit on the large side on him especially in the side shot. the bash looks good however there is a bit of taper but that isn't uncommon in a federation.

Nobody, you have a roundish head. Turning your hat to the right a half to one inch, maybe more (requires a repositioning of the front pinch) will take taper out of the sides and put some needed taper in the front and back. Plus, it will then be front pinched off center like the Raiders hat.

WOW,
great fed all i think you need to do is lower the centre dent at the back a little bit.

is that a deluxe or a standard?

It's a Standard Federation

wow!
thanks the colour is great.

There's too much reverse taper going on from the side view, and that explains why the front view is tapered and possibly why the hat looks too big. Lessen how deep the the crease goes so that you get a more even look on the front and side. Don't resist the Federation's height!

Well I tuned the bash using some suggestions from you guys, thanks.
I think that it looks alot better, let me know what you think

Before

After


Before

After


Thanks everyone

Now THAT looks right to me! It was the bash rather than a size issue.

WELL done!!

Regards! Michaelson

Especially from the side. Welcome home, old boy.

Looks great!

Tron

Looks good, nice improvements.

That did the trick. The side view is great.

That does look much better! Could we get a pic of the top?

Congrats!
Dean

I'm actually thinking more turn would be better still. I know that may seem odd at first, but take a look at pics of the Raiders hat and you'll see that's where Indy's bow shows a lot more of itself than most bows would on a front view. This should presumably lessen the taper on the front view too. It also looks like the non-bow side's dent goes a little too back as a result of the first turning. Resetting the dents so that they don't indent as far may also help reduce some of the taper.

That doesn't even look like the same hat!
Well done!
Once you get it just right...don't forget to add it to the Show us your federations thread!
R

I tried the turn first but I just couldn't get the brim to look straight. I ended up using a teardrop bash.

I'm not sure if I understood you correctly, but the brim is not supposed to look streaight with the turn; that's the whole point of it. The brim is supposed to warp like it does in many scenes from "Raiders." I may not have understood exactly what you meant, however, and your hat does look excellent the way it is-- certainly much better than before.

Jack

That's a good-looking hat. I think those are the first pics I've seen of a standard Federation...

..which leads me to wonder...is the Standard Federation the same as the Akubra Adventurer (from David Morgan)?

I have an Adventurer that looks exactly like Nobody's Fed...

It looks great but the last pic won't work for me

eazybox wrote:I'm not sure if I understood you correctly, but the brim is not supposed to look streaight with the turn; that's the whole point of it. The brim is supposed to warp like it does in many scenes from "Raiders." I may not have understood exactly what you meant, however, and your hat does look excellent the way it is-- certainly much better than before.

Jack

I didn't realize that the brim warped as much as it does with the turn, so my attempt at the turn was pretty close to accurate. I might keep it like this for a while and later go for the turn.

Thanks for the kind words everyone.

Phil

Now that is a goodlooking hat Nobody! What a difference a little tweaking makes, the hat now looks like it was made for you.

Looks so good, I am bookmarking this thread so I can use your pics as guide when I bash my Fed.

The last pic you posted looks weird. The hat is too high up on the back of your head. It looks like you're wearing it like an old army BDU hat.

Vegeta wrote:The last pic you posted looks weird. The hat is too high up on the back of your head. It looks like you're wearing it like an old army BDU hat.

Drop and give me 20!