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Why Is Ford's Left Hand Inside His Hat?

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:42 pm
by Flash Gordon
On the Bonus Material DVD that comes with the boxed set of Indiana Jones movies, there's the scene in "The Making of Raiders" where Harrison Ford is shown putting on his hat and adjusting it just so. He grabs the hat at the pinch with his right hand, and before he puts it on, he puts his left hand inside for several seconds. He's obviously doing something to the hat. My question is this:

What's he doing?



:?:

Any ideas? It might help us in the long run.

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:57 pm
by Colby
I don't have the bonus dvd with me at the moment to see for myself but maybe he is adjusting the liner?

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:21 pm
by VP
Or maybe the hat got bumped and he straightened it up?

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:34 pm
by whiskyman
Adjusting the centre crease by pulling on it from the inside. I do it too.

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:20 pm
by binkmeisterRick
Actually, he was in the process of making a puppet out of it for a deleted scene where he scares away the hovitos with his hat. But that never happened, because they cast the part of Belloq, and, well, the rest is history...:wink: bink

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:12 pm
by IndyK
binkmeisterRick wrote:Actually, he was in the process of making a puppet out of it for a deleted scene where he scares away the hovitos with his hat. But that never happened, because they cast the part of Belloq, and, well, the rest is history...:wink: bink
:D :D :D :D :D

I think his just catching the rubberband that goes under his chin to hold the hat in place...

Cheers

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:31 pm
by Indiana George
That's where he keeps his stash?

George

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:36 pm
by prairiejones
This is easy, he's looking for the rabbit. It's a rabbit hat, right?

Why is Ford's Left Hand Insise His Hat?

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:52 pm
by IndianaWill
He may be checking the sweatband for moisture (sweat), or needs two hands to hold his hat, so he won't drop it. Mabe he just wants to hide his hand By picking up the hat by the front pinch, and holding the inside with his left hand so it will be secure. :lol:

Have a Great Day!!!!

IndianaWill 8) He may be feeling for the Hare, in his hat.. :P

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:01 pm
by Skippy
As whiskyman said, he's creasing the crown bash from inside. See this pic...

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Your actually creasing/folding the bash, so it's like an inverted front pinch. Know what I mean?

I've done it to my hat too. Only this is while I now have a VERY deep crown bash & camel humps like in the Raven Bar scene, I seem to have pulled the sides in on the hat & lost the stovepipe look :?

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:31 am
by Indiana Jerry
He wasn't just smoothing his hair back under his hat so he wouldn't have hat-head?

(I was being serious...see, serious face. :| )

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:08 am
by 3thoubucks
That is something I have wondered about too, so I just rewatched it. Something strange is going on here. He's not working on the front crease. Ford's whole hand is grabbing front beyond the front crease, and it's not moving up and down.... but it does seem to be working on something beside the front crease, perhaps in conjuncton with the other hand. Look at his cuff, and when he pulls the hat off his hand, his palm is facing the front of the hat, the cuff hasn't rotated. His hand is all the way in there, working only on the front of the hat. If he's pinching the top crease, he's only working on the very front of it. The humps on the crown aren't moving- I tried pinching my top bash and the humps moved together quite obviously.--- I don't think he's working on the front pinch OR the top bash. He's putting a lot of effort into it, whatever it is, like he's moving furniture in there.

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:15 am
by Indiana Jerry
Or maybe trying very hard to get rid of a wrinkle in the sweatband that is poking him in the forehead? Just a thought.

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:34 am
by Harrison_Davies
I heard that he had foam fitted in there to keep it tight, maybe some had come loose and he's trying to reinsert it?

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:43 am
by 3thoubucks
Please, H.D.. tell us where you heard about a foam insert. This is the first time I've heard of it.

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:53 am
by Indiana Williams
Indiana George wrote:That's where he keeps his stash?

George
stash of what? :-k :wink:
- Joe

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:07 am
by Harrison_Davies
Well from what I can rememebr an old friend of mine, who was an extra as one of the crowd at the nazi gathering in Last crusade, picked it up from a crew member. I know we are talking about Raiders, but surely the same would apply for each film, to keep it tight? Herbert Johnson actually sell foam inserts to keep a tight fit....

This is from IMDb "Unable to keep his hat on during the scene where he was chasing the tank on horseback despite trying glue, tape, and newspaper wedges, Harrison Ford pretended (in a "Making Of" special) to staple the hat to his head." Crusade I knwo but i'm looking.

But i know I heard/seen it elsewhere, after that. I will think, may take my old brain a while but hey, when I know, you'll know.

Here we go...also from IMDb regarding raiders "Indy's hat was actually kept on with double-sided tape." Foam/Tape very close.

I still have this nagging thing that says foam. Surely tape would pel away when sweat hits it?

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:06 pm
by Erri
Could we have a pic of that scene please??

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:00 pm
by Canyon
I presume you mean when Harrison is sat in a plane adjusting his fedora?

