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removing batting in US Wings jackets

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:01 pm
by Arca Perdida
I have 2 of their clearance jackets, one in goat and one in antique lamb. I've been reading about folks removing the batting and getting a much better drape, at the expense of warmth.
I'm contemplating doing that to one of my jackets, but would like to keep the other for colder weather.
Should I do it to the lamb, since the goat is probably more insulating and a better winter jacket to begin with?

Then, if I do that, what's the best way? Where is best place to slit the lining open in terms of ease of removing the batting as well as fixing the lining when I'm done? I can't sew ;)

Thanks

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:11 pm
by coronado3
Do it to both!

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:16 pm
by binkmeisterRick
If you choose to remove the batting, I'd do it on only ONE of the jackets. Wait a while and see if you like the one without the batting before removing it on the other. I have a USW G-2 in antique lamb which I like (after I got one that fit me correctly). I opted to keep the batting in.

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:19 pm
by Michaelson
Agreed. One jacket at a time. Once removed, it can't be replaced.

Regards! Michaelson

batting removal

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:20 pm
by skbellis
I kept the batting in my US Wings G-2, but I opted to remove it from my US Wings Horsehide Indy.

Get yourself a seam ripper and undo one of the seams in the middle of the jacket. Make the open seam big enough to get your hand and part of your arm into.I think your best bet is to sort of open it up in the middle, making it easier to re-sew when you are done. Once you have the opening just reach in and start pulling the batting out. It may take a little while, the batting seams to stick on some of the seams and near the bottom of the sleeves. When you are finished, neatly sew the lining back. Hope that explains it well enough.

Cheers,

---Scott

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:46 pm
by rebelgtp
i actually opted to pop the stitching in the armpit of my liner. made a hole big enough to get my arm in to pull the batting out from both sides. really you can do it at any of the seems i just chose the arm pit as it was one of the least visible.

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:22 pm
by indy89
Does the American made USW jackets have batting?
Because my goatskin jacket doesn't seem to have it.

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:22 pm
by binkmeisterRick
I believe my USW G-2 is American made. I can't find a label in it anywhere saying it was made anywhere else. It has batting.

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:49 pm
by indy89
I felt around the inside of my jacket and all I felt was the polyester lining and leather.
So I'm guessing my jacket doesn't have batting.

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:58 am
by IndyFan89
Is there a thread where i can learn more about the batting and how to remove it? Even what it is? lol

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:36 am
by Arca Perdida
IndyFan89 wrote:Is there a thread where i can learn more about the batting and how to remove it? Even what it is? lol
IndyFan, I think this is it :)

Thanks for the tips. I would definitely pick one to do that to, not both. Besides, I'd like to keep one for colder weather.
What holds the batting in place inside the jacket? Is it possible to damage any of the stitching when pulling it out if it's stuck on it?

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:48 am
by indy89
Hey IF89, dont you have a USW lambskin jacket?

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:01 am
by IndyFan89
Ya! Does that have a batter?

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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:22 am
by indy89
IF89. telling by your three piece sleeve, I'm guessing it's a clearance jacket.
Arca Perdida stated that his is an import and has a batting.
So yours might have one too, if it's an import.
I don't know, I could be wrong.
Mine is US made and it doesn't have a batting.
I know it doesn't cause I just cut a little slit in the inside of my jacket and saw nothing but leather.
Don't worry I'm gonna sew it up ASAP. :wink:

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:26 am
by fishmeok
As far as I know the batting isn't actually insulation. I think it's used to help hold the liner together while it's being constructed. The batting is sewn into the liner only around the seams-
Cheers
Mark

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:17 am
by Michaelson
According to Wings, it is insulation. The reason it's only sewn at the seams is to allow air to circulate, keeping the warm air close to the body, and cold air out.

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:46 am
by Michaelson
I'm sure it was applied to simply insulate the fish, too. 8)

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:15 am
by binkmeisterRick
How was the fish? Did it fit correctly? :wink:

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:14 pm
by IndyFan89
indy89 wrote:IF89. telling by your three piece sleeve, I'm guessing it's a clearance jacket.
Arca Perdida stated that his is an import and has a batting.
So yours might have one too, if it's an import.
I don't know, I could be wrong.
Mine is US made and it doesn't have a batting.
I know it doesn't cause I just cut a little slit in the inside of my jacket and saw nothing but leather.
Don't worry I'm gonna so it up ASAP. :wink:
I bought mine before the clearence :roll: . Maybe mine is a import i don't know?

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:15 pm
by IndyFan89
Where is it at and how do i take it out?

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:07 pm
by indy89
IF89, according to fishmeok and Michaelson,
the batting is located only around the seams.
That should answer your question about where the batting is.

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:08 pm
by Michaelson
No, that's not what I said. It's ATTACHED, or sewn in at the seams. It's all behind the entire lining of the jacket.

