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Okay, for a relative newbie, WHICH pistol did Indy carry?

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:54 am
by Nevada Jones
Make, year, and model please.

Tnks! Nevada

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:45 pm
by Fatdutchman
Two revolvers were used. One was a S&W 1917 service revolver in .45acp/auto rim. The 5" barrel was cut down to 4" and a band type front sight installed. The other was another large frame S&W, visually similar, but this one had a rather modern looking ramp front sight installed. It was deemed close enough for movie work. This second gun supposedly was in .455. And, of course the Browning Hi Power 9mm used in the bar shootout and I think he had the same gun on the "Bantu Wind" (?).

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:51 pm
by Nevada Jones
Now THAT is a helpful response! Thanks Dutchman!

Nevada

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:41 pm
by Michaelson
http://www.indygear.com/faq/gunsfaq.shtml

and

http://www.indygear.com/gear/guns.shtml

Check the main site you'll find a LOT of your new member type questions answered there. That why there's a link in the upper right hand corner of the forum.

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:37 pm
by Michaelson
...and as YOU learned, Web, no good deed goes unpunished. :lol: :wink:

Regard! Michaelson

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:29 pm
by Rabittooth

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:06 pm
by Indiana G
your forgetting about his webley mkvi with the birds beak grips in last crusade.....chambered for the .455.

..and his DL-44 heavy blaster made by blastech....oops wrong movie....

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:27 am
by VP
The only pistol Indy carried was the Browning HP in Raiders. The others were revolvers.

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:28 am
by Michaelson
True. :tup:

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:02 am
by Magnum Jones
What's the difference :?: :?:

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:14 am
by VP
A revolver has that revolving chamber where the bullets are stored.

This is a revolver:

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And this is a pistol:

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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:15 am
by Rabittooth
Well...that may be true for gun enthusiasts and folks "in the know", but as far as the general English language definition- a pistol is a firearm that is held and fired with one hand. (a handgun). So...by definition...those are BOTH pistols.

-Rabittooth

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:33 am
by agent5
The defenitions are as follows:

Pistol - a handgun whose chamber is intregal with the barrel.
Intregal - c. formed as a unit with another part.


Here's the defenition of handgun:

Handgun - a firearm (as a revolver or pistol) designed to be held and fired with one hand.


Rab,
To this day I always thought as you do. I guess you learn something new every day. That's life, I guess.

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:33 am
by Rabittooth
Yeah. I didn't know that the gun folks made these classifications. To my way of thinking, a "revolver" should be a subset of the general class "pistol." Sam Colt called his invention a "revolving pistol"
Basically, it's any light hand held gun, as opposed to a shoulder fired weapon.

PISTOL- small hand-held firearm," c.1570, from M.Fr. pistole "short firearm" (1566), of uncertain origin, sometimes said to be from Ger. Pistole, from Czech pis'tala "firearm," lit. "tube, pipe," from pisteti "to whistle," of imitative origin, related to Rus. pischal "shepherd's pipe." But earlier form pistolet (1550) is from M.Fr. pistolet "a small firearm," also "a small dagger," which may be the literal sense; though some connect this word with It. pistolese, in reference to Pistoia, town in Tuscany noted for gunsmithing.

You can see quite a few definitions of the word here:

http://www.onelook.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/ ... ord=pistol

But if I'm wrong,...so be it. 8)

-Rabittooth

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:17 am
by agent5
But if I'm wrong,...so be it.
Hey, I'm right with you, man. :lol:

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:37 am
by randystokes
I'll be d**ned, I didn't know the difference. I mean, I knew what a revolver was, but always assumed it was a subclass of a more generic category of pistol.

The things we learn here!

Randy

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:26 pm
by Fatdutchman
A revolver is a pistol, but a pistol is not necessarily a revolver. :wink:

I don't know exactly when the idea that "a revolver is not a pistol" came about...I just have the feeling that it was invented some years ago by some hoity toity type...I always saw an air of arrogance in it.

My Pa and Sam Colt called 'em pistols...that's good enough for me!

Besides...they're actually called "hog legs"!!! :lol:

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:51 pm
by Magnum Jones
Some should set Merriam-Webster straight on the issue. They give the definition and I quote "pistol, a firearm held and fired with one hand."

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:21 pm
by binkmeisterRick
rjs3006 wrote:Some should set Merriam-Webster straight on the issue. They give the definition and I quote "pistol, a firearm held and fired with one hand."
So if I shoot my Winchester rifle with one hand, it becomes a pistol? :wink:

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:31 pm
by Kt Templar
binkmeisterRick wrote:
rjs3006 wrote:Some should set Merriam-Webster straight on the issue. They give the definition and I quote "pistol, a firearm held and fired with one hand."
So if I shoot my Winchester rifle with one hand, it becomes a pistol? :wink:
Just call I'm Duke! :)

In the back of my mind I remembered something about a pistol being a handled knife or something... so I wikied it and found this:
In the 15th century the term "pistol" was used for small knives and daggers which could be concealed in a person's clothing.
So the term changes over time. I know the 'technical' term is chambered pistol and revolver, but I know that most layman will term any handgun as a pistol. I do anyway, common usage and all that!

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:59 pm
by Magnum Jones
Could be?? but I think it would have to be on a friday, with a 230gr fmj. and no larger than .30cal. Mirriam-Webster is a little fuzzy on that one.

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:13 pm
by Michaelson
Just depends on where you say it too. I've had more than one armorer jump down my throat when I referred to a revolver as a pistol, so it's all in what school of training one came out of. Same thing will occur if you ever refer to a semi-auto magazine as a 'clip' in from of a professional armorer. Look out!! :shock:

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:18 pm
by VP
Just call them guns and magazines and everything will be fine.

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:24 pm
by randystokes
Michaelson wrote:Just depends on where you say it too. I've had more than one armorer jump down my throat when I referred to a revolver as a pistol, so it's all in what school of training one came out of. Same thing will occur if you ever refer to a semi-auto magazine as a 'clip' in from of a professional armorer. Look out!! :shock:

Regards! Michaelson
I bet they wouldn't argue if you were holding a pistol or revolver on them at the time. My response in their position: You could call it an artichoke and I wouldn't argue with you! :wink:

Randy

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:05 pm
by Michaelson
Well, if you don't bring a knife to my gun fight, I'll call it anything I want. :lol:

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:18 am
by dr. tyree
The term pistol is historically very old and is correct for either type of action. Applying it only to semi autos is a modern convention. Shakespeare used the term "pistol" in his works when referring to wheellocks. (see 12th Night and Henry IV)