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Ratty Raiders/SOC
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:59 am
by Dr.Seuss
Dress hats are dandy.
How about posting pictures of your SOC/shabby styles? Fullers is optional.
Sincerely,
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:40 pm
by GCR
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:13 pm
by Dr.Seuss
GCR:
That's what I'm talking about! Adventurer's hat; rough and tumble, down and dirty. Now I know why the rabbit AB caught my eye, when you posted your collection, -- SOC.
Samuel:
No credit for making the hat(s), just for beating it up. Actually they are one and the same, but between the shots, she was reshaped (steamed into oblivion and stretched over a Fedora's Raiders Block) and then rebashed, so to speak.
The crowns appear tall, partially due to the brim width. She is an older PB Custom (was told it was a "_" version), 2 1/2 side brim, and roughly 2 5/8 front and back brim. Always seemed "skimpy" on the brim. The crown, after all the reshaping/block steaming abuse, starts, pre-crease at just shy of 5 3/4. Bashed, the front pinch is roughly 5 inches.
That hat is indestructible, although the proportions are less than SA.
Sincerely,
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:22 pm
by Dr.Seuss
I think, that belongs here.
Great hat.
Sincerely,
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:47 am
by coronado3
Sweet fed!
I have an ab in the same size, slightly cairo-esq... great hat! (sold- my head got too big!
)
C3
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:37 am
by Ken
Not SOC exactly but certainly shabby. This is it in relatively good condition. My old Keppler (RIP).
Ken
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:05 am
by Dr.Seuss
Ken wrote:
Another outstanding Adventurer's lid. Have not seen a Keppler posted in a bit. It's got character! Thanks Ken.
BTW: What's the story on the stained rock, behind you?
Sincerely,
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:42 am
by Ken
Unfortunately I think its just some random graffitti on the rock behind - the shots were taken in the desert out near Victorville California when we were filming on Treasure of the Templars. The hat is in much worse condition now - has a permanent taper, has lost both the liner and sweatband - you can see from the photos it just doesn't sit on my head as well as it used to:
Ken
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:45 am
by Michaelson
You DESPERATELY need to send that to Steve Delk to have rebuilt, Ken!
It's a part of the history of the hobby now. Don't let it get to far gone.
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:14 am
by Ken
Michaelson wrote:You DESPERATELY need to send that to Steve Delk to have rebuilt, Ken!
It's a part of the history of the hobby now. Don't let it get to far gone.
Regards! Michaelson
I dont know - I kind of like the idea of just retiring it how it is. ITs now a relic of Templars and I'll just preserve it as such- I have an AB currently undergoing some construction with Steve and my feeling is to make that my new Indy hat, which will from now on accompany me on all adventures.
Ken
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:29 am
by Michaelson
Understood....as long as it has a place of honor on your shelf.
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:45 pm
by Dr.Seuss
Fedora wrote:I want a Cairo hat."
"Well, sit on it a few times."
"But it won't look good with suits anymore."
"Then you don't want a Cairo hat, you want a Raiders bashed fedora."
The truth of the matter is, the SOC hat just looks like it is in need of a refurbish. The felt has sagged, and bulged and lost the traditional fedora, clean and crisp good look. It looks like a worn out hat, but without the holes. And that is why I love it so much!! But, with that said, it is hard to get that look without beating the hat up and yes, crushing it by sitting on it. If after one sitting, it still doesn't have the proper look, sit on it as many times as it takes. If the hat has stiffener, you will need to break this down before it approaches the look many of us like. The stiffener is put in a new hat to help maintain the new look. When someone ordera a hat from me that they want to look like one of the distressed Indy fedora, that is a tall order. Mainly because I do not feel comfortable beating up a new hat, for someone else. And, that is easy to so yourself. Most can tear up a steel ball with a feather.
Fedora
A couple of styling notes/thoughts from a hatter.
BTW: The quoted portion is a squib from Aeris Canon.
(Incredible, the material which is available in the threads.)
Sincerely,
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:59 pm
by Tennessee Smith
Ken wrote:Unfortunately I think its just some random graffitti on the rock behind - the shots were taken in the desert out near Victorville California when we were filming on Treasure of the Templars. The hat is in much worse condition now - has a permanent taper, has lost both the liner and sweatband - you can see from the photos it just doesn't sit on my head as well as it used to:
Ken
Ken,
Out of curiostity, is that rock behind you (not the spray painted one from the prior conversation) the same location as the one used in... well, let me see; the original Star Trek series "Arena" episode and Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey?
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:08 pm
by Dostacos
that is Vasquez rocks, also the location of ....bedrock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasquez_Rocks
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:59 pm
by Tennessee Smith
I forgot about Bedrock, thanks Dostacos!!!
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:54 am
by IndyFan89
What all neads to be done to a hat to make it SoC accurate?
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:20 am
by Dr.Seuss
IndyFan89 wrote:What all neads to be done to a hat to make it SoC accurate?
A start.
Fedora wrote:I want a Cairo hat."
"Well, sit on it a few times."
"But it won't look good with suits anymore."
"Then you don't want a Cairo hat, you want a Raiders bashed fedora."
The truth of the matter is, the SOC hat just looks like it is in need of a refurbish. The felt has sagged, and bulged and lost the traditional fedora, clean and crisp good look. It looks like a worn out hat, but without the holes. And that is why I love it so much!! But, with that said, it is hard to get that look without beating the hat up and yes, crushing it by sitting on it. If after one sitting, it still doesn't have the proper look, sit on it as many times as it takes. If the hat has stiffener, you will need to break this down before it approaches the look many of us like. The stiffener is put in a new hat to help maintain the new look. When someone ordera a hat from me that they want to look like one of the distressed Indy fedora, that is a tall order. Mainly because I do not feel comfortable beating up a new hat, for someone else. And, that is easy to so yourself. Most can tear up a steel ball with a feather.
Fedora
Sincerely,
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:19 pm
by Indiana Blooze
This is my Peter's Bros. I bought it around 2003. It has the prerequisite early PB tall crown and narrow brim. This was the first real Indy hat I owned. I owned 2 Stetsons and 1 Dorfman prior to getting this hat, which I purchased due to a lot of what was said on these very boards.
When I got this hat, it was bullet-proof stiff. Now it is quite soft. It has never been re-blocked or cleaned. In fact, I don't think I ever even brushed it. It was my daily wear hat from the time I got it until May of 2006 when I got my ABD. Now it is my dirty work , work in the yard hat. It is a very good friend indeed.
Oh yeah, this is the hat I've mentioned before. You know, the one that looks grey/gray in certain lighting conditions (Dives for cover under Michaelson's Plymouth. Don't worry I've got coffee and bug spray
)
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:40 pm
by Michaelson
Enter and welcome!
HIGH regard! Michaelson