Not sure if this will help, but I found a picture here:

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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:08 pm
by Erri
Where do you find all those incredibly rare pics Stella????? :shock:

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:41 pm
by Strider
She takes great screen shots, don't she? :D

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:47 pm
by Dakota Ellison
Image
It's not really rare anymore. It's from the making of Raiders section of the Bonus Material DVD.

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:55 pm
by Strider
He could just be using his left hand to steady the hat as he adjustst the front of it. I don't think this is one of those things that requires a magnifying glass. :wink:

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:12 pm
by WConly
Strider wrote:He could just be using his left hand to steady the hat as he adjustst the front of it. I don't think this is one of those things that requires a magnifying glass. :wink:
Thank you! W>

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:56 pm
by Canyon
erri_wan wrote:Where do you find all those incredibly rare pics Stella????? :shock:
From spending far too much time on the internet. :roll:
Strider wrote:She takes great screen shots, don't she? :D
Why, thank you Strider. :oops:

The screenshot isn't mine, though. I got it from harrisonfordmedia.com :wink:

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:04 pm
by prairiejones
Maybe there's a knob in there that he is turning...and this is how he achieves the "turn"!!!

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:52 pm
by Dakota Ellison
You put your hand inside and squeeze the center dent, while the other hand keeps the front pinch in place.
This makes for a front and rear reverse taper and a taper on the sides until you put the hat on and pull down on the brim as you see Ford doing, which squares everything up.
No problems, mate.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:25 am
by Hemingway Jones
Wow Dakota, Ford certainly is doing a lot of work on that hat. He seems much more concerned about the look of it than I ever thought he bothered with. I had always assumed that is was someone in costuming who fussed over his hat, but your pictures clearly show Ford obsessing over it, which means that Mr. Ford may know quite a bit more about the styling of it than he has ever offered. -So, if anyone ever sits next to him on a plane... :wink:

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:52 pm
by prairiejones
-So, if anyone ever sits next to him on a plane...
I'll show him how to really bash a hat. :lol:

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:57 pm
by Hemingway Jones
prairiejones wrote:
-So, if anyone ever sits next to him on a plane...
I'll show him how to really bash a hat. :lol:
As John Travolta said in "Pulp Fiction:" "That's a bold statement." :wink:

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:54 pm
by eaglecrow
Well, I looked really close onto these pictures for a while. Than I compared it with my 5 year experience wearing Fedoras myself and I guess I found out what he's doing:

he's holding his hat

:wink:

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:56 pm
by Erri
BreinederIndy wrote:Well, I looked really close onto these pictures for a while. Than I compared it with my 5 year experience wearing Fedoras myself and I guess I found out what he's doing:

he's holding his hat

:wink:
That's my same thought :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:20 pm
by IllinoisJones
BreinederIndy wrote:Well, I looked really close onto these pictures for a while. Than I compared it with my 5 year experience wearing Fedoras myself and I guess I found out what he's doing:

he's holding his hat

:wink:
My thoughts exactly, he also could be fidgety, and a hat is good to fidget with. Illinois

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:34 am
by Andiana
I remember seeing this as well, and I always thought he was ajusting the liner. 8)

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:40 am
by Erri
Let's keep in mind that Ford wasnt a gearhead like us and he didnt care a lot how he wore his hat. So i don't believe he's adjusting anything inside the hat, he's just holding it while tighten the front pinch, that's it. We are nuts for that hat and we want every little detail faithful to the movie but he was the movie so he would have never cared about these things

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:05 pm
by Indiana Jerry
I don't know about that...he might have loved having a chance to look like Heston in Treasure Of the Sierra Madre... ;) THE...HAT...MUST...BE...QUINTESSENTIAL...HESTON! :D

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:47 am
by 3thoubucks
Colby and Andiana got it right. He's adjusting the liner. He's stuffing it up into the overhanging humps over the front dents. I can see his actual FINGERTIPS poking the felt up in there, MOVING SIDE TO SIDE RAPIDLY! That's how that left hand can be so deep into the hat - that's the highest point. Can anyone else see the magic fingertips in the Bonus Material DVD? :shock: (If true, then we can assume the hat had a liner intact in it throughout the film.. Unless he's just shaping those overhangs or something)

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:06 pm
by Indiana Jackson
He's just holding the hat and slightly creasing the center dent while pinching the front of the hat. My $0.02. :D

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:44 pm
by eaglecrow
3thoubucks wrote:Colby and Andiana got it right. He's adjusting the liner. He's stuffing it up into the overhanging humps over the front dents. I can see his actual FINGERTIPS poking the felt up in there, MOVING SIDE TO SIDE RAPIDLY! That's how that left hand can be so deep into the hat - that's the highest point. Can anyone else see the magic fingertips in the Bonus Material DVD? :shock: (If true, then we can assume the hat had a liner intact in it throughout the film.. Unless he's just shaping those overhangs or something)
If he was adjusting the liner, why didn't he turned the hat upside down? At least I'm used to do this since I want to see what I'm doing :?

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:56 pm
by IllinoisJones
Probably because he wanted to make sure itwouldn't jar whislt he put t on his head. Illinois