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How does one go about getting one of these?
I'm talking about the shirt worn in a picture by agent5.


I've been searching the high mountains for this shirt because I dont want to wear the redundant red&yellow logo on a shirt, but rather show my appreciation for Raiders as an individual movie, unsurpassed.

If anyone has any leads, that would be great.
I have been working on making the logo myself using photoshop, but I can't get the main font right, because it's some ancient version of the Jenson font family, as it's pretty assymetrical. I also have a font called "Adobe Song STD" and it kinda looks like it too, apart from Jenson is has straighter sides like the logo itself but it lacks the curved sides and the extra curve on the tip of the A.

One of these? (Keep your eyes to the left!)



PM sent.

By the way - the main font is Open Capitals by Jan van Kimpen, and the subtitle is called Eurostile. You can find them online and use big samples (invert the colors to be black on white) and make a logo that way, if you don't want to buy them.

Here's a quick one I made that way (but note that I didn't make my shirt).



Shane

Oh my god McFly, that's a perfect fontmatch! I've been searching for that for years!

Thank you! Thank you!

IndyMcFly wrote:

One of these? (Keep your eyes to the left!)

Yeah, right.

I love that shirt (on the left).

I love them too... erm... I mean "it" ... on the left... on the left... Focus! Focus!

Shane

I've seen that museum before in the backround, where was that taken?

######! Sometimes it´s pretty difficult just to focus the left side

Where did you find that font McFly? Can i download it?

IndyMcFly wrote:One of these? (Keep your eyes to the left!)



PM sent.

By the way - the main font is Open Capitals by Jan van Kimpen, and the subtitle is called Eurostile. You can find them online and use big samples (invert the colors to be black on white) and make a logo that way, if you don't want to buy them.

Here's a quick one I made that way (but note that I didn't make my shirt).



Shane

Why Shane, Why. She's soooo much better looking than you. giggity.

Yeah, but her hat isn't SA (in case some of you hadn't noticed, she is wearing a hat).

But I sure could see her on an Adventurebilt poster! How did that old English Leather slogan go again...
"Adventurebilt, or nothing at all"

McFly's in that picture? I don't see him.

Jess - lemme tell ya... I have a hard time finding myself in that picture too, sometimes.

IndyFan89 - you can probably find it if you do a search. I know it's on here somewhere. Otherwise I could look for it when I get home from work.

Shane

WOW...she even makes the hat she's wearin look good Oh...i was supposed to say somthin bout shirts wasn't I???

I did a search and didn't come up with anything.

Found it!

Here's the thread:
viewtopic.php?t=22490&highlight=Jan+van ... +Eurostyle

Just a couple posts down you'll see some links and stuff.

Shane

PM sent.

Homer Simpson - "Does she come with the movie?"

EDIT - What are the circumstances regarding the discovery of the font? I always thought it was a mystery, so the fact that it's been found is pretty darn cool.

Hmm, I should probably make a vector version of the text someday. If anybody has some HD or high res screencaps of the text posting them would be most appreciated.

Here's the first version I made:

http://users.evtek.fi/~villerep/raiders ... s_logo.eps

And a rasterized PNG version:

http://users.evtek.fi/~villerep/raiders ... s_logo.png

Any ideas for improvement would be most appreciated.

I'd say it's spot on. I'm not 100% sure, as it might only be an optical illusion, but the serifs of the Rs seem to be a bit more curved upwards on the title screen.

Nevertheless, great work man!

Yeah that's where I'll need the HD screencaps (agent5?) to make sure if they are supposed to curve up or not. Also most of the serifs are a tad too long, I'll need to shorten them a bit.

New versions:

http://users.evtek.fi/~villerep/raiders ... _logo1.eps

http://users.evtek.fi/~villerep/raiders ... _logo1.png

Hey VP, I'll hook you up with a HD logo later today.

Thanks, looking forward to it.

n'joy

Yeah so to me, it looks as if the serifs were bent more heavily on the Rs (upwards) and slightly bowed on the serifs below.

I'm actually totally fascinated at the spacing between the letters. It's surprisingly irregular.

And the Eurostile seems to be rounder than the preloaded one.

I just checked with my copy of OpenKapitalen. it's interesting because itseems to be the same font but in bold or something. the open part of the capitals is pretty consistent with the logo, nothing a bit of stretching vertically wouldn't fix, but the capitals themselves are too thin. Maybe they doubled them over. Oh and OpenKapitalen's serifs are way too straight. At least on the bottom.

mufflowne wrote:Yeah so to me, it looks as if the serifs were bent more heavily on the Rs (upwards) and slightly bowed on the serifs below.

I'm actually totally fascinated at the spacing between the letters. It's surprisingly irregular.

And the Eurostile seems to be rounder than the preloaded one.

I just checked with my copy of OpenKapitalen. it's interesting because itseems to be the same font but in bold or something. the open part of the capitals is pretty consistent with the logo, nothing a bit of stretching vertically wouldn't fix, but the capitals themselves are too thin. Maybe they doubled them over. Oh and OpenKapitalen's serifs are way too straight. At least on the bottom.

