Club Obi Wan

I recently e-mailed L.L. Bean and asked them if the cotton poplin field shirt was going to be updated or discontinued because of its low price ($18.95) and obscure web location http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores ... x=2&Go.y=8 Below is their response.

" I am sorry to write that this cotton poplin field shirt is being discontinued, as you determined by the sale pricing and the web location. This may very likely be being brought back in an updated version next year. It is not uncommon for us to make minor changes in a shirt's details for a new season."

It looks like there's a good chance that these shirts could come back. L.L. Bean has changed the shirt before and I won't be surprised if they bring it back different again. But still, even if they do bring it back, I doubt it will be $18.95 again anytime soon.

well then i better grab up a few of them before theyre gone.

The long sleeves are getting low...they're already out of tan mediums.

The short sleeves are also on sale (item 10938) which suits me fine since
I never wear long sleeve shirts except in the darkest depths of winter.

The wife may kill me but at this price I ordered four of the short sleeve
variety.

Regards,
Indybill

yep the tan long sleeves are gone ,so ill just go with the wested.

Too bad medium size in tan is out, I was going to order one!

What about this:
http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores ... =ssdpb6266

I think its the same thing, only with BUZZ OFF (Our popular warm-weather shirt now repels ticks and mosquitoes) and a higher price. All sizes and colors are backordered until August 12, though.

yeah they look virtually the same ,but they probably smell wierd,cause of the bug repellent or whatever they use.and the price isnt too bad either.but id rather buy a wested.

Buzz off doesn't smell.

Yep! Same exact thing! Why wouldn't they tell you this in the email?
"That particular shirt has been replaced by the same exact cotton poplin field shirt with bug repellant added"

Man,people are goofy!


have a nice day.

I'm glad I ordered two of them before they are all gone. Plus for $18.95 that's a great deal. Speaking of discontinued Items I had a Sporting Goods store here in Nebraska call on the Carolina Husker Boots for me to see if they had my size. The answer I got was no they did not have my size and they are being discontinued. (bummer )

I am glad to see that this shirt is not going away. They are updating it with the insect repellent, which is added somehow to the fibers, I think through genetic engineering. I don't know if the repellent works, but it seems like a great feature to me, especially hiking here in New England where the mosquitos usually slap your on your back and shake your hand before they sting you. I wonder if it would work on the Black headed flies. So, far the only thing I have found that works on them is Napalm

Orvis, LL Bean, and Cabella's are all selling Buzz Off apparel. Considering all the diseases that are transmitted by mosquitoes today, I think we will see an increase in apparel of this sort. I have been considering purchasing some items with this feature, myself.

Buzz Off is odorless, and doesn't come off in the wash. It is in the fibers of the material. If it works as advertised, then I think it is a good thing. With these companies jumping on the bandwagon, I would guess that it is a good product.

I have seen some of the Buzz Off clothing items at the Orvis store, and I could not tell that they were any different than the non-buz off items. I haven't bought any as of yet.

i see what you guys mean.i should get a few,cause of all the cases of west nile here in so cal.and if you live in the US they are 20 bucks cheaper then the wested shirt.

Bufflehead Jones wrote:Orvis, LL Bean, and Cabella's are all selling Buzz Off apparel. Considering all the diseases that are transmitted by mosquitoes today, I think we will see an increase in apparel of this sort. I have been considering purchasing some items with this feature, myself.

Buzz Off is odorless, and doesn't come off in the wash. It is in the fibers of the material. If it works as advertised, then I think it is a good thing. With these companies jumping on the bandwagon, I would guess that it is a good product.

I have seen some of the Buzz Off clothing items at the Orvis store, and I could not tell that they were any different than the non-buz off items. I haven't bought any as of yet.

GREAT! stop the 'West nile' virus but soak our skin with a carcinogenic bug repellant


have a nice day.

Texas Raider wrote:

Bufflehead Jones wrote:Orvis, LL Bean, and Cabella's are all selling Buzz Off apparel. Considering all the diseases that are transmitted by mosquitoes today, I think we will see an increase in apparel of this sort. I have been considering purchasing some items with this feature, myself.

Buzz Off is odorless, and doesn't come off in the wash. It is in the fibers of the material. If it works as advertised, then I think it is a good thing. With these companies jumping on the bandwagon, I would guess that it is a good product.

I have seen some of the Buzz Off clothing items at the Orvis store, and I could not tell that they were any different than the non-buz off items. I haven't bought any as of yet.

GREAT! stop the 'West nile' virus but soak our skin with a carcinogenic bug repellant


have a nice day.

The clothing is dry, so you will not get soaked in it. What makes you think that it causes cancer? Look at it this way, at least the logo is on the inside so no one will see it.

Bufflehead Jones wrote:

Texas Raider wrote:

Bufflehead Jones wrote:Orvis, LL Bean, and Cabella's are all selling Buzz Off apparel. Considering all the diseases that are transmitted by mosquitoes today, I think we will see an increase in apparel of this sort. I have been considering purchasing some items with this feature, myself.

Buzz Off is odorless, and doesn't come off in the wash. It is in the fibers of the material. If it works as advertised, then I think it is a good thing. With these companies jumping on the bandwagon, I would guess that it is a good product.

I have seen some of the Buzz Off clothing items at the Orvis store, and I could not tell that they were any different than the non-buz off items. I haven't bought any as of yet.

GREAT! stop the 'West nile' virus but soak our skin with a carcinogenic bug repellant


have a nice day.

The clothing is dry, so you will not get soaked in it. What makes you think that it causes cancer? Look at it this way, at least the logo is on the inside so no one will see it.

