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HJ Fedoras...price increase??

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:46 am
by Toldog07
I just emailed Swaine, Adney, Brigg about the price for the indy fedora...the hat alone is 165 pounds, plus 28 pounds for shipping to the US. In US dollars thats almost 400!!! has it always been that much when ordering from them?? also, how is todd able to sell his for 240??

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:16 pm
by Dakota Ellison
He gets them wholesale from the factory, not the retail store.

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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:53 pm
by BendingOak
I just emailed Swaine, Adney, Brigg about the price for the indy fedora...the hat alone is 165 pounds, plus 28 pounds for shipping to the US. In US dollars thats almost 400!!
the question shoudln't be how todd is doing it?

It should be how Swaine,adney, brigg is doing it?

Re: hat

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:17 pm
by Kt Templar
BendingOak wrote:
I just emailed Swaine, Adney, Brigg about the price for the indy fedora...the hat alone is 165 pounds, plus 28 pounds for shipping to the US. In US dollars thats almost 400!!
the question shoudln't be how todd is doing it?

It should be how Swaine,adney, brigg is doing it?
This is the same argument we've been having in the jacket thread, in reverse.

The price has very little to do with the actual cost, the retailer often will charge what the market will accept.

e.g. Aldens.

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:25 pm
by Bufflehead Jones
Yeah, I guess they found out that my market wouldn't accept it.

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:26 pm
by Michaelson
It also depends on where you're standing at the time of the sale.

Case in point...Akubra. If you want to buy a fine fedora or like Akubra, you go to HatsDirect and order one. Now, if you go to a U.S. firm, like David Morgan for instance, that same hat will cost you in many cases twice the amount, if not more.

In the case of the Akubra, you're paying less due to the exchange rate between the stronger USD and the Aussie dollar.

In HJ's case, you're paying for the strong Pound vs. the USD, HJ's overhead vs. Todd's non-storefront costs, as well as paying for the 'prestige' of owning an HJ that is in operation by official blessing of the Crown. Otherwise, you're talking about exactly the same hat (with the exception that Todd's is 'created' by a fan FOR other fans, rather than a haberdasher located in London who could really care less. :wink: )

To paraphrase what KT said above....it's all in what the market will bear, and like I said, depends on where you're standing at the time of the sale.

Regards! Michaelson

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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:32 pm
by BendingOak
yes, most is over priced.

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:38 pm
by Bufflehead Jones
Michaelson wrote:and like I said, depends on where you're standing at the time of the sale.

Regards! Michaelson
:-k ...ummmm...Actually, I was sitting at the computer when I ordered mine from Todd. #-o

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:40 pm
by Michaelson
Well, us older guys ARE allowed THAT much leeway.... :-k :wink:

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:27 pm
by Bufflehead Jones
....ain't that the dang truth!

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:22 pm
by Arkansas Smith
how about a 'YEAH TODD' here! :D

Arkansas Smith

Re: hat

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:35 pm
by Rundquist
Kt Templar wrote:
This is the same argument we've been having in the jacket thread, in reverse.

The price has very little to do with the actual cost, the retailer often will charge what the market will accept.

e.g. Aldens.

Actually if there was one piece of gear that was worth the money I would say it’s the Aldens. Those are handmade orthopedic boots made the old fashioned way. They’re worth every penny. I’ve worn cheap shoes and I’ll never go back. Cheers

Re: hat

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:26 pm
by Kt Templar
Rundquist wrote:
Kt Templar wrote:
This is the same argument we've been having in the jacket thread, in reverse.

The price has very little to do with the actual cost, the retailer often will charge what the market will accept.

e.g. Aldens.

Actually if there was one piece of gear that was worth the money I would say it’s the Aldens. Those are handmade orthopedic boots made the old fashioned way. They’re worth every penny. I’ve worn cheap shoes and I’ll never go back. Cheers
That they probably are. Though I suspect they were just as good at $240 in 2002. At that time a Wested was £140. Today they are £145. Aldens are £290.

Re: hat

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:03 pm
by Rundquist
Kt Templar wrote:
Rundquist wrote:
Kt Templar wrote:
This is the same argument we've been having in the jacket thread, in reverse.

The price has very little to do with the actual cost, the retailer often will charge what the market will accept.

e.g. Aldens.

Actually if there was one piece of gear that was worth the money I would say it’s the Aldens. Those are handmade orthopedic boots made the old fashioned way. They’re worth every penny. I’ve worn cheap shoes and I’ll never go back. Cheers
That they probably are. Though I suspect they were just as good at $240 in 2002. At that time a Wested was £140. Today they are £145. Aldens are £290.
And I'm sure that they were just as good in the 70's when they were probably $100. Wested has hardly changed their prices in 10 years. That doesn't mean that inflation in the world hasn't occurred.

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:09 am
by Ghos7a55assin
Over the summer I was interning in the fashion industry and I have found that the wholesale price is often half the retail price. Being a high-end brand, I found that wholesale, something maybe only be like $98 but cost like $200+ at Nordstrom's. This is reflected in Todd's and S.A.B.'s pricing- Todd's pricing is a little more than half of Swaine Addeney Brigg's.