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Just Received My IOAB Whip
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:59 am
by Prof. Ed
Hi all,
The IOAB whip is a very sturdy and handsome piece of workmanship. Mine came out in a medium brown color. I haven't tried it yet, but I'm impressed with it.
Adam makes fine whips, especially for an academic with a backround in math and physics!
If you are on a buget, like me. Then I think this whip would definitely fill your needs.
Best regards,
Prof. Ed
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:57 am
by Swindiana
Maybe it's the math and physics that does it?
You'll discover that the IOAB is great! Trust me.
Regards,
Swindiana
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:43 pm
by Indy_Railok
Swindy has right, you know..
Ed-Man, i got a IOAB of my own. And i love it! Well, i can't use it right now, (Too much snow
) but it's great to use!
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:13 pm
by Canyon
Congrats, Prof!
Have you any pictures?
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:20 pm
by Prof. Ed
Canyon wrote:Congrats, Prof!
Have you any pictures?
Sorry, no pictures yet
My wife takes them and uploads them in spurts!
I'm "Computer Challenged" in this area
I didn't realize how heavy and greasy a whip is. The Ol' prof. will get another hernia and stain his Wested trousers I'm afraid
Regards,
Prof. Ed aka Zeyda tonight
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:28 pm
by winrichwhips
Hi Ed,
The grease should dry up over time. I'm not totally sure, but I don't think there's enough grease left on it to really stain clothing. I guess it's a good thing I made your IOAB lighter than usual, I'd say it's about the same weight as a kangaroo whip. I'd hate to think what you'd say about it if I had made it the usual weight.
-Adam
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:32 pm
by Prof. Ed
winrichwhips wrote:Hi Ed,
The grease should dry up over time. I'm not totally sure, but I don't think there's enough grease left on it to really stain clothing. I guess it's a good thing I made your IOAB lighter than usual, I'd say it's about the same weight as a kangaroo whip. I'd hate to think what you'd say about it if I had made it the usual weight.
-Adam
Adam,
I love the whip. Remember, my whip before was a toy. I didn't know what to expect.
As you saw above, I gave a recommendation. I'm glad you made a lighter whip for me, though.
Take care,
Prof. Ed
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:05 pm
by thefish
Yeah, I got to handle a couple of the NEW design, (unless there's a newer one now, Adam,) of the IOAB whips this past August, and it was SOOOOOOOOO much lighter than the black IOAB Adam made for a buddy of mine about a year ago. Texas-styled fall and shot loaded.
The new ones with the leather core are far lighter and easier to throw than the first ones.
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:36 pm
by Indiana Jerry
I've got an older one...but I eat all my spinach, so I guess I'll be alright.
(No fears, Adam, I still love my IOAB! It's that old whiskey one, one of your first few, and you should see the colors now!
)
Prof. Ed, I only have two quick pieces of advice - protect yourself, and protect your whip.
As for protecting yourself, if you really didn't get to crack your toy whip much before, this means at least wearing some headgear when you learn - that means trying anything new for the first time. I've been doing this a year, and I tried something new last week...and tagged my ear. Owie! Forgot rule #1...protect yourself. Sleeves and long pants aren't such a bad idea, either, and Sergei can tell you why you should even consider wearing eye protection at first. (We don't get spare eyeballs, and it's too easy to break one while first learning.)
Second is protecting that whip. Try not to crack it on unforgiving surfaces, like stone, driveways, cement (erk), roads (argh), and worst - SAND (aaaiiieee!). Keep in mind how well those things can distress a jacket if you fall, now keep in mind the whip is made of the same stuff. Sand is a different kind of bad...you'll never get all the sand OUT of a whip, and cracking it with sand inside the strands is like having little pieces of glass in there - cutting the strands as you crack it. Better safe than sorry - grass is best. Rug isn't bad, if the wife doesn't mind you knocking over vases, though...
A subcategory on protecting the whip is Pecards. The leather dressing will work wonders for it. Once or twice a year for the whole whip, but the fall could use it after every session - if not still greasy from the last application.
I've asked Adam directly before about care of the IOAB, since some folks say NOT to pecards the handle, but Adam indicated the IOAB could handle it. Just to be on the safe side, I only lightly pecarded the handle...enough to treat, but no extra.
Good choice on a great whip, Prof - have at it and have fun! Woohoo!
( <---- You now have a new smilie to express yourself, too.
)
J
P.S. Experts in this forum, please feel free to shoot holes in this if I mis-stated something, but I believe this to be a fairly accurate collection of the wisdom you have imparted here.
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:33 pm
by Prof. Ed
Jerry,
Thanks for the advice. As I have said before, I'm a big time KLUTZ. When I try and "crack" this IOAB I will be wearing body and eye protection.