What is interesting to me is that the text on Raiders was probably originated on a photosetter and then recomposited back over the neg. Some rounding off and blurring would be expected.

The cut on the photosetter may be slightly different too.

Given the time period, the logo was probably hand-drawn, which would explain any inconsistencies with the typeface it was based on. Remember, computers weren't used for titling graphics during the period when Raiders was produced.

*EDIT* And what KT said.

Bemo wrote:But I sure could see her on an Adventurebilt poster! How did that old English Leather slogan go again...
"Adventurebilt, or nothing at all"

"uunngggg...man with hat have pretty lady. I buy hat, I get pretty lady, too. Me want hat!!"

for whatever it's worth... I found this on my hardrive:

http://www.rabittooth.com/title2.bmp

I have one of the shirts from that run, and I think this graphic had something to do with it's creation, but I'm not sure. Agent5 will remember more obviously.

-Rabittooth

I mean this is really all about nitpicking at the logo. ####, the whole forum is about nitpicking.
But

Given the time period, the logo was probably hand-drawn, which would explain any inconsistencies with the typeface it was based on. Remember, computers weren't used for titling graphics during the period when Raiders was produced.

*EDIT* And what KT said.

Yeah, but when you see the opening credits in HD, you'll see that the inconsistencies are consistent. They're actually amazing, because they're subtle things that would be considered type-setting errors nowadays. I love them to death though, they even give the title and the opening credits character, just like the #### hat.
Although, I don't really think they were hand-drawn. They probably had a template for each letter.

I can't stop drooling.

I made one with Adobe Premiere Titler:



The Font:
Trajan Pro for "RAIDERS"
Square 721 BT For "OF THE LOST ARK"

Here is the logo from the movie to compare:



-EDIT-

The aspect ratio on mine is off becaus of my Editing System.

So, Back to the question,where did those black "raiders" shirts we're seeing come from? They are very cool. I'm sure they'd sell well among COW. :idea:

They were made by an enterprising individual who made them available to several folks a few years back that apparently wishes to remain anonomous.

And yes, I own one too.

Regards! Michaelson

As do I and they are VERY nice. Wore it to the QM Summit a few years back.

See if you can find me!



Regards, Dr. J

P.S. Thanks to Dalexs for the photo.

You're the guy in the hat.

Those ones are very nice looking - the logo is big and bright. My shirt has a little smaller logo, and it's definitely not as bright as those ones.

Shane

It's nice to see there are others out there who love the look of this logo as much as I do. IMHO, it's much more edgy and suggestive of adventure in exciting, undiscovered locations than the in-your-face, red and yellow comic book letters of later Indy movies.

Anyone else notice how the word "RAIDERS" tends to change shape and lose meaning the longer you stare at it ... ? It's quite hypnotic ...

I actually don't like the red & yellow Indiana Jones logo at all. It's too comic-booky, while the Raiders logo actually feels like it came off an adventure novel or something. (Yeah, i know, raiders of the something else book)

Besides, they use that red&yellow type for everything that has anything even remotely to do with any kind of adventure at all. Which just makes me despise it.

Agreed. I think the red and yellow letters were introduced to help Indy appeal to a much younger audience. They certainly look at home on kids' lunchboxes.

New versions:

http://users.evtek.fi/~villerep/raiders ... _logo2.eps

http://users.evtek.fi/~villerep/raiders ... _logo2.png

And a crummy animation showing the differences between the reference and mine (O stands for Original and the one that says VP is mine):



The main differences are in the Eurostile text. The differences in the RAIDERS part are much subtler in reality than in the animation.

I like the original version much much more! 8-[

Me too.

Michaelson wrote:They were made by an enterprising individual who made them available to several folks a few years back that apparently wishes to remain anonomous.

And yes, I own one too.

Regards! Michaelson

Dear Anonymous, Raiders of the Lost Ark t-shirt wanted. Inquire within..............

VP, the last version you made RULES!

Thanks. I still need to clean up the subtitle but otherwise I think it's as good as I'm going to get ATM.

here's a little one i made:






Rio

Someone who is a member over at the RPF should seek ssdesigner
Top notch shirts...I used to be a member over there a long time ago, in a galaxy far away. Registration has been closed for some time though.
R

Someone needs to start making these shirts man, cause I want one. I guess I could just buy a shirt press, that presses the image onto the shirt. I know my professor in college she bought one, but I am not sure if she still has it or not. I think they are like a couple hundred dollars. I mean if you think about it, you buy the press and you sell the shirts for 10-15 bucks, you could probably easily make your money back if there was enough interested people in buying a shirt Well at least the idea is thrown out there. If anyone is making any of these shirts let me know.

IndianaChris

I will look into making or having some of these made up by a friend. My only question is, would it be legal to use the raiders name and sell it on a shirt.