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oh, the pain!
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:11 pm
by Gater
Tomorrow I am participating in a big Geocache competition. Basically, there are a few hundred caches hidden throughout the city and surrounding areas, and everybody has 24 hrs to find as many as possible. Kinda like a scavenger hunt, but with billion dollar satellites. Anyhoo, since my Wested pre-d cow and Fed D are my 'trademark' in the local geocache community, I decided that it was time to Pecards the ol' girl, to make sure that all of the abuse she takes tomorrow won't hurt too much. Trudging thru caves, forests and the muck can be common-place for geocaching. It took over an hour and my fingers are CRAMPED! But I took a mid-dressing pic to show the colour difference. I don't much like how light the cowhide is, but the Pecards darkens it up nicely.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:29 pm
by Kaplan
looks nice! Does the shine go away after you wipe off the excess? Or are you stuck with it for a while?
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:35 pm
by Michaelson
Just curious, Gater...why are your fingers cramped? As advised by David Morgan years ago, I apply mine bare handed using the flat of my palm to rub the Pecards into the leather, and once rubbed in and allowed to soak in, I buff it off with an old clean cotton tee shirt.
Finger cramps?

Interesting.
It does give the old jacket that nice rich mahogny color, doesn't it?
High regards! Michaelson
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:41 pm
by PLATON
Fellas, can any of you remind me where I can buy pecard's online?
www.pecard.com is down and I can't find anything...
(I used some product by timberland but that's another story I will tell in the distressing gear section)
brgds,
Platon
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:42 pm
by Michaelson
It works for me, and from your link.
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:04 pm
by Michaelson
If you take a look at the treated jacket of _'s on the main IG page, THAT'S what a pre-distressed cowhide jacket looks like after a complete Pecarding and buffing.....and it holds for quite a while too.
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:22 pm
by PLATON
Michaelson
Oh yeah, it works now thanks man. (I tried several times before and the page wouldn't open)
So which is the right product again?
The Antique/Restoration Dressing?
Please give me some light.
brgds,
Platon
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:27 pm
by Michaelson
Go to the top of this section and click on the stickied post by Leather_Loco of Pecards. Click on HIS link at the bottom of his post and follow the product suggestions in his write up for Indyfans on each item of leather gear.
He's the VP for research of Pecards, and a member of this forum.
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:29 pm
by Gater
Michaelson,
I have not heard of the bare-hands approach...I use a special lambskin chamois designed buffing cars without scratching. I use one half for Westeds and half for my DM.
I fold the chamois into a corner, then apply the Pecards in small doses, and work it in well, then buff off the excess. Hence, finger cramps.
By using th bare hands method, for how long do you stink like pecards??
I will say that after I finished and hung it to dry, it was a lot heavier than it was before I started!
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:35 pm
by Michaelson
Ah, I see.
Well, I, too, started out that way when I got my first container of Pecards, but thought there HAD to be a better way. I called Mr. Morgan and asked HIM if that was the way to do it. He actually laughed in my ear, and asked ME 'WHY?!' He then told me to just scoop a small amount out with my fingers and just rub it in with my bare hands.
That's what I've done ever since. You can actually feel what areas of your jacket need more Pecards that others as you can feel what's going on in the bare hand application. It's REAL fun to get off your hands too, but if you use Lava soap, or like product, it comes right off....and actually leaves you hands in nice shape too!
Stink of Pecards? I have never detected any odor, so that's not a question I can answer, and after washing up, there's no odor what so ever.

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You'll also be able to completely treat your jacket in less than 15 minutes. I know....that's all it has ever taken me, but I've applied a LOT of Pecards on jackets over the years now. (grins)
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:38 pm
by Gater
well, I was also going to do my lambskin today, but changed my mind. Maybe when I go to do it next week, I'll give this a try.
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:43 pm
by Michaelson
Go easy, though. You'll find out that you can pick up a LOT more Pecards in your bare hand than when using a cloth, and you could end up really saturating a jacket, and have a LOT of buffing to do after a few days to remove the excess.
Did I ever do that before? Who, ME? Do something like THAT? WHY, uh, well...........maybe.
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:01 pm
by VP
Michaelson wrote:He's the VP for research of Pecards
I thought he's the Michaelson for research of Pecards.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:05 pm
by Michaelson

Well said, VP....well said.
High regards! Michaelson
(Of course, in this case VP stands for vice president....but then you knew that.

