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most accurate leather

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:09 pm
by Toldog07
I know the lambskin was used in the films, but as we all know, its not the same leather that it was back then. Which of the leathers gives the best screen accurate appearance (without distressing) in terms of the way it looks, and drapes?

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:19 pm
by Michaelson
Of the leathers available, I'm still going to have to say Wested's goatskin. It's definitely softer than Flightsuits right out of the bag, and just gets softer with wear, so the proper draping shows immediately.


Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:17 pm
by Ark Hunter
So the goat drapes better than the lamb? :shock:

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:22 pm
by Michaelson
Hi Doc!

He's asking for a comparison to the ORIGINAL lamb...the one no longer available. Using THAT as the benchmark, my opinion is 'yes', it does drape as well as the ORIGINAL lamb.

I also preferenced my statement 'of the leathers available'. Personally, the only I've seen that drapes LIKE the original lamb was the lambtouch cowhide...but that one is no longer available in brown...only black. JMO

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:26 pm
by Ark Hunter
Hmm, interesting. So that would make the goat softer/more plyable than the currently available lamb?

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:49 pm
by Michaelson
Nope. Not saying that at all.

It's just that the physical weight of the original lambskin and the current lambskin are completely different. It's the actual weight of the leather that causes drape..the physical 'pull down'. The soft goatskin HAS that weight, as well as the softness to allow the curves we associate WITH that draping. The new lambskin is soft and good looking. The goatskin, though, compares very well in appearance with the original stuff.

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:50 pm
by Kentucky Blues
I don't know anything other than one of the currently offerered lambskins offered by wested (I own one, but not sure if its the dark brown or authentic) but I think Michaelson might be saying that the goatskin has the look (ie drape) of the orignal lamb moreso than the modern lamb does, but that doesn't necessarily mean that its softer than the modern lamb. The modern lamb could in fact be too soft for the original. You'll have to ask Michaelson what he means. Which you did.... this was just my interpretation on what he meant... but I'd like a confirmation by him, lol

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:53 pm
by Michaelson
Looks like my post beat yours by a minute, Blues, old friend! :lol: :wink:

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:53 pm
by Ark Hunter
You got it (one minute before your post) :lol:

Thanks for the explination M. Got it now.

Edit: and M and I posted the same time in reply. :lol:

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:58 pm
by Kentucky Blues
wow, I'm really late to do any timing thing now... oh well... I think I was right about what Michaelson said though... but I don't know if I made that clear in my post, lol.

Glad to know my next wested will have accurate drape,
Daryl

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:05 pm
by Michaelson
I can just see in my minds eye the three of us feverishly beating on our keyboards trying to get an answer in before the other guy! :lol:

Time to go to bed yet? :roll: :wink:

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:59 am
by Farnham54
GOAT GOAT GOAT....um...right....

Okay so I own a Lamb...but did I still win (or even compete) in the race? No? Crickets? Yeah Michaelson, definatley bed time :D

Cheers
Craig

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:38 am
by McFly
Do you still win a good looking INDY jacket if you have a lamb? It won't ever drape just like his, but will it ever look like his? (I mean besidesh [oops - Sean Connery] how it's the same exact pattern)

In Christ,
Shane

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:19 am
by Harrison_Davies
IndyMcFly wrote:Do you still win a good looking INDY jacket if you have a lamb? It won't ever drape just like his, but will it ever look like his? (I mean besidesh [oops - Sean Connery] how it's the same exact pattern)

In Christ,
Shane
Shucks, now you tell me..... ](*,)

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:25 am
by Michaelson
Let's review.....we're talking about comparison of the ORIGINAL jacket...the one made from the lambskin NO LONGER AVAILABLE.

That said.....sure...ANY good lambskin will drape beautifully. It's the nature of the material. In this case, the goatskin does drape like the heavier, NO longer available lambskin that Peter USED to use....but don't lose any sleep over the new lambskin. It's just fine, and drapes beautifully. After it's worn for a while and loosens up even more from wear, you won't be able to tell it from the original heavier version, as gravity will have it's way regardless. It will just take a little longer for the new lambskin to reach the level that the OLD lambskin, and the right out of the bag goatskin achieves.

That's all.

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:26 pm
by McFly
Ahh, I see. Okay - I understood we were talking about the older lambskin, I was just worried about my new jacket and was concerned that it wasn't as good as it could have been (meaning I could have gotten the goat) but that's alright. As long as in the end it looks alright too, that's fine.

In Christ,
Shane

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:28 pm
by Michaelson
ABSOLUTELY! Your lambskin will look perfect after you've worn it for a short period of time. They all have to take on the shape of a person's body shape, and the 'drape' can only occur from use.

You'll be pleased, I guarantee. :D

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:39 pm
by McFly
Lucky for me the weather is cooling down now, it's like... sleep-in-jacket weather. :D

Alright, so basically, the lamb now and the lamb then are still really good, but the older lamb developed the perfect drape sooner than the new lamb. Got it.

In Christ,
Shane

On a side note: I got a Raiders March hummed at me yesterday... and the only gear I was wearing were khakis and my jacket. The guy didn't even know me. I guess the jacket looks good. :) 8)

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:36 pm
by Toldog07
im sure it does..my lambskin drapes perfectly now! i love it. My next one is going to be screen accurate..i hope!!