Old guys have enough hurt without adding to it
Adam made a fine whip and I'm sure his advice to you about leather protection is correct. If you can't trust the whip maker, than who.....!
If I ever got to attend a Summit, I don't think the TSA would give trouble about a whip in checked luggage. From the pictures I saw.
At the Summit, did folks have empty holsters that flew in? It was a question I posed on Artsee1's post. Maybe someone reading this could answer.
Best regards,
Prof. Ed
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:01 pm
by Indiana Jerry
Yep, my holster is always empty. But I'm local - if you are asking if the HOLSTER would raise problems in a checked bag, I sincerely doubt it. As a matter of fact, I think I saw a LOT of holsters there.
Thinking harder, I'm not sure I saw ANY pistols that day, even repros. Okay, maybe one, but I'm having trouble remembering...
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:41 pm
by winrichwhips
About Pecarding the handle, I remember hearing somewhere that the natural oils from your hand are usually enough to keep a bullwhip handle in good shape, so you don't need to put Pecards on it.
Peace out,
Adam
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:45 pm
by Sergei
winrichwhips wrote:About Pecarding the handle, I remember hearing somewhere that the natural oils from your hand are usually enough to keep a bullwhip handle in good shape, so you don't need to put Pecards on it.
Peace out,
Adam
That's right. And don't pecard the knot work as well. They will loosen up.
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:55 pm
by G-MANN
I don't want to sound stupid but what does IOAB stand for?
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:17 pm
by The real Henry
Indy-On-A-Budget! Too simple anyone would think of it!
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:23 pm
by G-MANN
Thanks, that is simple and now I think I have seen that before
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:50 pm
by winrichwhips
When I first started, I though about calling it the Indy-on-a-Shoe-String-Budget since one of the members here who inspired the IOAB had said that he was trying to put together his Indy costume on a shoe-string budget. Though, that's just too long, and Indiana Jerry shortened it to Indy-on-a-budget. Now everybody just says IOAB.
-Adam,
www.winrichwhips.com
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:30 pm
by thefish
As a professional in both the higher education AND mass communication industry, I reserve the right to use as many obscure acronyms as I possibly can in any electronic post!
If there are any physicians, lawyers, or IT specialists out there, feel free to trump me. Adam, I know you're an engineer, so don't bother.
-Dan
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:52 pm
by Michaelson
I am too, with 32 years under my belt, and I have worked for the U.S. Government, two State governments to date and currently higher education.
Your play.....
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:55 pm
by thefish
I just KNEW you'd jump in her Michaelson!
No fair! You get to trump me with 32 years of experience in the field.
Though I've had about 32 years of experience myself. It's about 32 years now of experience TOTAL, (unless you count en womb...Then make it 32 years and 9 months.)
-Dan
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:57 pm
by Michaelson
Who said anything about experience? I just said I had it under my belt! 8-[
High regards, my friend!
Michaelson
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:56 pm
by Indiana Texas-girl
Prof. Ed wrote:
At the Summit, did folks have empty holsters that flew in? It was a question I posed on Artsee1's post. Maybe someone reading this could answer.
I've never had trouble with an empty holster. You'll have more trouble if you bring a cigarette lighter.
winrichwhips wrote:When I first started, I though about calling it the Indy-on-a-Shoe-String-Budget since one of the members here who inspired the IOAB had said that he was trying to put together his Indy costume on a shoe-string budget.
Probably a good thing you didn't. Imagine the "a-Shoe-STring" part's anacronym. The sensor detector might bleep it out.
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:12 am
by Rusty Jones
Cant wait to see pics of the whip, I'm considering the IOAB once I get a budget to spend :c) (and time to go with it...) can you up the price to get a 10 foot IOAB?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:22 am
by winrichwhips
Hi Rusty,
You can get an IOAB whip in any length you want, it's just 8 ft is the most popular. They are $12.50 per braided foot, so a 10 footer is $125.
-Adam,
www.winrichwhips.com
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:45 pm
by Rusty Jones
thanks for the info, its great to have a vendor so closely involved in the forums...
(I may hold out a few months because money's tight getting ready for college, but I plan on getting (hopefully a 10 ft) IOAB at some point!)
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:36 am
by Indakin
i just ordered my IOBA 10 footer from Adam....now begins another month of Indy gear waiting.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:41 pm
by Strider
Rusty,
I've also ordered an IOAB. You know me and taking pictures, I'll have some up the very same day I get it.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:17 pm
by Indiana Williams
I have to agree with you there, Tone. The IOAB is a great whip. I plan on getting one within the next month or so.
best regards,
Joe
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:21 pm
by Bufflehead Jones
I have cracked GRG's IOAB whip on numerous occasions. I must agree, it is the most bang for the bucks that you can get with a whip. Unless, you are talented enough to make your own.
