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I know this will sound odd, but...

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 6:07 am
by Indiana_Hall
...What kind of affect would Pecards Leather Dressing have on nylon? Just thought I would ask.

High Regards, Indiana_Hall

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 6:17 am
by Indiana Joe
Leather dressing for nylon, eh? Must be thinking about that whip you have! It'll be interesting to see the responses.

I don't think so

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 10:50 am
by Michaelson
Pecards is specifically forumlated for use on leather products, lubricating the fibers and returning moisture to otherwise dry and distressed leather materials. Nylon is man made, and though the wax in the Pecards would probably help in waterproofing the surface, it would not do anything else in helping the nylon material. Regards. Michaelson

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 10:56 am
by Sergei
Well that's the beauty of a nylon whip, is that it does not need that constant attention to drying out as leather does. As far as Pecards, I think the biggest detriment is that it will attract dirt and dust in between the strands and will cause abrasion.

Most nylon whipmakers I know of treat their nylon whips with a coat of paraffin wax. And this is from Rhett Kelly: "I recommend re-waxing your whip (depending on frequency of use) about every 4 to 6 months. I normally dip the whip (without handle) into a pot of molten paraffin wax. Be careful no to get the wax too hot as it will melt the nylon. Bees wax can also be used."

Hopefully this helps.

-S

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 11:30 am
by Agent-Smith
Sergei wrote:Well that's the beauty of a nylon whip, is that it does not need that constant attention to drying out as leather does. As far as Pecards, I think the biggest detriment is that it will attract dirt and dust in between the strands and will cause abrasion.

Most nylon whipmakers I know of treat their nylon whips with a coat of paraffin wax. And this is from Rhett Kelly: "I recommend re-waxing your whip (depending on frequency of use) about every 4 to 6 months. I normally dip the whip (without handle) into a pot of molten paraffin wax. Be careful no to get the wax too hot as it will melt the nylon. Bees wax can also be used."

Hopefully this helps.

-S
The thing is, where can you actually find that stuff? Isn't there anything a little easier to take care of a nylon?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 12:07 pm
by The_Edge
Maybe one of these would work:

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http://www.davidmorgan.com/proddetail.h ... 477-728517

or

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http://www.davidmorgan.com/proddetail.h ... 477-728517

I've never actually used them but it seems to me that both these products would work great for weather proofing a nylon whip since they are used for weather proofing garments and luggage.

-Kyle

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 12:29 pm
by Sergei
What Rhett uses is the "Gulf Wax" brand. You can buy it at any grocery store, Wal-Mart, etc. It's a paraffin wax that used for canning, candles, whatever. Just to be clear, the nylon whips already come with a wax coating. The wax coating gives these whips some weight and body to them, as well as minimizing the abrasion between the strands when they rubb against each other.

Over time, the wax breaks down and it is recommended that they be rewaxed. So you just melt the wax in a pot, apply and rub it over the whip so it gets absorbed into it. Then from what I hear, people either use the hair dryer technique so that the wax bonds inside the nylon laces better.

If you have anymore questions you can contact Rhett Kelly (www.cowwhips.com) or Tim Bass (www.basswhips.com)