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Maltese Falcon Bogey

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:30 pm
by Fedora
After trying to copy pics sent to me of the Bogey hat, here is what I came up with. Now, I was gratified to find that Bogey had the tight pinch on his at too, at least at the top. Check it out. Jim, your Bogey is on its way. Fedorahttp://public.fotki.com/Fedora/hats/bogey2.html

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:41 pm
by DanielJones
Now that's one good looking hat. (said after a low wistle) :clap: Jim is one fortunate soul.

Cheers!

Dan

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:55 pm
by Pyroxene
Has MK seen that hat? It would be interesting to hear his imput on it. He had done a lot of research on that hat.

Pyro.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:16 pm
by Zach R.
I was going to ask you by e-mail if you could do a Bogey hat for me, it appears that you can! :clap: :D

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:19 pm
by binkmeisterRick
Steve, did you sell your soul for this gift, or does it just come naturally? :wink:

bink

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:23 pm
by Marc
Well done my friend. The crown looks to be creased spontanious, just like the one in the movie (no pun intended). Now how about one with a bound brim... :D

Regards,

Marc

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:41 pm
by Harry Steele
That is one sweet lid. Congrats, Steve. What are the specs? Beaver? Ribbon height? Crown? Brim? Curious minds . . . .

Cheers,
Harry

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:48 pm
by Indiana Cromeens
Stunning, I want an adventurebuilt, If I'd found out out about it back in the day when I got my HJ I totally would have got one instead. Instead I just drool over the rest of the guys AB hats all day at COW. sigh I can almost feel it on my head now.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:13 pm
by Fedora
What are the specs? Beaver? Ribbon height? Crown? Brim? Curious minds


First, thanks for the compliments. This is he Raiders gray beaver felt. Ribbon width is 2 inches, and the brim is 2 5/8. On the creased height, I do not know. I just looked at the pics Jim sent and tried to copy them. If my felt was just a bit thinner, I could have nailed that top crease. I do think if I would have softened the felt up, it would have had a softer look on the top. That is the only weakness that I could see. Fedora

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:17 pm
by prairiejones
That hat is great. I love the thickness of the ribbon .

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:05 pm
by Hemingway Jones
And remember how one must wear a Bogie hat...
Awesome hat. I love it. You know, I just watching this movie again (I have it on DVD) the other night. It is such a great hat and looks great with so many different suits.
Awesome job, Fedora. -Just amazing. :wink: :D

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:19 pm
by Renderking Fisk
Which Bogie movie?

The one in The Maltese Falcon is a bit more "Crisp" like this one.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:44 pm
by Oklahoma Jones
NOW WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO COME UP WITH THE BREAD TO GET ONE OF THOSE BEAUTIES?!?!?!?!?!?!? :D WHAT A SWEET LID, STEVE!!

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:10 pm
by crazylegsmurphy
This is EXACTLY what I wanted when I asked before....@#$%! I need a job!

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:05 am
by Mattdeckard
Where did you get this image of Harrison in the grey hat?

Image

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:08 am
by Fedora
Where did you get this image of Harrison in the grey hat?
I got that image from someone who emailed it to me to post here. A lurker, I think, as I did not know the person. I asked him the history of the pic ,but never heard from him again. Pagey thought it was faked. Is that the consensus of most folks here? I thought it looked rather genuine. Fedora

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:12 am
by J_Weaver
It looks fake to me also. :?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:16 am
by Hemingway Jones
Fedora wrote:
Where did you get this image of Harrison in the grey hat?
I got that image from someone who emailed it to me to post here. A lurker, I think, as I did not know the person. I asked him the history of the pic ,but never heard from him again. Pagey thought it was faked. Is that the consensus of most folks here? I thought it looked rather genuine. Fedora
I think this needs to be posted over on the "Indy Greys" post. Is it faked? I don't know. If it is, it is a good one. It certainly answers the questions definitively if it is not. Does the suit match up to what is in that scene? If so, it would lend some credence. That little girl's haircut sure matches up to 1981; that whole "Dorothy Hammil" look. The focus is definitely set on the figures in the foreground, and it was a nice camera with an apperature setting set for portraits. A point-and-shot couldn't do an image like that. It sure looks like it was taken on set to me. I've seen a million similar images of some lucky person who is posing with a star on set.
However, it could be two distinct images. There is something strange going on with the right side of his ribbon. and the white of the gentleman behind him with his suit, looks a little strange. Still, the foreground pic could be right, but the background could have been added later.
I think this picture might need its own thread. It is an amazing image!

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:17 am
by Mattdeckard
If it's a fake then I'm Mickey Mous!

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:21 am
by Hemingway Jones
I wish you fellows would render opinions based on something. It's real, it's not real, but why? Based on your knowledge and experience, why did you reach your conclusion? Thank you.

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:22 am
by Renderking Fisk

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:22 am
by Mattdeckard
Okay, with the images you have available of Ford and the plane, make an exact copy of that pic.

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:24 am
by Hemingway Jones
I think someone needs to look up "Carol Grant" and ask her. I wonder if she is related to Cary? Ms. Grant, do you remember a photo with Harrison Ford taken 25 years ago?

BTW, I love stuff like this.

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:41 am
by J_Weaver
Hemingway Jones wrote:I wish you fellows would render opinions based on something. It's real, it's not real, but why? Based on your knowledge and experience, why did you reach your conclusion? Thank you.
Thats a good point Hemingway. To me it looks like Indy and the girl have been placed on the background. :? But I'm no expert, so I may be wrong.

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:41 am
by Michaelson
That definitely looks like the outfit Ford wore in the final staircase scene in Raiders. That photo looks like the quality photo done by a professional photographer, and not a snapshot type made by someone with a point and shoot camera. I believe it's real from what I can see in the shading and the sharpness of front image to rack out focus of the images in the background. You almost have to use a macro setting on your lense to achieve this effect, and it's done all the time with high end still cameras and element adjustable lenses in 120 format. Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:50 am
by Hemingway Jones
I just blew the image up to a very large size and the thing that looks strange on his ribbon is the bow! Also, the edges transition perfectly. I am far from an expert, but I think it is real, mainly for the reason that Michaelson articulated above, much better than I had attempted to do. :wink: :D

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:51 am
by J_Weaver
See, I knew I was wrong! :wink: :D

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:52 am
by agent5
Well, this thread is defintely non-Indy off topic.

What is that phrase? What's good for the goose...

...or is it, What's fair is...

I dunno.

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:53 am
by Michaelson
True, but it got swung to Indy, didn't ? :wink:

I was 'articulating' HJ??!! :shock: Excuse me! I had no idea! :oops: :wink:

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:15 pm
by Fedora
Off topic?? :shock: Well, kinda, sorta..............
I was gratified to find that Bogey had the tight pinch on his at too, at least at the top.
A fine line, yes, but a line nonetheless. :lol: Fedora

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:06 pm
by agent5
I don't want you to get me wrong, Steve. I personally think we should be able to post these sorts of things here for the sake of the whole community who may be more than interested, but the mods have made it perfectly clear in the past that threads not pertaining to Indy gear or the films are off-topic and not for this site. I myself as well as many, many others have had threads shut down for this very reason which I've come to respect. I was politely trying to point out how this thread is remenicent of past threads that have been shut down and we even have mods posting on it. HOWEVER, as I said, I find nothing wrong with your bringing this hat to the attention of the board except that an exception was made in the rules where in other cases, it was not. Yes, it did get sorta moved to an Indy related thread, but I wanted to voice my opinion on the matter, which as many of you know, I've been known to do from time to time. :wink:
Hey, I know that alot of the gearheads are interested in this hat and that you are now THE go-to guy for Indy hats. I wish you luck with the new Bogie even though I know you don't need it cuz' you'll be selling the heck out of them. It looks great! Hope there are no hard feelings here. Nothing personal at all, just looking at the big picture. I'd have posted the same response had it been someone elses thread.

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:31 pm
by Michaelson
Let's clear something up, agent5, there are precedents for this type of posting. We have allowed vendors and individuals to post items that were made and/or sold by gear vendors of Indy items. We've had discussions of jackets made by Wested, but for other movies. We've had whipmakers who make Indy whips for us discuss whips they've made for other movies. There have been no problem with this happening, as there's been at least a link, thin as it may be, back to the original Indygear point of view. This loosening up of these type posts was done when MK was webmaster, and hasn't changed since Abner and Mike took charge.

The strings that cause problems are those that come completely out of left field and have absolutely NO connection to an Indy vendor what so ever. Those will continue to be shut down, or at least questioned by the moderators. We even allowed your topic that you created when the Chicago Convention took place to continue to it's conclusion. It had nothing to do with Indy at all, but just the fact that you and several others were going there in gear represented the very hobby, and therefore was left intact. The same goes for other conventions that are posted here...eg., all the Star Wars stuff. They were eventually deleted, but were given time to get info out before being shut down. If you'll recall, those type posts were never allowed prior to MK's change of policy. You also know he was the one that introduced that policy, as you were involved with the recent one where he started discussing the Casablanca plane in the middle of the Disney Well of Souls string. Things are a lot looser in that respect, and have been for some time.

So, this particular string, though not Indy connected, isn't a first, and shouldn't cause anyone heartburn. If it does, I'm not sure why, as it's been done many times to date and there have not been any complaints. Why now?

I hope this helps clear the air. If not, please contact me offline and we'll try and clear things up.

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:37 pm
by Bufflehead Jones
It is the Raiders gray beaver felt, that sounds Indy related to me. It was just styled a little differently this time around.

I guess this photo kind of puts an end to the brown hat/ gray hat argument, huh. Actually, I am seeing a brown hat on my monitor!


Just kidding! :lol:

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:39 pm
by Michaelson
BURN HIM!!!!!

Image

(grins)

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:23 pm
by agent5
The air around here smells fresh. :lol:

Thanks, Michaelson.

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:40 pm
by Bufflehead Jones
Michaelson wrote:BURN HIM!!!!!

Image

(grins)

Regards! Michaelson
Jpenman! Jpenman!

Where's a fireman when you need one!

Miachaelson is chasing me around with a hot cup of coffee and a torch.

picture of IJ and friend

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:27 pm
by jeboat
As an ameteur photographer I am always interested in controversial shots like this one.

It is not a bit unusual to use fill flash when outdoors. It causes the subject (IJ and friend) to "pop" and subdues the background.

jeboat :lol: :lol: :lol:

BTW that Bogie is my hat!!! :wink:

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:55 pm
by Mola Ram
Nice job steve!

do you have that color in rabbit?

Regards,

Adam