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Adventurebilt shirts arrived :-)
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:12 pm
by Marc
Ok, ok. It's only a prototype that I got today, but I can't help but being VERY impressed on the care for detail in this replica. Granted, there are some minor errors, that will have to be taken care of yet (f. eks. the stitches on the bottons should be over cross instead of parallel, the stitch count needs to be round about 6 per cm instead of 3.5), but all in all, this is just great IMHO (I didn't make it, so I guess it's ok to say so). The material is the EXACT same as on the vintage MBA shirt. On the prototype of course it hasn't been dyed yet, but the weight, feel and density are identical! Even the stitching on the hem of the shirt was replicated spot on.
I'll make a list of the few changes I wanna have made and sent both shirts back. Hopefully I'll get a final quotation soon after, so I can offer them to anyone interested. I've talked to Steve and he'll take care of forwarding the shirts within the U.S., so I can send him a package full of shirts a time - which will cut the shipping costs per shirt down tremendouesly (once we get to that point).
Since I have to take 2200 yards of the textile, I'll offer a discounted "taking the plunge offer", for those helping me out to begin with.
Any feedback is highly appreciated.
Here are the pics:
Don't be shy to let me know your honest opinions. If you see anything that hasn't caught my eye, this is the time to change it.
Thanks,
Marc
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:16 pm
by Ripper
I think it looks great ! The color isnt half bad the way it is. Id like to own one!

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:23 pm
by agent5
Bravo! Well done. Very well done.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:24 pm
by Michaelson
Price?
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:44 pm
by Marc
I'm not sure yet Mark

I have a feeling that shortening the cuffs one mm and stuff like that will make my shirt maker re-calculate. But if it can't be offered for a fair price, I'll let it go.
Regards,
Marc (with "c")
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:55 pm
by Nicolas
It's looking good!
I definitely want one of these shirts if they're less expensive than the original....
Concerning this prototype, is it possible to have a close-up picture of the seaming-areas ? From my point of view, stitiching is the weak point of the current NH shirt. I would like to know if the bottom of your shirt looks like this : (MBA shirt, there is a kind of small "hem")
Or this (current NH shirt, without the hem and with "loose" threading) :
Thank you !
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:56 pm
by Michaelson
Understood.
Well, unfortunately it's kind of like committing to PLATON's trouser offer....without some kind of input as to a price, it's hard to say 'sure, put me down for one' at this time.
Guess I'll have to watch and wait...
Regards! Michaelson/Mark (with a 'K')

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:00 pm
by Captain Ron Solo
I thinkit looks great, too. Always on th lookout for a more reasonably priced shirt - trousers, too!
JKL
Ron
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:26 pm
by Indiana Kev
The shirt looks great! I happen to like the color it is too.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:48 pm
by binkmeisterRick
Will they be custom sized, or standard S,M,L, etc.? Looks good, though!
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:52 pm
by Sitting Rabbit
Yes Marc, I'll be curious to see the price difference. Since you are a stickler to detail like me, I'm sure it'll be a really nice shirt. Keep us updated!

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:56 pm
by McFly
binkmeisterRick wrote:Will they be custom sized, or standard S,M,L, etc.? Looks good, though!
My thoughts too... otherwise I'll be getting one of these as a grad school graduation gift...
Looks really good though, guys. You're going to give it the MBA color? What will the tag say inside?
In Christ,
Shane
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:20 pm
by Marc
Well, I can't put anyone on the list currently anyway, so...

I'll let you know, as soon as I know.
They'll be sized in S,M,L etc. I considered custom sizing, but it would really drive the price up, to where I wouldn't feel comfortable selling it to fellow gearheads.
Colorwise it'll be dyed to the exact same color as you see on that vintage MBA shirt in the pics. I haven't given too much thoughts on the tag yet, even though Steve had a nice idea, that I'll look into.
@Nicolas: Here's how the stitching on the prototype is:
Regards,
Marc
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:30 pm
by Canyon
I think it looks great too.
I think you will definately have an interest as to my eyes, its the SoC Raiders colour.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:52 pm
by WinstonWolf359
Looks good Marc!
Consider me interested!

