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This Raiders promo pic...

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Anyone know a good source to find all the pics from this promo session? It'd be a good source to study the jacket.

There's a little bit of Han Solo peeking out from under that fedora, huh? :lol:

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Wonder why he looks so much like Han. Less stubble and more hair :-k
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uh.... it's the same actor???

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Yeah, it's funny, I can always differentiate Indy, Han and Deckard very clearly. There's no blur. But for some reason, this looks as if Han Solo put on a fedora and leather jacket.... :D

Aside from the hair, Harrison's sideburns are also longer here too.
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Post by Pitfall Harry »

I thought some of the pics like this one were early promo shots taken before filming. So Ford probably didn't have his hair cut yet so it was still probably the way he wore it in SW.
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I agree - it looks like pre production screen tests to me.
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Post by ANZAC_1915 »

Well also the expression on his face (especially his eyes) matches one of the publicity stills from Star Wars.
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Post by Tennessee Smith »

I think another reason he looks so different is the fact that the guy is clean. Aside from a 5 0'clock shadow he isn't covered with the grime and sweat were use to seeing him with, that is a lot of what we see on screen.
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Yeah, I posted this one in the Indy IV section. It's pretty cool.

From the wall and the length of his hair (Agent 5? Care to confirm?) I'd say it's from the same shoot as the famous shot of Indy with his leg up and leaning forward with the whip in his hand. I don't have it handy, but it's usually sold as an 8x10 at conventions for autographs etc...and it's an iconic photo.

I love this shot. I just wish a higher res was available!
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Cassidy, since I have this special shot you describe, hanging above my desk here right now, I dare to compare the two. Hair seems similar, but the stubble is a little bit more obvious on "my" picture ... might be a question of lightning, 'though.

I think, another point concerning the picture above is, that Ford looks rather shy there ... and that is something I won't connect to Indy (well, at least the adventurer Indy, maybe not Prof. Jones).
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Jens wrote:Canyon, since I have this special shot you describe, hanging above my desk here right now, I dare to compare the two. Hair seems similar, but the stubble is a little bit more obvious on "my" picture ... might be a question of lightning, 'though.

I think, another point concerning the picture above is, that Ford looks rather shy there ... and that is something I won't connect to Indy (well, at least the adventurer Indy, maybe not Prof. Jones).
I dunno but I didnt see Canyon post in this thread?
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Dutch_jones wrote:
I dunno but I didnt see Canyon post in this thread?
Sorry, I answered two threads simultanously and got that mixed up. Just corrected it. Sorry again, no offense meant. :oops:
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He looks so young... but he wasn't THAT young—wasn't he about 37-38? Not exactly mid-20s. He must have looked like a baby then. Perhaps there's hope for me yet...

As to him looking like Han Solo, it's an expression he pulls, I think, where he widens his eyes a bit. He looks worried, actually.
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He seems a bit heavier, and those sideburns definitely change his look. He's also a pale, compared to what he looked like in Raiders.
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He looks the same as he does in that short haired Empire strikes back promo photo.

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Post by FloatinJoe »

It's weird, before I even read your text, I was thinking Han Solo in Indy Gear. Maybe it is the sideburns, but I think it is the way his eyes are looking at us.

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That's what I picture indy looked like in 1930 or so.
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mufflowne wrote:That's what I picture indy looked like in 1930 or so.
Hm........makes sense, given the way Flannery looked in the YIJ TV series.
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Post by Odo »

Well, some of you may disagree, but in fact it reminds me of the way Fedora was looking Indy when he escaped from the magic wagon in last crusade.
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Magic wagon? :shock:
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Post by Odo »

"Magic Caboose".
I meant it reminded me more of this image of Fedora than even to Indy himself , maybe cause of the longer hair.

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I knew what you meant. Just kidding with ya! :D

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Post by Rundquist »

You guys are gay. Just kidding, though I’m surprised there haven’t been any comments about being lost in his eyes. :oops:





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There's nothing wrong with being gay. I have two close friends that are gay. I just thought that it was funny that so many of you guys are so googely-eyed over Ford. :wink:
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Rundquist wrote:You guys are gay. Just kidding, though I’m surprised there haven’t been any comments about being lost in his eyes. :oops:
i think debbie gibson covered that in the 80's anyways rundquist.

here's my take on the pic:

the collar looks unlike the large collars that we have seen in other sheets (smaller in length and in width)

the biggie that i see is that the brim shape on his hat is opposite (reversed swoop) as to what we see on film. anyone else catch that?....i guess we should save that discussion for the fedora section though........
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Rundquist wrote:I just thought that it was funny that so many of you guys are so googely-eyed over Ford. :wink:
Haha. Leave that to me, guys. :twisted:
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Post by McFly »

He looks different because that's not Indiana Jones - that's Harrison Ford dressed up like Indiana Jones!

I think it makes a difference when the actor is "in character." Like some of you guys have said, he's got a certain expression on his face that's just not... Indy. He's definitely not in character (this may have just been a costume test), and I'm sure that has an effect on his persona and how he carries himself. We know he's pretty shy, but when he's Indy he's very much the opposite.

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IndyMcFly wrote:He looks different because that's not Indiana Jones - that's Harrison Ford dressed up like Indiana Jones!

