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Pounce Bag & Fullers Earth = Awsome!
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:14 pm
by Ark Hunter
I bought some natural fullers earth and made a pounce bag out of an old t-shirt. Just dumped some fullers into the center of an approxamatly 12"x8" piece of the T-shirt and folded it and tied it up to make a little bag, so the only way it'll come out is through the cloth. (loose weave)
I patted it on my jacket and it works great! Fullers earth sticks amazingly well to the leather. You can just brush it off. You have to get a wet towel or something.
This is an easy way to "distress" your jacket and be able to undo the distressed look if you want to.
Only down side it it was rather expensive stuff. (about $20 shipped for a pound of fullers earth)
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:45 pm
by Rusty Jones
Mind if I ask where you got it from? I'm looking to getting some myself...
I searched and didnt get the answer
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:08 pm
by G-MANN
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:40 pm
by Ark Hunter
Yep, that's where I got mine. I also found this place.
http://www.wardrobesupplies.com/store/m2_agepowder.html
You can buy the bag and fullers there if you don't feel like making the pounce bag.
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:41 pm
by Rusty Jones
Thanks, I appreciate the links
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:33 pm
by IndianaRedmon
Thanks Fellas for the links to sites that sell fullers earth. I've been looking for some also.
Thanks again
Indiana Redmon
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:57 pm
by Hemingway Jones
But is it "Michaelson Approved?" The Seal of Good Distressing.
If you have photos, please share.

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:14 pm
by Ark Hunter
I don't know. Is non-destructive distressing "Michaelson Approved?"
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:20 am
by Strider
G-MANN, you're getting to be faster on the draw than ol' VP with the links!

Thanks for the link, I've been wondering where to get me some of this stuff too.
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:14 am
by G-MANN
Strider wrote:G-MANN, you're getting to be faster on the draw than ol' VP with the links!

Thanks for the link, I've been wondering where to get me some of this stuff too.
Thanks Man, but I don't think I will ever get quite as good at it as VP.
Remember.............VP is COOL
Cheers,
G-MANN
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:01 pm
by Indiana Jerry
Ooh...the 50 lb. bag is a good bulk buy...

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:55 pm
by Jordan
Indiana Jerry wrote:Ooh...the 50 lb. bag is a good bulk buy...

Yeah, I went ahead and bought 600 lbs of the stuff just in case...Never know when you might want to distress the whole house!

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:35 am
by Ark Hunter
Riverwind wrote:Indiana Jerry wrote:Ooh...the 50 lb. bag is a good bulk buy...

Yeah, I went ahead and bought 600 lbs of the stuff just in case...Never know when you might want to distress the whole house!

Yes, I'm recreating THE SAHRA in my living room! I'll take two.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:17 pm
by Rusty Jones
IndyDoc wrote:Riverwind wrote:Indiana Jerry wrote:Ooh...the 50 lb. bag is a good bulk buy...

Yeah, I went ahead and bought 600 lbs of the stuff just in case...Never know when you might want to distress the whole house!

Yes, I'm recreating THE SAHRA in my living room! I'll take two.

Heh I wont, but if I ever end up with enough money, I'm DEFINATLY gonna try and create a screen acurate Tanis Digsite in a room of my house... or if I get the snakes maybe a Well of the Souls...
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:09 am
by astroboy
What is the fullers supposed to acheive on the jacket??
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:27 am
by VP
G-MANN wrote:Remember.............VP is COOL
Aye.

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:33 pm
by Captain D
The "Natural" shade is the correct type of Fuller's Earth to use on the fedora because it contains no harmful dyes...is that correct? I have an Adventurebilt beaver-felt hat. So, this stuff (the Natural shade) is okay and safe to use on the beaver-felt?
Thank you for any replies,
Captain D
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 1:25 am
by Strider
G-MANN used it on his, and everything seems to be just fine with it. IndyDoc, what kind of shirt do you use to make this pounce bag? "Loose weave" just isn't giving me any pictures in my head.
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:54 am
by Ark Hunter
I bought some natural fullers earth and made a pounce bag out of an old t-shirt.
I just used an old t-shirt. It seems to work. Maybe a dark color if you want to see how much is coming through. I also read those shop rags you can buy at the store work well too. (Assuming they don't have anything else on them.) I think they are basicly the same as t-shirts though.
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:13 am
by Mojave Jack
I have a great source of dirt, and it's free (my backyard)!
I have trouble keeping the stuff
off my gear. My boots are pretty much continuously covered with dust. Every time I put a treatment on them, it only lasts until the next time I step out into my yard. Actually, everything around here is pretty much continually covered in dust, the furniture, the floor, my truck.... Drives Mrs. Mojave nuts trying to keep the house clean.
What exactly
is Fullers Earth, and how is it different from regular dirt?
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:51 am
by Ark Hunter
I don't really know exactly. I've heard it's processed dirt, I've heard it's not real dirt, and I've heard it won't turn to mud if you get it wet. I know it's really fine though. Very dusty.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:31 pm
by Strider
It's just costume dirt. A powder of sorts, like baby powder. So just any old random t shirt will work? I have a few big rags that I made from white t-shirts over the years. Those work?
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:57 pm
by Kt Templar
It's just really clean clay.
"Fuller’s Earth is a naturally occurring sedimentary clay composed mainly of alumina, silica, iron oxides, lime, magnesia, and water, in extremely variable proportions."
I did a web trawl apparently some mechanics use it to clean up oil spills.... maybe this is another much cheaper source!
http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/learn/fullers.php
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 1:37 pm
by rick5150
IndyDoc wrote:I don't really know exactly. I've heard it's processed dirt, I've heard it's not real dirt, and I've heard it won't turn to mud if you get it wet. I know it's really fine though. Very dusty.

