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Fedora, amateur hatter...

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 1:24 am
by Fedora
I finally received that block that I bought sight unseen from e-bay for 22.00. I am so lucky, because it is exactly the shape that I was looking for. It's a very flat block on the top of the crown, unlike most hats that we buy. It is very old, but in great condition. As we speak, I have on old Fed sitting on the thing, and it is a sight to behold. This Fed was my work hat for a year and it was filthy, tapered badly, and looked like @#$% from the abuse. After speaking with Graham at Optimo, I had gleaned the process of reblocking from him and basically used what he told me on this hat. It has turned out better than I could have imagined. The first thing that I did was remove the ribbon, the liner, and the sweatband. I threw the ribbon and liner away, but kept the sweatband. I then threw the hat into the washer with some liquid Woolite and run it thru a wash and rinse cycle. I gotta say that when I pulled this thing out of the washer, I panicked. It looked nothing like a hat. My first thought was, well, I have ruined it. But at least it is clean. I made a mental note, that the next time I must mark the front in some way so I can keep it as the front since the dimensional cut only looks good if the narrow part is on the sides of the hat. I took this dishrag like piece of felt and slipped it over the hat block. Tugging and pushing I stretched it tight over the block and then the miracle occured. It was a hat once again, and a beautiful one at that. And it was so clean and new looking. I am gonna let it dry on the block, iron the brim out, attach the sweatband, new liner, and new ribbon and save 50.00 in the process. I can't wait to see how it bashes with the flat topped block. Stay tuned. Fedora

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 1:52 am
by schwammy
In view of your imminent (or recent?) retirement, Fedora, do I sense a second career looming on the horizon?

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 8:16 am
by Marc
That's how hatter recommend to clean hats?! :shock:

Anyway, since you already had it in the washer, why not dye it?
- I re-colored my old official fur felt Indy that way and it worked quite fine.

Good look on your further work and as always: Pics would be nice :wink:

Regards,
Marc

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 11:01 am
by Fedora
No retirement yet, but I am getting very close. :wink: I am going to do the hatter thing on a limited basis for a few online friends. Hobby only. On the cleaning, he told me that he run my Deluxes through a wash, and the wash used doesn't remove stiffener. I just put 2 and 2 together, and came up with 5, and threw it in a washer. The experiment worked, and grandly. But, the hat now has the pliability of an Optimo, which makes me glad that I have a gallon of stiffener. For the brim only. This is a learning process, and a heck of alot of fun on cold blustery days. Stay tuned for the evaluation of this block being suitable for the Raiders fedora. I figure this will put to rest(at least for me) the way the Raiders block was shaped. Fedora

Block evaluation....

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 1:32 pm
by Fedora
I know this has been stated before by Optimo via fedoralover. I will restate it here, and this is from hands on experience. The flat top crown IS NOT the proper shape to use. I just found it out. My block is really flat on top, and this allows the hat to taper when bashed. How can it not? I have another block on its way to me, and this block is not flat on top. It breaks at the 5 inch mark, and then rounds up to 5 3/4. This one is what I am after, as it will allow the hat to bash on the top without pulling the sides in. I am gonna modify my existing block with wood putty to get the top the correct shape, and hopefully I will have a very accurate Raiders block using this first one. That the original block was 6 inches now makes good sense to me, since much of this extra height is pushed into the top of the hat. Fedora

Re: Fedora, amateur hatter...

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 9:35 am
by Pyroxene
Fedora wrote:I made a mental note, that the next time I must mark the front in some way so I can keep it as the front since the dimensional cut only looks good if the narrow part is on the sides of the hat.
Ha! I can relate so much! I had the exact same thing happen to me. I was measuring for a while to figure out which side was which.


Cheers,
Pyro.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 11:25 pm
by JohnNdy
Fedora, thanks for all this info! I have been working on a hat block made out of plaster and as of now I have a perfect cylinder of plaster 6 inches tall although I have yet to round the top out...I need to sand it down. I too am trying to reblock my deluxe, as it has picked up a bit of a taper.

