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What is the best? I want something durable.

So should I go all-cotton, cotton with satin sleeves, or all-satin?

Kodiak, up in your area, you'll be right either way you go, though I lean just a bit more toward the all cotton lining. Remember, I'm originall from Southern Ohio, so I KNOW the kind of climate you live in. I currently own one with the cotton/satin combination, and it's a GREAT jacket for long sleeve weather, as the sleeves are easier to slide over your long sleeve shirt sleeves, but the cotton body keeps the jacket in place over your shirt.

All satin linings tend to slide down and OFF your shoulders. Ick. I hated that (owned one of them once too!). They go on easy, but man after that it's a constant fight to keep them on (at least that was my experience. Flat wore me out to wear it...even zipped. )

Down side is that the satin sleeves are a bear when you're wearing short sleeves and get a bit warm. They tend to stick to you, and make it REALLY warm and uncomfortable to remove. The all cotton, though a bit cumbersome to pull over long sleeves, are really a point ahead over all on my score sheet.

Oh, why do I like the all cotton, but own the combination instead? Mine was received from a VERY old friend here at gear, and was one of the first goatskin jackets Wested ever made. Peter pulled out all the stops to make it, and I'm proud to have it in my stable. Otherwise, I always request all cotton linings in my dealings with Wested.

JMO, though.

Regards! Michaelson

I didn't know you were from Ohio... but yes, I would like something warm, easy to go over long sleeves, but I also wear short sleeves in winter...

I think I'll probably go with my good buddy Indiana's original suggestion (and the venerable Knower of Things suggestion as well) and go with the all-cotton, but I'm still curious to hear other opinions.

-Kodiak

EDIT- folks, please ignore that poll. The editor page won't let me change the poll options to add "all-satin" so just give me opinions, please.

Well, I have no experience with an "all satin"-lining in a Wested, but own several Flightjackets of that type.

You said, you want something durable? Then, I would think about all satin, as my (and others) cotton lining tends to ... how to say it ... became lots of "holes" because of abrasion. I guess the satin lining will be more durable ...

Only "not-as-good" things are the issues Michaelson mentioned ...


-- Jens

I own a Wested lambskin with all silk linning for about a year and a half. I just recieved my secound Wested ( cowhide with all cotton). I went with cowhide and cotton linning because I wanted something that could be used in colder weather. I haven't had a problem with the lambskin but I think Michaelson could be correct about it sliding off ( I'll have to check next time I wear it). I never wore my lambskin jacket without a shirt so I can't help you wit that one. I havent worn the cowhide yet , it's to hot for a jacket right know.

Kodiak wrote:
EDIT- folks, please ignore that poll. The editor page won't let me change the poll options to add "all-satin" so just give me opinions, please.

I've added it for you, so DON'T ignore the poll.

Regards! Michaelson

I really like the cotton body/ satin sleeve combination. I don't sweat much, so the satin sleeves don't bother me at all, even if I just have a t shirt on. If you sweat heavily on your arms, the satin sleeves will stick to you a bit. If it is hot enough for me to really be sweating on my arms, it is way to hot to be wearing a jacket in the first place. It would be hot enough to make you pass out wearing a leather jacket.

The cotton body does help the jacket stay in place as others have said. I never even feel the cotton body as it is next to my shirt and not my skin. The cotton does breathe better and helps keep your upper body cooler and doesn't make you sweat the way the satin in the body would. The satin sleeves, if they contact my skin have a very smooth, luxurious feel to them. The satin sleeves slide over your shirt when you put on the jacket. The cotton sleeves will grab your shirt sleeve and make it ride up while you are putting on your jacket. My vote is for the combo. It is the best of both worlds.

Personally, I like that all cotton lining. I find with the cotton lining I can wear my jacket on rainy days when the temp is 70 or so without melting or the lining sticking to me. That doesn't work too well with my satin lined A-2.

I have the combo lining...works fine for me. If you hate getting long sleeves bunched up when you put your jacket on, go with the satin sleeves. You shouldn't have to worry about the satin sticking to your arms unless you plan on going hardcore and wear this in temps well above 70 deg.

I travel to Louisville quite often for work and you would have to be nuts to wear any leather coat there from May to October - too hot & humid

I have an all satin lining in my current jacket. It is very comfortable to wear though I do wind up having to do the shoulder shrug. I really do like the silky luxury feel of the satin. However, because of the shoulder thing, my next one will likely have the satin sleeves cotton body combo. I don't wear it in temperatures when I might end up with sweaty arms.