I think it makes a difference when the actor is "in character." Like some of you guys have said, he's got a certain expression on his face that's just not... Indy. He's definitely not in character (this may have just been a costume test), and I'm sure that has an effect on his persona and how he carries himself. We know he's pretty shy, but when he's Indy he's very much the opposite.

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I agree. He looks more like Han Solo in this pic. That's kinds wierd that even though he is wearing the gear , he doesn't really "look" like Indy.
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He is not in character yet. That comes with the role.
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Lee Keppler wrote:He is not in character yet. That comes with the role.
Heh, assuming that they shot this around the time they were wrapping up a Star Wars movie, then that pic is just Han Solo dressing up as Indy ;)
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Post by rhboyd »

It's so true... it's ALL in the eyes. I saw Blade Runner on the big screen last night, and there wasn't a HINT of either Han or Indy... this pic is ALL Han... it's wuite amazing... so subtle... yet SO telling!!!!

I think he's dreamy too, Canyon... so there!!!! \:D/

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Post by Panama Tom Jr. »

He looks heavier and doesn't have a tan - and the hair's too long. He also lacks that ticked off, "Belloq just stole my idol" look...
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"Belloq just stole my idol"
that sounds like a t-shirt that cow can officially licence! :D
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Post by Panama Tom Jr. »

So I guess if Shia LeBeouf does play Indy's son in KotCS, he can wear a t-shirt that says " My Dad's Arch-Enemy Went to South America and All He Brought Back Was This Stupid Fertility Idol..."
Hmmm, that's alot to fit on a shirt... :-k
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Post by Red Dust »

i think harrison just came of empire when this pic was taken... so thats why he looks so different
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Post by sebas »

Getting back to the original request...can anyone post any more pics from this publicity shoot? Two come to mind:

-Harrison with one knee up, holding his whip in one hand and resting the other hand on his hip.

-Harrison side shot, raising his elbow.

I've seen the latter in some threads, but can't seem to find it.

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vp must be sleeping :wink:
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and don't forget this one with the prototype jacket ;)

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where's the 'prototype' pilot's crush cap? :lol:
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Indiana G wrote:where's the 'prototype' pilot's crush cap? :lol:
Kept getting blown away. It was long before the staple-to-the-forehead epiphany ;)
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Indiana G wrote:Image
Wonder if we can learn anything about Indy's jacket's armhole from this pic... ;) Guess it does ride up after all! And from the looks of it, I'd think that the flying squirrel cometh!

And also, if this picture is anything to go by, looks almost as if they originally wanted Indy's gunbelt as his ONLY belt... Given the absence of a web-belt in this pic ;)
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Post by Nels »

Looks to me like the gunbelt might be over top of the web... look... the belt loops are UNDER the gunbelt... so maybe.

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Arca Pedia wrote:
and don't forget this one with the prototype jacket

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Huh, you do know that's a publicity still from the 1979 film "Hannover Street" right? Although it is Harrison up against the Nazis. Again, and disguising himself as one. Again. Check out the link for more pics:

http://www.hfm2.com/photopost1/showgallery.php/cat/571
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I am fairly certain that Arca was just kidding, thus the :wink: after his post........... :wink:
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Post by sebas »

Ah! Okay, gotcha.... :D

Thanks for posting the pics, fellas. Anyway can we get a bigger version of this one?


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And whose elbow is that in the other picture with Harrison?
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I got a not-so-great-but-pretty-good version... it's big... so here's a link

http://www.ronboyd.com/ImageHost/IndyWhip.jpg

rightclick download....
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Post by sebas »

Thanks rhboyd!

Well, from the pics -gearwise- it looks as if the jacket length is pretty short. Compared to the length seen in the opening temple scenes and also in Salah-and-Indy-with-the-wise-old-man-Ra-headpiece scenes especially. Can we assume that jackets were made at varying lengths? Has this been established?
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Castor Dioscuri wrote:
Indiana G wrote:Image
Wonder if we can learn anything about Indy's jacket's armhole from this pic... ;) Guess it does ride up after all! And from the looks of it, I'd think that the flying squirrel cometh!

And also, if this picture is anything to go by, looks almost as if they originally wanted Indy's gunbelt as his ONLY belt... Given the absence of a web-belt in this pic ;)
You know that pleat has definitely a single piece of leather not two hmmmm
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sebas wrote:Thanks rhboyd!

Well, from the pics -gearwise- it looks as if the jacket length is pretty short. Compared to the length seen in the opening temple scenes and also in Salah-and-Indy-with-the-wise-old-man-Ra-headpiece scenes especially. Can we assume that jackets were made at varying lengths? Has this been established?
Well, from the one of Indy leaning on his knee, the jacket is riding up his left side due to his posture, so it would seem shorter than it is. You can't tell how much it has ridden up, since the right hand side is obscured by his arm.

In the picture of Indy raising his arm, once again the jacket is riding up. Try this with almost any Indy jacket, and you'll get a similar effect ;)
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rhboyd wrote:I think he's dreamy too, Canyon... so there!!!! \:D/

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You, sir, have taste! :clap:

Seriously though, I think that Harrison is masculine enough for even a guy to appreciate how good looking he is. :P
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sebas wrote:
And whose elbow is that in the other picture with Harrison?
FYI; The elbow belongs to Photographic Effects Supervisor Richard Edlund (Source: American Cinematographer, Nov. 1981).

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