It is like wheat flour in appearance. If you oversaturate it, it gets muddy. The stuff I have does anyways.
I also use that for soaking up environmental spills as well, although the stuff for that use is a lot larger and coarser in size.
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 1:57 pm
by Mojave Jack
So I basically live in a huge expanse of Fullers Earth? And I get my living room distressed a little bit every day, too. Cool.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:16 pm
by Fletch
I just bought simple generic cat litter and ground it up with a morter and pestle and get a great effect. It is just comprised of small clay chips and when pulverized is grey/tan in color. Anyway, likely the same stuff and cheaper and local too!
Fletch
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:25 pm
by Strider
I don't think 20 bucks is that bad, seeing as how I got 3 pounds of Fuller's from Cine Shoppe. It comes in this jug. I mean, sheesh. How long will that last? A while! I guess I'm just one of those people that is OK with paying more for something if I know exactly where I am getting it from and exactly what it is before I buy.
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 5:29 pm
by Kt Templar
Fletch wrote:I just bought simple generic cat litter and ground it up with a morter and pestle and get a great effect. It is just comprised of small clay chips and when pulverized is grey/tan in color. Anyway, likely the same stuff and cheaper and local too!
Fletch
Yes, the clay kitty litter is the same stuff, you just have to get past that mental block thing that you are putting KITTY LITTER on your gear!
That along with the fact that you never usually know what kind of litter you are getting until you open the bag. The white gravelly stuff isn't right nor the compressed sawdust. (I have 2 cats lol).
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:02 pm
by Fletch
Yep, my friend in FX school told me it was the same and that is why I went out and bought it. Be sure to get the clay chip kind with no scent or extra absorbancy additives. I think I got a 3 pound bag for like 3 bucks or something like that last year. It just so happened to be the cheap generic stuff. Just for the do it yourselfers who are impatient like me

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:06 pm
by Michaelson
From 'past experience' (when we used to OWN a cat), I believe the only plain clay-nothing-added litter is Hartz cat litter in the orange bag. Just about everything else I've seen has scent, or additives.
I only know this from past experience in purchasing product for our now deceased cat's needs, as well as I've found it interesting to read how many folks go through all the efforts of dusting themselves, their hats, and jackets that they paid hard earned money for with crushed cat litter.
No WONDER folks think our group is nuts.
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:47 pm
by Ark Hunter
It's better than shooting yourself in the arm.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:56 pm
by Michaelson
That's been asked about before too.....

Can't seem to get any volunteers on that one, though.
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:27 pm
by Bufflehead Jones
Michaelson wrote:From 'past experience' (when we used to OWN a cat), I believe the only plain clay-nothing-added litter is Hartz cat litter in the orange bag. Just about everything else I've seen has scent, or additives.
I only know this from past experience in purchasing product for our now deceased cat's needs, as well as I've found it interesting to read how many folks go through all the efforts of dusting themselves, their hats, and jackets that they paid hard earned money for with crushed cat litter.
No WONDER folks think our group is nuts.
Regards! Michaelson
I did that once for halloween. Never again, though. All the dogs in the neighborhood chased me down the street. I could barely hold them all off with my David Morgan. As I ran past, some kid shouted, " what are you, a lion tamer?"

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:53 pm
by Captain D
Okay, I gotta dumb question to ask, but here it goes: the other Fullers Earth that has dyes in it...some say it may stain. If it stains, then does it "stain" the same color as that particular color or does it happen to turn to some other color? For example, would it "bleach" a felt hat so-to-speak? Again, I know this is a weird question to ask

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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:06 am
by thunderquack
Most factories use FullersEarth as a agent to dry up hazardous spills. We have a 55 gallon drum of the stuff sitting on our shipping dock.
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:49 am
by rick5150
I lay the Fuller's Earth on very heavy to ensure it gets into all the nooks and crannies. This is not an Indy hat but the principle is the same.
BEFORE:
AFTER:
Here is the entire procedure
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:04 pm
by Ark Hunter
Nice work Rick. You could probably make a good "man with no name" hat that way too. (minus the crock teeth) I'd love to have one actually.
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:19 pm
by Kris
ooh, film distressing .. time to put a bag of it in the budget of my movie.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:24 pm
by Ark Hunter
Yeah, you dust it all over the film and it give it that "classic" look.