I've had it for a year now and havent had any of the fragility problems that Indiana noted.

I have cotton body/satin sleeves on my jacket, and I have to say that is the best option. no problem getting it on over a long-sleeve shirt. Whenever I've worn it with a short-sleeve shirt I've been pretty comfortable as well, and only experienced sweaty discomfort a couple times (and even then it was minor). :junior: -IJ

Michaelson wrote:I've added it for you, so DON'T ignore the poll.

Ah... the power of knowledge (and computer skills )

BJones wrote:I travel to Louisville quite often for work and you would have to be nuts to wear any leather coat there from May to October - too hot & humid

Louisville is further south than me by about 50 miles, but October and even September are very cold on some nights and early mornings. I wear my current jacket September-April.

Thank you all for your opinions. I don't think I will go all-satin just because of the "shoulder shrug". All cotton sounds okay, but I am likely to wear it with short sleeves or long sleeves rolled up (my favorite style) so I will probably go cotton body/satin arms. Still, I appreciate any other opinions.

-Kodiak

Alright , I tied on my Raiders jacket with silk lining and walked around the house for awhile. Just to see about the sliding off bit. I don't find it sliding off and I don't ever remember it sliding off either. It must of looked funny ( if you looked in the windo seeing this guy walking around wearing a leather jacket)( AC turned way up). I guess my shoulders don't slope or something because, I just don't find it sliding.

BendingOak wrote:Alright , I tied on my Raiders jacket with silk lining and walked around the house for awhile. Just to see about the sliding off bit. I don't find it sliding off and I don't ever remember it sliding off either. It must of looked funny ( if you looked in the windo seeing this guy walking around wearing a leather jacket)( AC turned way up). I guess my shoulders don't slope or something because, I just don't find it sliding.

I think you make a good point. The sliding thing may have a lot to do with body type. My A-2 is satin lined and I've never had any trouble with it. In fact, I like the satin lining. its just that it get a bit sticky on a warm day.

its just that it get a bit sticky on a warm day.

jweaver, um take off the jacket kid.

Only thing is the satin seems prone to tearing on things like: fingernails; wristwatches; keys; baby rattlesnakes; rabid leprechauns, etc.

one, your right about the satin. I already had to have it repared once. I'm a lot more carefull about putting my jacket on if I have a watch or braclet, etc.

BendingOak wrote:

its just that it get a bit sticky on a warm day.

jweaver, um take off the jacket kid.

Good point. Let me clarify what I meant. I tend to use my jacket as a rain coat all year long, unless its just too bloody hot or I know I'll be out for a while. Its really quite amazing how much rain it takes for goatskin to start soaking up any water. Anywho, the cotton is more comfortable when the temp starts to get above 60. Or on one of those days when it a bit warm with a jacket, but a bit cool with out one.

I know, i just wanted to mess with you. ha.

And that your good at.

I am from the north part of your state and it gets pretty cold up here by the lake and I do fine with the combo. Michaelson, wise man that he is, is right about the satin sleeves though. They are great during the cold weather when I am pulling the jacket over a long sleeve shirt, but they tend to stick to my arms when I wear it over just a t-shirt. Overall though, I am so happy to just have the jacket that it could have fiberglass sleeves and I think I'd still be okay with it.

cotton all the way. regards hanson.

I must say, I voted on the combo lining....and then went to inspect my wested and found that the **** seam on the right arm lining @ where the cotton meets the satin had torn! And I have NO IDEA how it happened! I have had it only for a few months and haven't even worn it outside yet!(too hot)! I want to change my vote to all cotton.

The cotton was fine...the satin part was all torn to **** and was a real pain to sew back together. (all I had was bright green thread too!)
-GC

Has anybody thought about Cotton Lining in the sleeves and rest Satin lining? I think this would be rather cool.

Greets

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Don't go with all satin. I did that and now five years later, the lining is falling apart BIGTIME. Cotton body is going to be more durable. The satin sleeves will be good, though, because it'll prevent your shirt from bunching up when it catches on the cotton.

Order some polyester twill lining from Gibson and Barnes and send it to Wested. It's more duable than satin, doesn't have the slip problem(at least mine doesn't).

TR

T.R., how much material does Wested recommend you send them, to line one of their jackets?
'Blues