Club Obi Wan

These measurements are virtually the same as my 57 Fed, which is closest to a 7 1/4. That thing in the bottom right hand corner of the second picture is a sculptors calipers, for measureing heads and stuff, so I could measure the hat while I was wearing it.. Seems reasonable to me the Raiders hat was a 7 1/4 with a 1 1/2 inch ribbon. Fedora's guy can do a better job, but I get a hair over 8 inches front to back and about 6 1/4 side to side, at the base of the crown.

My 7 1/4 hat blocks are 8 inches front to back, 6 1/2 side to side. This would be the inside measurement of a hat pulled off the block. Add the thickness of the felt and you would get the outside measurement of the hat. Fedora

Im thinking 3thou should get himself an AB and see what he can do to it

sam

My hat has a sewn pleat in the crown, which reduces the circumfrence of the crown, and I ironed the front of the crown turning it into brim, so my hat is smaller than a 57 / 7 1/4. .. That should cover the extra 1/4 inch in the side to side, Fedora. ( not that my measurements are accurate or my theories. ) ..... I noticed as I was posting, if you look at the head on shot above, a gap at the BOTTOM of the ribbon, where the pleat is. I'm pretty sure it's a sewn pleat to cause such strong signs. ........... My measurements are pretty sketchy- I hope David Garrison can do it right.

thanks to our local surveyor. Fedora

Wow, this is quite a revelation.

Fedora, are the current stock of AB's close to these dimensions? I recall you said you revamped your block (or bashing technique or something) once you realized the crowns on your hats were too high. Do your 7 1/4 size hats come in closer to these specs? I'm a size 7 3/8, so I would imagine this size would have dimesions a bit larger to compensate for the larger size, but I'm guessing a hat my size would still have a front pinch under 5 inches. Thoughts?

3thoubucks and Fedora, great work all around!

-GCR

Fedora, are the current stock of AB's close to these dimensions? I recall you said you revamped your block (or bashing technique or something) once you realized the crowns on your hats were too high. Do your 7 1/4 size hats come in closer to these specs? I'm a size 7 3/8, so I would imagine this size would have dimesions a bit larger to compensate for the larger size, but I'm guessing a hat my size would still have a front pinch under 5 inches. Thoughts?

I think for a 7 1/8 to 7 3/8 these dimensions work well. Below and above require adjustment of crown heights as well as brim dimensions. Of course facial shape enters into to it as well in regards to the brim. I strive to get my current hats to copy the above dimensions, all other things being equal. It is somewhat of an art to get the hat fitted just right to the person's head and facial shape. I don't always nail it. I never go above a 5 3/4 open crown height though, even for the larger hat sizes. Hats are weird things. You change the block shape and it affects other things like the brim widths. There is a balance that is hard to get, although I think I am pretty close. Even the way the dimensional cut is put on the brim affects the overall look. My dimensional cuts originated from a template taken from our Admin's HJ that Lee got for him years ago when Lee was selling HJs. It was done by Mr. Swales. So if my cuts are wrong, then so were his. I just try to make my transitions smoother than he did on the hats he sold us. He took more time with the film hats, as is obvious if you have seen his post film brim handiwork. Fedora

There's a problem with this shot. The ribbon width is measured at the front of the hat, and that measurement is used to guage the width of the hat, but the ribbon width diminishes due to perspective as it goes back along the sides. I measued the ribbon width as far back along the sides as possible, where it should be measured.. That explains the width discrepency.

There's a problem with this shot. The ribbon width is measured at the front of the hat, and that measurement is used to guage the width of the hat, but the ribbon width diminishes due to perspective as it goes back along the sides. I measued the ribbon width as far back along the sides as possible, where it should be measured.. That explains the width discrepency

I agree and David confessed as much as well I think. And also part of his measuement includes the bulging bow as well. Yours was a much better representation. I am sure David was busy and did this rather quickly, and better examples are to be had. Fedora