Why is everyone ordering a 10 footer? It sounds as this will be the first whip that some of you have owned and maybe the first one that you have cracked.
I like the 8 foot better. It is easier to learn with, it is easier to do more cracks with, and it looks just about as good coiled up as a 10 footer. I just think that the 8 footer will give it's owner more satisfaction. There is a reason why Adam just said that the 8 footer is the most popular.
In Raiders of the Lost Ark, Indy may have walked around with a 10 footer coiled on his belt because it looked cool, but in the streets of Cairo scene when Harrison Ford had to actually use the thing, it was an 8 footer. Just a thought.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:27 pm
by Swindiana
And I went inbetween and went for a niner.
You almost always see whips of even feet in length and never (almost) the odd ones... Maybe one foot isn't much of a difference?
Anyways. My next one will be a 10 footer.
Stay tuned, because a lot of people are gonna watch me cracking it... Thats' all I'm revealing as of now.
Regards,
Swindiana
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:48 pm
by Indakin
i understand what your saying bufflehead, but i just had an 8 footer and i was able to crack it circus style no problem. I know it will be harder to learn with but i do want the look of the longer whip, plus i dont think i will have to much problem...Hopefully lol
Plus its easier to swing from things with teh longer whip....jk i know thats not what its for.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:56 pm
by Bufflehead Jones
Okay, cool. It sounds as if you know what your getting into. I just thought it sounded like a lot of people without any experience with whips were just automaticly ordering 10 footers. Besides, for an IOAB, paying by the foot, an 8 footer is cheaper.
Nothing wrong with a 10 foot whip. I don't have one, but who knows, one of these days I might. A lot of people are happy with a 10 footer. Just not the easiest for a beginner.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:01 pm
by Indakin
well im def a beginner still, i only played with my whip a few hours seriously. But by reading online, and playing with my 8 foot 12 plait, i was able to get the circus crack realllllly load, almost every time i tried it. I got a few pops out of the overhead, but nothing like the circus. I know overhead is louder so i know i didnt do it right and need to work on it. I plan on only getting this one whip....for now
so i jsut went with the indy length. I'll ahve to wait to pratice with my IOAB though cause i sold my other on ebay 2 days ago.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:51 pm
by Rabittooth
MorgonKenbur wrote:well im def a beginner still, i only played with my whip a few hours seriously.
Don't do it too often...you'll go blind.
-Rabittooth
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:40 pm
by Indakin
I ordered the IOAB raiders whip with the darker knot, but does the raiders whip really have a darker knot to it? I was jsut looking at teh movie on my comptuer and when i slowed down the openning gun whip away it sorta seems darker. But when they swing across the pit, and when idy grabbs his whip under the closing door its not dark. I havent checked the other scenes but i was jsut wondering. Also what color was his fall in raiders?
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:48 pm
by Kt Templar
Rabittooth wrote:
Don't do it too often...you'll go blind.
-Rabittooth
You are very bad.
Morgon, Safety goggles.
I just got mine and have got a few good cracks out of it. Yes, they are real cracks, the sort that echos around the street and sets dogs off barking.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:24 pm
by BullWhipBorton
Morgon, Some of the bullwhips used in Raiders of the Lost Ark did have a darker knot on the handle, others didn’t. I don’t believe it was done intentionally though as even on today’s Morgan bullwhips, its not uncommon to see some color variation from the main body of the whip, and the knots. Some of the knots I’ve seen are noticeably darker, others not so much, it just depends. The fall color was originally white, as they where using white hide falls, though white hide doesn’t stay very white for too long when your using a whip so it isn’t surprising that the falls have a dirty light tan color to them in many of the stills and screen grabs.
Dan
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:59 pm
by midwestwhips
I just wanted to add a perspective on one of the reasons why knots are lighter or darker than the color of the rest of the whip.
I know that when I use leather for the knot that is from the same hide as the rest of the whip, if I don't put any grease on it before I tie it, it will be a lighter color. Also, sometimes even if I use leather for the knot from a different hide even if it is the same color as the hide used for the rest of the whip, it will sometimes be a little darker or lighter, just because each hide has it's own characteristics.
Regards,
Paul Nolan
MidWestWhips
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:07 pm
by Indakin
thanks for the tips guys. All of you who have Indy whips, IOAB or not, do you have a dark raiders knot? For those of you who are doing the raiders indy look, do you have the darker knot, or if not do you wish you had it?
KT- I have a fencing mask from when i used to fence in middle school. Its a full metal cover and would be perfect for learning whip cracks.