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:52 pm
by djd
Looks really good. Nice work! Again, i'd go for one if the price is right. One of the on line thai tailors is having a go at a one off for me. I don't expect it will be particularly screen accurate as they're just working off some photos. Also the material won't be spot on like yours. A one off made to measure is costing me 80 dollars. If i went back for a second one that would be down to 60. Is that in the sort of right area?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:45 pm
by VP
The epaulets should look like this:
I might be interested, what price range are we talking about here? I wear a size 43-17 dress shirt, am 188cms tall (6'2") and I have a 105cm chest (41.3"), would that put me in a size M or L shirt?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:02 pm
by Indiana G
AB shirts! nice! count me in for taking the plunge! how bout some pants now?

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:23 pm
by Nicolas
Thank you for the picture Marc.
I agree with VP, my NH shirt (received a few days ago) has this kind of epaulets. Also, I don't know if anybody agree with me but IMHO, the NH shirt could be more form-fitting and closer to the body....
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:33 pm
by Mulceber
Looks great, Marc! My only comment is that it looks like the pockets might be just a LITTLE too high...other than that, it looks awesome. Oh, and depending on the price, I might be interested in the "discount take the plunge" offer. It really all depends on the money because I'm on a bit of a tight budget. :junior: -IJ
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:27 pm
by Kittlemeier
The shirt looks great but if you're going with the standard sizes the sleeves will probably be too short for many including me. Maybe make the sleeves a little longer than normal so that could be adjusted?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:12 pm
by binkmeisterRick
Make the sleeves longer? I'd say make them a hint shorter! I have the opposite problem, Kittlemeier. Most of the stanard sized shirts have sleeves which are too long for me. You must have ape arms to my T-Rex arms.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:43 pm
by Lee Keppler
Just add the pen pocket. Looks good.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:16 pm
by Indiana Croft
Yea, I like it. If the price is right I'll go with two.
Nice work indeed, very nice.
Croft
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:41 pm
by Indiana
I'm interested too, as long as the price is right.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:27 pm
by Michaelson
I guess you've noticed the common thread here, Marc?
Interest is based on the price.
Regard! Michaelson
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:29 pm
by Indiana G
the proce is right!
sorry michaelson, couldn't resist

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:30 pm
by Indiana G
hey....you edited it....not fair...now no one will understand me
not that there is an overwhelming populas in that sense but still!!!
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:31 pm
by Michaelson
Fortunately, I caught it before you grabbed a 'quote', g.
So, what, exactly ARE you talking about?
Regards! Michaelson
p.s. I'll fess up, folks. He caught a new spelling of 'price' before I fixed it in my original posting.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:32 pm
by binkmeisterRick
What are you saying, G? Is that English? I can't understand you.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:34 pm
by Indiana Kev
Did I mention that I would be interested if the price is right?

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:35 pm
by binkmeisterRick
Sorry, Bob Barker quit.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:36 pm
by Mulceber
Interest is based on the price.
Makes sense to me: between Wested, Magnoli Clothiers and Noel Howard, Indy fans have their pick of screen accurate shirts. Trouble is, they all cost about $70. If Marc could make an SA shirt for $20-$30 less, the AB shirt would have a clear advantage.
Besides, Adventurebilt is known for three things: high quality, screen accuracy and reasonable price (relative to the cost of materials). I'm hoping they'll continue that trend with the Indy shirt. :junior: -IJ
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:36 pm
by Michaelson
No, Kev. That's 'proce'. Get it right if you're going to show interest. I mean, really!
HIGH regard! Michaelson
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:38 pm
by Indiana Kev
I'm disappointed in myself.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:39 pm
by Mulceber
btw, Marc, does the shirt come pre-shrunk (assuming the material it's made from does shrink)? :junior: -IJ
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:41 pm
by Indiana G
well then....niw that we understand each ither....hiw much fir ine if thise lively shorts?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:10 am
by agent5
Trouble is, they all cost about $70.
I think as long as the quality is there that a custom made shirt for $70 is not bad at all. In fact, I don;t see it being cost prohibitive if it were any less. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for the 'proce' to be cheaper but I can't see it being any lower for a shirt not made in some factory in Tailand, a'al Wal-Mart. Perhaps Marc will prove me wrong but if not you won't find me complaining about it.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:23 am
by Mulceber
I think as long as the quality is there that a custom made shirt for $70 is not bad at all.
When you're a teenager living on a fixed income though, $70 is expensive for ANY shirt. :junior: -IJ
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:31 am
by Indiana G
indianajones (man, i guess you were in line pretty early when snagging user names