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:11 pm
by Gater
Hey VP, you forgot to post a link to another thread indicating Michaelson's status as Pecards researcher.
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:14 pm
by VP
When I search for Michaelson's posts in the Gear Care & Distressing table that have the word pecard in them, I get 117 results. No point in posting 'em all.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:22 pm
by Michaelson

I TOLD you guys I was windy. That's also not counting the ones that have been deleted over the years, VP!
(117 posts? I KNEW I should have asked Eric for commissions.

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Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:49 pm
by Bufflehead Jones
Michaelson wrote:You can actually feel what areas of your jacket need more Pecards that others as you can feel what's going on in the bare hand application. It's REAL fun to get off your hands too, but if you use Lava soap, or like product, it comes right off....and actually leaves you hands in nice shape too!
Regards! Michaelson
I also like the way water beads up on my hands like a freshly waxed car.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:51 pm
by Bufflehead Jones
Indiana Gater wrote:well, I was also going to do my lambskin today, but changed my mind. Maybe when I go to do it next week, I'll give this a try.
I thought you were supposed to use Pecards Lotion on lambskin and not regular Pecards.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:56 pm
by Michaelson
That's been the best results, as lambskin has such tight pores and grain, it doesn't soak in as easily....BUT, that said, I have recently had good luck with really LIGHT applications of standard Pecards on lambskin (specifically an FS lambskin A-2)...and I MEAN light....and it's worked ok.
Like I said, go easy! To heavy on lambskin, and you're in for a REALLY long clean up, if it will clean up at all.
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:20 pm
by Gater
good to know! I'm glad I didn't try it, after all. I do have lotion and cream for leather, so maybe I'll give it a go, instead.
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:23 pm
by Bufflehead Jones
Yeah, and I just hate when someone wears a jacket that looks tacky.
That is a double entendre that only a true Pecards connoisseur will understand.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:23 pm
by Indiana Jerry
Bufflehead Jones wrote:Michaelson wrote:You can actually feel what areas of your jacket need more Pecards that others as you can feel what's going on in the bare hand application. It's REAL fun to get off your hands too, but if you use Lava soap, or like product, it comes right off....and actually leaves you hands in nice shape too!
Regards! Michaelson
I also like the way water beads up on my hands like a freshly waxed car.

Darn...should have used that before changing diapers, then. (Erk.)
Gater, at first I thought you were going to say that picture showed as far as you got before running out of pecards, and now you were going to have to LEAVE YOUR TRADEMARK JACKET BEHIND or go as 'Two-Tone Jones'.
Now THERE'S a look for the undecided...one half distressed, one half pristine...

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:53 pm
by Gater
If it came to that Jerry, I would have used the lambskin, but I try to keep the cowhide for 'adventures' and the lambskin for a 'nice' jacket.
The back of the cow has a few nice scratches from trees and bushwacking, but they don't come out well on film.
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:03 pm
by J_Weaver
Indiana Jerry wrote:Gater, at first I thought you were going to say that picture showed as far as you got before running out of pecards, and now you were going to have to LEAVE YOUR TRADEMARK JACKET BEHIND or go as 'Two-Tone Jones'.
'Two-Tone Jones'
HAHAHA! Thats the funniest thing I've heard in a while!

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:17 am
by astroboy
Amount of time the Pecards holds would be dependengt on the activity and weather conditions?...
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:55 pm
by Gater
well, I think the effort was worth it all. This is a pic, pre-treated, taken with a flash. It is really light brown, and not too Indy-esque
Then yesterday, in sunlight, with flash, you can see how much darker the Picards makes the leather. MUCH better!
