Club Obi Wan

When you're going for that LC look and decide to don yourself a black necktie, how do you tie the knot? I like to go with the classic windsor knot myself, I think it looks better. How do you do it, or how do you think it should be done?

what is a half windsor knot? i know the double windsor, the single windsor, and the four in hand. i usually go with the single windsor.

This would be the half-windsor:



Depending on how thick the tie is and what collar I'm wearing that's the one I use. If the tie is thicker I tend to go for the Four-in-hand.

The downside to the Windsor one if you're tall like me is that you get almost no narrow end left of the tie when you're done. I wish they'd make more of the longer ties, but they all seem to be standardized somehow.

LC look... Windsor or Half-Windsor maybe? The tie looks pretty thin.



Regards,
Swindiana

Swindy, I believe your diagram there depicts the windsor knot instead of the half windsor. That's the knot I tie, and as I was always aware, it is a windsor.

This is the half windsor:



The tie looks tied pretty tight in that screen cap, and the knot is looking pretty small. Windsor knots are usually pretty fat, so I am guessing Ford tied it with a half windsor, at least in that pic.

Why not show diagrams of how to tie all three or four knots discussed so everyone can tell the difference between them. Besides, I'm not sure the name of the knot I tie. Oh, maybe it's the granny knot.

This is the one that says Windsor when I looked for it:



Well... They sort of come the same effect I guess.

Bink:
I do knot know, teaching knots, you know.

*This thing on?*

Regards,
Swindiana, he know knots, he crazy.

I use the same as Swindy and Strider. http://tie-a-tie.net/

when did the windsor knot nomenclature get divided by 2?

okay, from what i understand a windsor knot (what i call a double windsor) is a more even knot where the tie iwraps itself around both sides of the knot making for a very distinctive triangle (yield sign) looking knot.

the half windsor or what i call a single windsor is wrapped mostly on just one side of the tie creating a more longer knot when pulled down/tightened. theres a little more playing involved to get this knot looking even as it is not a symetrical setup. i don't recall if you can do this with the knot above but this knot pulls apart once the tail has been slipped through it when you are taking it off. the 4 in hand has to be manually untied.

I used to tie the four in hand knot, but I was always able to slip the tail out and untie it. Never had to manually untie that one. The windsor is just what you said, the knot that ends up looking like a triangle.

This is the four in hand:

I tie the four in hand, that is they way my Dad taught me and it only seems right.

My dad only taught me the four in hand also. I just learned the windsor over time.

I only do a four-in-hand or a half windsor, because I like the knot to be a small as possible!


If you look closely you can see that Indy undouptly wears a windsor on all of his ties!


Regards,
Henrik

I guess I'm a four-in-hand guy. That, or a clip on tie.

I always use the Four in hand knot, although I didn't know it had a name! It is I believe the correct knot for fastening your tie in the UK armed forces, except when in mess kit!

Martin

I think the four-in-hand is very gumshoe dedective and noir accurate.

I never do anything but a Windsor (aka the Full Windsor or Double Windsor). I strongly dislike small knots or asymmetrical knots. They just bother me. *shrug*

In Christ,
Shane

blah blah blah blah arf arfarf arf...

You know, I used to know all these different knots, but even with the pictures they are all a blur. I tie a tie on auto-pilot, without a mirror, and even occasionally while driving (Dejah, you've seen me drive, now add in a tie), without thinking about it, and I couldn't even tell you which knot it is. Even looking at those pics, I've not a clue.

But yeah, I *think* it's a Windsor, not a Double-Windsor, and I agree with Indiana G, who decided to diminuate the Windsor so they wouldn't feel so conspicuous about their Double-Windsor?

webhead73 wrote:

IndyMcFly wrote:I never do anything but a Windsor (aka the Full Windsor or Double Windsor). I strongly dislike small knots or asymmetrical knots. They just bother me. *shrug*

In Christ,
Shane

I knew I liked you for some reason!

Now you know!

Symmetrical knots that are easy to find on a person (not small) are the best way to go. They're neat and sharp, I think.

Note that this is not to say that those of you who do otherwise don't qualify for the above adjectives. I'm just saying in my opinion, I think the Windsor is neater than the Four In Hand or Half Windsor.

In Christ,
Shane

when did the windsor knot nomenclature get divided by 2?

That's what I was wondering!
Either way, I usually use a Windsor (depending on whether its called a double or not). I also like how it keeps things symmetric and the knot doesn't come out too easily.Also, I think it looks nicer than a four-in-hand. However, there are some ties I own that are so thick that only a four-in-hand will work on them.

I go with the four-in-hand because of the versatility. The look can be either a wide knot resembling a Windsor or cinched down tight to have a very slim knot to be framed better in the collar with a narrow spread, or braced by a tie bar. But hey, that is just my liking. To each their own.

Cheers!

Dan

I can understand that.

I think the reason Indy's knot looks so small is the same reason some of my windsor knots end up being really small instead of wide and triangular. It seems like some ties have wider "thin" ends than others, while some other ones have skinnier "thin" ends, and thus when you are tying a windsor with a tie that has a thinner thin end than most, the knot ends up being smaller when tied.

I think I use the half-windsor.

Don;t forget ToD. he wore a bow tie. How many of you can tie a bow tie? (my hand raised). I wear them on occasion if I want to appear very different.


Cheers!

if you can tie your shoes, you can tie a bow tie.....now if you want it to look nice, then that takes practice

Most of the folks here know how to tie a bowtie, thanks to Hemmingway Jones' tutorial.