),
i know exactly what you're talking about. 70 bones was alot of money when i was a teenager. i definitely admire that your in the hobby though.
cheers
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:34 am
by Jaredraptor
IndianaJones wrote: When you're a teenager living on a fixed income though, $70 is expensive for ANY shirt. :junior: -IJ
I can second that.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:42 am
by agent5
$70 was alot to me back then too but the bottom line is you get what you pay for. This is not a mass produced shirt...no off the rack. Time to start saving like I did.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:47 am
by Jaredraptor
True. It most definitely is time for me to start savin'.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:48 am
by Mulceber
man, i guess you were in line pretty early when snagging user names
Oh yeah. I was also feeling particularly uncreative that night...in retrospect I probably would have been better off if I'd chosen something a little more...individualistic (I think that's a word).
definitely admire that your in the hobby though.
Hey, thanks G.
the bottom line is you get what you pay for. This is not a mass produced shirt
Very true. Although personally, I'd be more than willing to settle for an off-the-rack shirt if it had the pleats and the epaulets. :junior: -IJ
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:52 am
by agent5
personally, I'd be more than willing to settle for an off-the-rack shirt if it had the pleats and the epaulets.
So would most of us. But they don't have the pleats and/or epaulettes so if you want them you have to get a replica Indy shirt from one of our many vendors. Hence, you get what you pay for.

I'm sure Marc will do whatever he can to keep the price as low as possible for all of us. Just keep in mind that if he doesn't make money he won't be making them for long. Takes money to make these to begin with and if he's not making money to get the material and get them made then we get no shirts.
Don't feel bad guys. I'm 34 and I still have to save to get some of this stuff. Hobbies are never cheap. Next year, the year of Indiana Jones, will be an expensive one for most of us.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:52 am
by TheFedoraGuy
@Marc, it's Achim, who's also *very* interested in a shirt like this!

Aaaand the reblock we were talking about

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:03 am
by Jaredraptor
agent5 wrote:
Don't feel bad guys. I'm 34 and I still have to save to get some of this stuff. Hobbies are never cheap. Next year, the year of Indiana Jones, will be an expensive one for most of us.
Shoot, it will be expensive next year. Good thing my parents said they'd get me that Akubra for Christmas.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:17 am
by IndyFan89
I'm need a SA shirt anyways and this would be my first. If the price is right i'm definatlly in. ($100 or less would be the right price for me so i'm pritty much in.)
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:30 am
by djd
Nicolas wrote:Thank you for the picture Marc.
I agree with VP, my NH shirt (received a few days ago) has this kind of epaulets. Also, I don't know if anybody agree with me but IMHO, the NH shirt could be more form-fitting and closer to the body....
My NH is really well fitted Nicolas. What sort of build are you? Get down the gym and put a bit more muscle on your shoulders and chest and see how the shirt fits then

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:26 am
by Nicolas
djd, I'm 180 cm tall and I weigh 72kg. I'm clearly not obese but I'm not slim either. I think I'm in the avearge shape... The NH (size M) is perfect on the shoulder and a little tight on the neck, however it's too baggy around the waist. I've done a search and, apparently, Rick5150 and Agent5 share my opinion. Maybe we're only three on the forum to have a "Wasp waist"