-John

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:04 pm
by alanseijas
WOW... Over 5 years ago, and look at him now. Making hats for a movie that was not even thought of back then.

BTW congrats :clap: !

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:06 pm
by Michaelson
Let alone the fact Marc, the other half of the equation, was just happy to have redyed his Dorfman successfully!!! :lol:

Times do change, don't they?

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:40 pm
by Dutch_jones
Michaelson wrote:Let alone the fact Marc, the other half of the equation, was just happy to have redyed his Dorfman successfully!!! :lol:

Times do change, don't they?

Regards! Michaelson
LOL!!! this had me spitting toothpaste at the screen :lol:

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:45 pm
by Fedora
Let alone the fact Marc, the other half of the equation, was just happy to have redyed his Dorfman successfully!!!

Times do change, don't they?
:shock: :lol: Gosh, I am speechless. I forget that my history is right here on COW. How appropiate that Marc chimed in!! I was playing with felt at the same time as he was. I had to laugh at myself though. Graham had told me apparently that he put a hat through the wash, and I assumed he meant a washing machine!! Wrong!! Boy, I sure was dumb then. :lol: Which reminds me, there are NO dumb questions. :lol: Thanks for bringing this post up to the top. I have fond memories of those times. I mean, I really knew absolutely very little about working on hats back then. I was making it up as I went along.....and learning.

If someone would have told me we would be making the Indy 4 hats, I would have thought them to be nuts! Once we started making and selling these things, it was a distant, impossible dream. But the dream was realized. Both Marc and I still have a hard time believing it. That's the truth. It seems like it happened to SOMEONE else. :D Fedora

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:51 pm
by Dr. Nebraska S.
It makes you wonder what adventures lie ahead in the next 5 years! :D

Congratulations on you and Marc making a dream come true. 8)

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:02 pm
by Michaelson
Fedora wrote: :shock: :lol: Gosh, I am speechless. I forget that my history is right here on COW. Fedora
Yep, old friend, all the skeletons are buried right here in these pages..... :lol: :wink:

Regards! Michaelson

Wash and wear!

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:09 pm
by Kilgour Trout
Hmmm....Washing machine, I tried this before but overcame the front back
problem by climbing into the washer with the hat still on my
Head.

I was a bit dizzy after the rinse cycle but at least the I was clean and
smelled like Woolite! \:D/

Remember kids...hat making is for Professionals!! =; :mrgreen:

:wink:
Kilgour Trout

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:15 pm
by Michaelson
You distressed your jacket at the same time, didn't you Kilgour? :-k

I TOLD you not to listen to Gater that day! :roll: :wink:

Regards! Michaelson

That was your Idea!

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:22 pm
by Kilgour Trout
Hey...wasn't that your idea? :-s
Or at least that's what I remember after the concussion!

The hard part was getting into the pillow case
and turning on the dryer for that softened goat
effect #-o

My wife says I'm definitely a softer Goat for the experience.

:rolling:

Kilgour

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:24 pm
by Michaelson
My idea? :? Oh, uh... :shock: .... :-

Regards! Michaelson

Speaking of Maple Syrup!

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:35 pm
by Kilgour Trout
Hey...Speaking of Concussions and Maple Syrup :shock: :-k

How's Your Maple Syrup supply Mark? I've got a line on some real quality stuff! Genuine Maple Syrup is my metaphysical way of coming for a visit.

You, Bink, Jess and Jerry send coffee, us Canuckleheads sit down to waffles and Good Maple Syrup.

Don't ask me to explain, It's a Canadian thing eh! =P~ :mrgreen:

Cheers
Kilgour

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:03 am
by Indiana Blooze
:clap: :notworthy: :clap: :notworthy: :clap: :notworthy:

Congrats and kudos to Steve and Marc!!!

Now for the rest of you scoundels........... :whip: