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They mention that HJ made the hat(s) in raiders, however they dont mention who made the jacket. perhaps if they did, wested would get more buisness? =P

Don't be too proud of them. Nadoolman said they used HJ's "Australian Model" :evil: :junior: -IJ

Bare in mind there where no Wested at the time Raiders was made.

Peter did design the jacket, but worked under commision at Bermans & Nathans, so Wested as a compagny has "nothing" to do with Raiders, but
Peter does indeed!

Best regards

JAN

Here was something else that I thought of while watching the behind the scenes DVD....I saw this post, so I thought that I would post it here:

Steven Speilberg tells the viewers that there were various options in who would play Indiana Jones. He goes on with the list: Peter Coyote, Tim Matheson, Tom Selleck, ect...And, he mentions that "the Indiana Jones costume came ready before anyone was really hired."

I guess my observation is this: If the Indiana Jones costume (including the jacket I'm assuming...) came ready before any actor was hired to play the part of Indiana Jones, then why does Wested say that they designed the jacket that met the approval of both: the costume designer AND Harrison Ford himself if the jackets were ALREADY supplied BEFORE anyone was hired to play Indiana Jones?

In other words, a "leather jacket" was already manufactured, but AFTER Harrison Ford was hired to play Indiana Jones, Peter then worked out the tweaks in this "leather jacket" to meet the satisfaction of Harrison and the costume designer...? Do you guys see what I'm saying, lol? Was there another prototype leather jacket? Or did Speilberg just mean that there was this "idea" of an adventurer wearing a leather lacket, in general, but it wasn't manufactured until someone was hired to play the part....?

It is not my intention to seem as if I am second-guessing anyone's statements or credibility. This was just something that I had noticed while watching the DVD. Again, this was only an observation, I'm not trying to step on any toes here...

Kindest Regards,
Captain D

I think the costume was ready in the sense that they knew Indy (regardless of the actor who played him) would wear a leather jacket and fedora, along with some sort of militaria satchel... I'm thinking of the famous "comic book" paintings which Lucas and Spielberg say helped establish the mood of the picture (Indy smoking a cigarrette in the desert, Indy jumping onto the truck). In those pictures, the gear is pretty close to what we see in the final movie, even though Ford hadn't been cast yet. Once he was cast, I imagine that the original outfit was tweaked to become uniquely Ford's...

-RJ

I agree with Repairman. I think Spielberg meant that the basic costume was set. Remember that it is said on that DVD that the basic idea for the custome was "a man in a grey fedora."

No, I have an interview with HF and he says they had the costume AND all the materials already picked out before they had alot of other stuff done. I'll try to find the quote.

I agree it just means they had the "basic look" laid out. Remember, as Speilberg is saying that, they show the Struzan (I think?) art that does capture the over-all feel, but it's far from what's in the movie. Even Lucas's earliest sketches have this. Maybe Peter had been hired to do the jackets, had a few choices in hand, and then the final jacket was selected and streamlined with input from Ford.

It's also normal for the contractor of a movie to have in the contract all screen credit is given to the main contractor, and not subcontractors. Peter was a subcontractor to B&N, and therefore does not appear in the credits.

This same thing happened to my son-in-law and 'A Knight's Tale'. He made all the fancy armor worn by the villian and the villian's horse in the last joust scene in the movie (he actually had to make 4 complete suits of armor, as they kept changing designs), and yet his name does not appear anywhere in the film, but the main contractor's name does.

Regards! Michaelson

Wow, this is some pretty cool info guys!

Thank you for your responses, and that is interesting to learn that your son-in-law did the villian's armor in "A knights Tale" Michaelson, another good movie indeed!

Kind Regards,
Captain D

So unjust!

Ken

Just the nature of the business. Rest assured, it won't happen on the NEXT project, now that he's getting pretty well established in his field again. Regards! Michaelson

mayhaps it is a possibility that the 'specifications' requested by Harrison Ford apply to the later jackets, as in the extra lenght or press studs or collar/fitting elements were requested and specified by harrison for Doom and Crusade but not for the Raiders

if it was indeed chosen before Ford was hired, I would still assume Ford was measured and fitted for his own jacket and maybe during the fitting he put in a request...

just ways to explain the claims of Speilberg and Botwright...

speaking of which... I GOT MY RAIDERS WESTED! *GLEE!* will give thread with pics hopefully soon, but I'm pretty tight on time this week.

Hi, Captain D-- I seem to recall having seen Tom Selleck doing a try-out cut, but that he was wearing an A-2, not an "Indy" jacket.