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:11 pm
by indy89
Oh @#$%! Sorry, I missed that.
Forget what I said IF89, don't listen to me.

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:21 pm
by Michaelson
No, no problem at all, Indy89, and no mistake on your part. =;

I just left out key words in the original post, thinking folks could read my mind. #-o :lol:

HIGH regards! Michaelson

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:34 pm
by binkmeisterRick
I can read your mind, Michaelson. How's this: "I think I need another cup of coffee." :wink:

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:43 pm
by Michaelson
Well, when it's one track, SURE you can read it..... :lol:

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:45 pm
by Arca Perdida
I've read before that the batting serves 2 purposes. Insulation and to give the jacket some shape. The latter explains why it drapes better without it. Because your body gives it the shape.

So, if it's attached at the seams, how do I make sure not to rip that when I'm pulling it out?

Coffee rules! Just gotta go easy on the Bailey's.

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:56 pm
by Michaelson
Arca Perdida wrote: The latter explains why it drapes better without it. Because your body gives it the shape.
Yet another reason why I never remove batting from a jacket. If it's expecting MY body to give it shape, I may as well wear a burlap bag! :shock: :roll: :wink:

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:56 pm
by fishmeok
Ah- maybe that's why mine was a "clearance" jacket- the batting was only at the ends of the arms and around the armpits...

Still think it looks better without the stuffing though.
Cheers
Mark

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:45 pm
by binkmeisterRick
Michaelson wrote: Yet another reason why I never remove batting from a jacket. If it's expecting MY body to give it shape, I may as well wear a burlap bag! :shock: :roll: :wink:

Regards! Michaelson
One burlap bag comin' right up!

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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:13 am
by Michaelson
Ouch! :lol:

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:36 am
by JulianK
Easy answer. Remove batting. Jacket fits better. Weather gets colder. I put on sweater underneath. Done deal.

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:29 pm
by raider 57
As observed by INDY89;My US Wings US-made Indy Goatskin has no batting material between the lining and leather shell. Through the lining all you can feel is the leather, there is nothing else in there.
raider 57

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:54 pm
by indy89
Which is good, because I hate insulation in adventure jackets.

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:08 pm
by raider 57
It's still pretty warm for winter even without. As they say,just wear a warm shirt under it.

raider 57

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:15 pm
by indy89
Right on. :wink:

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:55 pm
by kobol
I removed the batting from my USWings clearance goat. I just carefully opened one of the liner seams and stuck my hand in gently and carefully started removing the batting. Then I had a local tailor sew it back up for $5.00 so it looked like new again.
It did improve the drape and it's perfect right now for our current Seattle temps.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:13 am
by coronado3
Not only did my goat have the batting, but it also had thin shoulder pads - which I promptly removed! IT fits fantastic now!

I also have a vin cow US wings, which now has the batting removed but it didn't have the shoulder padding.

Did anyone else have shoulder pads on their import Indy jackets?

C3

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:55 am
by IndyFan89
Please some one post pics on where this is located!

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:58 am
by indy89
IndyFan89 wrote:Please some one post pics on where this is located!
It's in the jacket. :lol: :wink:

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:16 am
by Castor Dioscuri
coronado3 wrote:Not only did my goat have the batting, but it also had thin shoulder pads - which I promptly removed! IT fits fantastic now!

I also have a vin cow US wings, which now has the batting removed but it didn't have the shoulder padding.

Did anyone else have shoulder pads on their import Indy jackets?

C3
I had shoulder pads on my recent pre-distressed Wested prototype, but I'm not sure if it's made outside of the UK or not...

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:51 am
by JulianK
IT fits fantastic now!
Just out of curiousity, do you find that it fits a little larger now or is the sizing more or less the same as it was with the batting in?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:59 am
by Ripper
IndyFan89 wrote:
Please some one post pics on where this is located!


It's in the jacket.
OK, How about posting pics of someone actually taking it out of the jacket ?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:48 pm
by coronado3
Julian

I have found that the fit is the same without the batting, it just drapes better and is not so "puffy". Removing the batting is a vast improvement on these US wings jackets...Also, don't forget to remove the shoulder pads, too!

C3

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:55 pm
by binkmeisterRick
And the pockets. Don't forget to remove the pockets, too... and the collar... :wink:

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:30 pm
by indy89
:lol:

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:43 pm
by Dengar
Can someone please post a before and after picture(s)? And a photo of what exactly it looks like and where it is? Is it just the inside lining and stitching?

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:40 am
by Arca Perdida
binkmeisterRick wrote:And the pockets. Don't forget to remove the pockets, too... and the collar... :wink:
Well, I'm glad I tried your suggestion on just one of them. I think it loses a bit of its "Indyness."

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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:07 am
by Michaelson
Arca, the day you start listening to bink is the day we take you to counciling! [-X :lol: :wink:

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:20 am
by binkmeisterRick
No amount of counciling will help that boy now. It's too late. :twisted: :wink: