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Does Sunlight darken leather? Experts say...

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:21 pm
by mufflowne
Hookay, so Michaelson ruffled me to make a new topic. So here goes.
I just got my new worn-look lambskin wested and it's pretty light.
I've also been told that sunlight will apparently darken the leather.

IS THIS TRUUUEE? :shock:

Okay, weird title of the forum.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:38 pm
by Tycoonman
Sunlight usually fades colors, so I'd assume it is the same with leather. I know that sometimes wetting leather with water will bring up more dye and darken the leather, but it also dries the leather out. Usually a good dosing of Leather Dressing will bring the life back into the leather.

Others should have far better advice than I though.

Tycoonman

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:54 pm
by Ripper
Sunlight will darken a Whip.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:58 pm
by Tycoonman
But it also comes into question which types of leather darken. Does kangaroo hide darken while lamb skin lightens, or do they both darken?

Tycoonman

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:01 am
by Ripper
That I do not know. I would imagine that a natural hide would darken(kind of like a suntan) as to where a dyed hyde would fade.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:11 am
by Indiana Jerry
Not to make matters worse...

...but is it the LEATHER darkening, or something it's treated with?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:32 am
by Tycoonman
Another valid question Jerry. It makes you wonder what we are dealing with here, leather, dye, or one of the many other treatments used on the jacket... maybe it then becomes a combination of all of that.

Tycoonman

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:14 am
by mufflowne
haha noone knows anything.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:56 am
by Indiana Jerry
hey, it's a better starting point than knowing things that aren't true. ;)

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:01 am
by mufflowne
I just read that Mink Oil and other animal fats can darken the leather, but they clog up the pores, so they damage it sorta.

And sunlight may fade the color. Does anyone know if the worn-look lambskin is tanned lamb with dye or what? It may very well also depend on the lightfastness of the color itself. Just like magazines on a rack. Boo.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:39 am
by Rabittooth
It's not the light of direct sunlight that will darken leather (I've had some experience with whips here)...it's the heat.
I've intentionally baked new natural kangaroo bullwhips in the oven for VERY brief periods to hasten the darkening and it worked.
Light without heat will do nothing to leather.
Your skin tans as part of an active biological process to protect your skin from burning. Dead leather will not do that.
Now..as I said...I've done this with whips, as to jackets that are too light colored. I'd stick to some kind of leather dressing with a dye in it to darken it.

-Rabittooth

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:49 am
by Swindiana
:D

I think we might have covered all the household appliences soon!
You're a brave man, Rab. ;)

Got any shots for comparison?
I myself darkened mine with light dabs of shoecream. :shock:

Regards,
Swindiana

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:20 am
by Michaelson
From my reading and interviews with owners of leather hide companies here in Tullahoma TN over the years, tanned and dyed hides will lighten up in color after extended exposure to sunlight, unlike kangaroo hide. 'roo hide is as close to human skin as you can get, and the hide actually suntans like human skin the longer it remains exposed to sunlight....so your 'roo hide actually gets darker over time and exposure in sunlight, and everything else get lighter.

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:21 am
by mufflowne
Bummer. Now we should all go bug Peter to make a roo jacket. That would be my ideal kind of indy jacket.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:03 pm
by indy89
Good. Maybe my darkbrown USW goatskin jacket will fade.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:07 pm
by whiskyman
I think you have to discern between leather and dye. Natural leather (not only roohide) will darken with light/heat. A dye will fade with light. Personally, I can't imagine a dyed leather hide used for a jacket darkening due to exposure to light. I may be wrong.