Leather dressing

[xfootdoc]

In a preveous post someone said that Red Wing shoe co. carries Pecards leather dressing under their own lable. I found the product at a local store and asked the owner what the contents were. He checked his catalog and said it contained mink oil. Isn't that a no no for a whip?I just wanted to check before I bought some...............Alan

[Indiana G]

yes yes, that is a definite no no.

buy pecards on-line (even e-bay)....delivery is quick.

[xfootdoc]

I've written to Pecards to gat a clarification............Alan

[Michaelson]

Always good to check the the ingredients. What was posted was Pecards is A subcontractor to Redwings for boot oil. They're not the ONLY supplier.

Regards! Michaelson

[BullWhipBorton]

I am sure Pecards can clear this up for you, but Red Wing shoes carry several different leather dressings and shoe oils. You don’t want the one with mink oil or the one with pine pitch in it. The one your looking for comes in a semi translucent 6 oz plastic container, Identical to Pecards only it has a black lid rather then white. The dressing itself looks like yellowish Vaseline. I can’t remember the exact name on the lid and I don’t have a container of the Red Wings stuff handy at the moment, but it’s Pecards classic leather dressing labeled with something like Redwing Shoe leather dressing, I believe it says something about being manufactured in Green Bay, Wisconsin too. Hope that helps.

Dan


P.S. Merry Christmas, Hope everyone has a safe and happy holiday!

[xfootdoc]

Below is the reply from Pecards. I'll go back to the store and recheck the product.



Mr. Zeichner,

Red Wing has a Mink Dressing that we don't manufacture for them. Their 6oz tub of dressing that is yellowish in appearance is the one that we do make for them. It is identical to our Classic Leather Dressing. It doesn't have any animal fats in it, such as Mink Oil.

Regards,

Eric Schlag
eric@pecard.com

[thefish]

So, this begs the question.

What the heck IS in Pecards, anyway?

Not being rude, just curious.

I use Fiebings, which contains sheep fat and mostly beeswax, and it looks it. Mostly yellow and fatty-looking. Dogs love the smell of it. I KNOW what's in that, and feel pretty comfortable using mostly natural products on my whips made of natural materials by the hands of skilled artists. Heck, when I was first developing those "Whip Callouses" on my thumb and index finger, I'd apply the leather conditioner by hand to double as a skin moisturizer, (kill two birds with one stone.)

What's in the clear stuff Pecards puts out. I know so many people that swear by it, and have handled whips treated with it, and can see it does a beautiful job, but there's been this little voice in the back of my head that's kept me a little hesitant to use it, simply because I didn't know what was in it.

So, any whip makers want or folks in the know want to tackle this and lay my personal biases to rest? ;-)

Thanks in advance, and have a happy new year!

[BullWhipBorton]

Hi Dan, unfortunately I don’t know exact formula, but the Pecards classic leather dressing is basically just a petroleum-based lubricant, very similar to Vaseline. It uses beeswax as another main ingredient though. The nice thing about it is that it’s supposed to be chemically neutral, as it does not contain any salts or volatile carrier agents/harsh solvents such as water, kerosene or alcohol to thin it. It won’t decompose to form any damaging chemicals either. I believe that Eric, one of the company reps is a member here, maybe he can add in with some more specific details, but in the mean time I hope that helps clear it up a little for you.

Happy New year too you too.

Dan

[VP]

Pecards is a secret mixture that contains one or more of the following:

• kerosene
  propylene glycerole
  artificial sweeteners
  sulphuric acid
  rum
  acetone
  red dye #2
  scumm
  axle grease
  battery acid
  and/or pepperoni

As you can imagine, it's one of the most caustic, volatile substances known to man.

[Leather_Loco]

Well, if I told you all the exact ingredients, I would have to commit hari cari. Then I would be strung up on a pole in front of Pecards as a reminder to the other employees of what happens when the "SECRET" is let out of the bag. Kinda like the Bush Beans commercial where the dog is always trying to sell the secret recipe.

Anyway, like I've said before, the base ingredient is a food grade petroleum product that won't react to the leather fibers except to provide lubrication without turning rancid over time. A blend of soft waxes are also included to coat the fibers to protect them from dirt and stains.

We've had reports of dogs eating Pecards Leather Dressing with no ill effects except for a little faster defication times (if you know what I mean). Maybe I should market this stuff as Power Pudding for dogs with constipation too??

I know that, along with duct tape, Pecards is THE thing to bring with you when you are stranded on an island. Ha! Another idea.....package a roll of duct tape with Pecards Dressing as a survival pack. If they can get away with packing a roll of toilet paper with a spray can of air freshener together, just think of the possibilites of THIS combo.

Loco

[thefish]

Pecards is a secret mixture that contains one or more of the following:

• kerosene
  propylene glycerole
  artificial sweeteners
  sulphuric acid
  rum
  acetone
  red dye #2
  scumm
  axle grease
  battery acid
  and/or pepperoni

As you can imagine, it's one of the most caustic, volatile substances known to man.

What about High Fructose Corn Syrup? Isn't that compulsory in anything that comes in a jar these days? Oh, wait...There it is at the bottom of the label after Monosodium Glutimate.

(and of course, Scumm, VP! The worlds first salad dressing AND foot ointment! ;-) )

Thanks for the info Loco. I wasn't exactly looking for a formula, (as I realize that you'd then have to kill me.) Just wandered exactly what was in it, as it is the only relatively CLEAR leather conditioner I've ever seen, (well the only clear leather conditioner thats worth a darn,) and just wandered how that worked.

As to the dogs eating it, there you go! Leather care is such a small nitche market. You should consider expanding into wider marketing avenues:

Pecards; It's a leather conditioner! It's a hair pomaide, (and it conditions the scalp too! Let's see Dapper Dan do that!) It's a stool softener! It's a skin moisturizer! And a million other household uses! It's so useful, we bear the Duck Tape seal of approval! Oh, wait...Pecard's been around for a long time. Hey! Maybe Duck Tape bears the Pecard seal of approval!

Enough! Happy New Year!

-Dan

[rick5150]

Hi Eric, good to see you here. I am still battling our friend at the Vintage Leather Jacket forum. I think we have moved past your product though and are discusisng the important things in life, like the pH of Vaseline.

Maybe you can market a flavored Pecard Dressing?

In all seriousness, I have had some success with a few drops of leather scented oil mixed in with both standard Pecard's Shoe and Boot Oil and the Pecard's Dressing. Not only does it bring life back to the old jackets, but it brings leather scent back with it.

[randystokes]

Pecards is a secret mixture that contains one or more of the following:

• kerosene
  propylene glycerole
  artificial sweeteners
  sulphuric acid
  rum
  acetone
  red dye #2
  scumm
  axle grease
  battery acid
  and/or pepperoni

As you can imagine, it's one of the most caustic, volatile substances known to man.

VP, you forgot eye of newt!

Actually, those in the know around here know the exact formula for Pecards, but if we told you, we'd have to kill you.

Randy