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A 2.99 toy gun converted S&W finished new pics
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:06 pm
by S William
I hope this is in the right spot, considering it can also be put in the props section.
I wanted to replicate as closely as I could Indy's S&W from Raiders using a cheap toy gun. I found the following gun (12" Magnum Clicker Gun) at
http://www.costumesinc.com/c119_g381/se ... _guns.html?
Here is a photo of it when I first got it...
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 60dda7.jpg
I cut down the barrel to 4" with a hack saw, using an exacto Knife I cut the sight off, sanded off "Made in China", toys logo, and numbers. ( a bonus was that the gun has the S & W logo on it. I made new hand grips out of poplar, filled all holes, sanded, attached sight to shortened barrel, laquered, ect. and here is what it looks like now.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_0261.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_0262.jpg
What do you think?
S William
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:34 pm
by IndyTaz
Hey that looks really good mate:) Not bad for 2.99...you did a great job there. At least you won't have problems like I have. With customs. Unless you send it to yourself
You going to replicate the grip pattern and the missing blueing on the barrel too?
Cutting out through the front of the cylinder as well?
Admiration
TAZ
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:52 pm
by Gater
Good job. The 'Dollar Store' revolver has been an Indy-conversion fave for a while
viewtopic.php?t=4615&highlight=dollar+store+revolver
viewtopic.php?t=10023&highlight=dollar+store+revolver
viewtopic.php?t=6558&highlight=dollar+store+revolver
to show a few threads on the subject. I really like what you did with yours
2.99 gun.
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:14 pm
by Capt_Zak
Holy @#$%! Looks great! And the price? 2.99? You couldn't pass that up.
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:30 am
by Swindiana
I'm converting a new one of those into a Colt M1917 look-alike right now.
I got mine for about $1.75 and will let you know how it turns out.
Regards,
Swindiana
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:40 am
by Rabittooth
Amazing job. Very good work!
-Rabittooth
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:47 pm
by Hemingway Jones
You should go into business. That was an amazing job, especially with the grips. I am impressed.
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:12 pm
by S William
Thank you, I actually am still working on the grips, I am not pleased with the grip pattern, but because of Indiana Gater's post I have an idea on how to make them better, stay tuned...
S William
P.S. It was the first time I ever atempted to make grips, mass production grips have a press that presses the pattern into them.
New pics of hand grips
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:42 am
by S William
Here is an updated pic the first showing the before and of course the second showing the updated version of the hand grips.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_0262.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_0270.jpg
S William
P. S. It still is a work in progress...
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:20 am
by Swindiana
Looking good!
I've come so far as removing front and rear sight on mine, rounding off the barrel and filling it with putty for weight and removal of the holes. (Can a hole be removed?) The putty was also necessary since the plastic isn't solid. I also replaced the front sight with a Colt NS look-alike. I then used primer, som silver paint and black spray paint. All there is left to do now is some distressing and adding of wooden grips.
We'll see...
Regards,
Swindiana
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:06 pm
by S William
Post those pictures Swindiana...
S William
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:44 am
by Swindiana
I will buddy, I will.
Regards,
Swindiana
finally finished
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:36 pm
by S William
Here are the pics of the above gun with the addition of "distressing" and Cutting out through the front of the cylinder I will post the transformation in order, with the last three being the final product. The last photo also has a few other pieces of gear.
Toy Gun
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 60dda7.jpg
Barrel cut down new wooden handles put on
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_0262.jpg
Grip pattern added to grips and Gold paint applied to top of grips
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_0270.jpg
Final three pics after cutting around cylinder, and dry brushing with silver to give rustic look
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_0279.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_0281.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 0_0273.jpg
Thank you for taking a look,
S William
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:42 pm
by Indakin
wow that looks great man. Does the gun fire caps or anything? I might play with the gun toy gun i have, but mine makes electronic shooting sounds, so i dont wanna mess that up.
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:56 pm
by cokewithvanilla
that’s probably good enough to get shot if you point it at a cop! well... in certain areas that wouldn’t be much of a compliment... but you certainly did a good job on it.. I like the picture of it next to the holster... very nice, I admire your craftsmanship.
John
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:57 pm
by Ark Hunter
Good work! Good paint job too.
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:17 pm
by S William
I was told by those at work the same thing about the cop shooting at me if I showed it in public. Thank you for your compliments.
S William
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:24 pm
by Swindiana
How thick were/are your grips and did yo have to make a "step" in the wood under the part where the medallion is to make it fit?
Yours look good, and the piece of wood I'm gonna use that I have at home WILL need some trimming. I'm just not sure how thick they'll need to be since the metal part of an original gun seems to be thicker than this toy version. Hopefully I will have time to finish mine next week and I'll post some pics.
Regards,
Swindiana
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:46 pm
by S William
The gun is a clicker gun, not a cap gun.
The grip thickness at the bottom starts at 1/2" and tapers to 1/8" at top. Here are the steps I made to make the handles
First I plained down my poplar board to 1/2" thick
I then traced the handle frame onto the board (this trace will be the back of the grips) the medallions are not even a part of this step, make the grips straight along the top.
Next I cut the the grips out with a small bandsaw staying about 1/8" outside the line all the way around
I then used the horizontal belt sander and sanded to the traced lines
On top side veiw (thickness) of the grip I put my 1/8" mark and drew a line from the bottom to the top, this will be diagonal
Then I sanded to this line (this is where you must really hold onto the handle due to the belt sanders speed and wood thinness, and watch you don't sand off your fingers)
I then sanded the edges of the grips round
Next I took a strip of poplar about 1/16 thick and cut out two 1/2" rounds ( I have a small cnc machine at work I did these on) for the medalions
I then traced those on the top of the handle and dremeled out about 1/16" of material out of the top of the handle in the shape of half the medalions
Afterword I glued those on and let them dry.
I then sanded them down a small bit to make them blend in with the top of the grips
My next step was to attach the grips to the gun using a small bolt and nut
I then did a final sand on the edges so the grips would match the frame
The final two steps were to cut out the patterns on the original plastic grips and fit them to the center of the wood grips using the dremel tool to cut out a recess in the wood grips and recess the plastic grip pattern into the handle. I used J B Weld to affix the plastic to the wood, so in other words the handles will never come off.
I have made a drawing of the steps, here they are
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/ ... 3ebe62.jpg
The drawing isn't that big, sorry.
S William
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:03 am
by Swindiana
Thanks for sharing. Good info.
My grips will probably be a bit simpler to make since the Colt NS look I'm going for has a non-patterned grip with a no medallion feature. I don't have a belt sander at home and will probably to a rough saw-out and then carve and sandpaper by hand.
Regards.
Swindiana
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:47 am
by S William
Swindiana,
Then your method should work just fine, I forgot your doing the Colt NS.
S William
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:03 am
by Swindiana
It's all good buddy!
I was curious they looked so good anyway.
Regards,
Swindiana
$1.00 store gun question
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:26 am
by DocIndyJones
Could you by chance walk through how and where you cut the barrel down, how you replaced the sight and what not as I will be trying to do this tomorrow afternoon in order to get ready for this weekend. Thank you in advance.
-Doc