I am pretty sure that the repellent capabilities are done at the molecular level, either by using cotton that has been genetically spliced with something that emits something that bugs don't like (how's that for scientific analysis? ) or by infusing the fabric with this sort of material in the manufacturing process. Either way, when you touch this fabric, you would never know it was treated with anything.

well the other way to keep those lil blood suckers away is just massivly increase the amount of garlic you eat and hey its all natural

all kidding aside i'm considering ordering a couple of these shirts (the regular ones, i'm a garlic eater )

Did you know that only female mosquitos bite? It's true. So they are the only ones that you need to keep away from. Of course, I don't think that I could tell a male from a female mosquito.

Grab a tin of Badger's All Natural Bug repellant, it works wonders and smells awesome.

That's too bad that they are going to suspend that product for a while. I have read reports where LLBean doesn't return with the same quality the item once had when they do this. I guess we shall see.

I am pretty sure that the repellent capabilities are done at the molecular level, either by using cotton that has been genetically spliced with something that emits something that bugs don't like (how's that for scientific analysis? ) or by infusing the fabric with this sort of material in the manufacturing process. Either way, when you touch this fabric, you would never know it was treated with anything.

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Oh, that's much more comforting Genetic splicing and molecular manipulation or chemical infusion of my clothes- I feel much better now, Hemmingway.

Why do I think it carcinogenic? Well there will probably be a report about it in a few years (or the process will just quietly disappear).

SPECIAL REPORT- SUDDEN INDY FAN DEATH SYNDROME (SIFDS)

It's probably not a natural source, and if it's a chemical, it can't be good to wear on your skin for long periods of time. I'm sure someone will sue them eventually because they find they are allergic to it.

Of course all of this is just speculation on my part, but I'm kind of a suspicious kind of guy.

I realize the clothes are dry(sheesh ) "why is my brand new shirt permanently moist?" "oh, it's that new pre-soaked 'bug-be-off-me' safari shirt"


have a nice day.

Texas Raider wrote: Oh, that's much more comforting Genetic splicing and molecular manipulation or chemical infusion of my clothes- I feel much better now, Hemingway.

Why do I think it carcinogenic? Well there will probably be a report about it in a few years (or the process will just quietly disappear).

SPECIAL REPORT- SUDDEN INDY FAN DEATH SYNDROME (SIFDS)

It's probably not a natural source, and if it's a chemical, it can't be good to wear on your skin for long periods of time. I'm sure someone will sue them eventually because they find they are allergic to it.

Of course all of this is just speculation on my part, but I'm kind of a suspicious kind of guy.

I realize the clothes are dry(sheesh ) "why is my brand new shirt permanently moist?" "oh, it's that new pre-soaked 'bug-be-off-me' safari shirt"

have a nice day.

For the record, I never for a moment thought that you would think the shirts were moist. You're a bright guy. What I was referring to was that polyester-like feeling of most high-tech fabrics. I hate the coarse feel of most of those.

Here is a bit of real information on it:

BUZZ OFF Insect Shield Repellent Apparel is an outstanding innovation in insect repellancy. It provides the benefits of a bug spray without the constant reapplication, so you'll dramatically reduce the number of insect bites. In a patent-pending process, a man-made form of the natural insect repellent found in the chrysanthemum plant is bonded to the fabric of our clothing to give it an odorless, invisible, effortless repellancy that works like sprays and is EPA registered.

Looks like all of this worry is over a flower. It's much more beneign than I thought. I suppose I should have researched it first.

But, in any case, there are plenty of options out there.
Best,
HJ

HJ, The moist clothing thing is my fault. I was making a joke about the statement that the clothes were soaked in bug repellent.

Hemingway Jones wrote:]Looks like all of this worry is over a flower.[/url] It's much more beneign than I thought. I suppose I should have researched it first.

But, in any case, there are plenty of options out there.
Best,
HJ

Aren't a lot of household insecticides made with pyrethrins (sp?) which come from a certian type of daisy? Then there are other poisons and nerve agents that come from things like almonds and peach pits. Almost every poison known since the ancient Greeks (hemlock, anyone?) has come from some sort of plant or flower.

Just 'cause it's natural, don't make it nice.

Cheers!

rebelgtp wrote:well the other way to keep those lil blood suckers away is just massivly increase the amount of garlic you eat and hey its all natural

all kidding aside i'm considering ordering a couple of these shirts (the regular ones, i'm a garlic eater )

While you were probably mostly joking, what you say is true and it doesn't
necissarily take massive doses to work.
I like garlic so I put it on many things that I cook. At our last campout
when everyone around me was being eaten alive even with all kinds of
bug repellants, I did not have one bite on me and I used no bug repellants .
So I think that even smaller consistent doses of garlic would be very
effective in changing your body chemistry just enough to make a
difference. It's very good for lowering cholesterol too!

Regards,
Indybill

Baggers wrote: Aren't a lot of household insecticides made with pyrethrins (sp?) which come from a certian type of daisy? Then there are other poisons and nerve agents that come from things like almonds and peach pits. Almost every poison known since the ancient Greeks (hemlock, anyone?) has come from some sort of plant or flower.

Just 'cause it's natural, don't make it nice.

Cheers!

True, but personally, I prefer the chrysanthemum over DEET.

I use a fly swatter, but that's just me. Regards! Michaelson

I thought in Tennessee you used a Webley.

Hemingway Jones wrote:I thought in Tennessee you used a Webley.

He must prefer the challenge in not using enough gun, as it it were.

If it comes to that, nothing less than a .44 mag will do...and a Webley ain't enough gun to do the job. I use the flyswap for my LIGHT work...(grins) Regards! Michaelson

Michaelson wrote:If it comes to that, nothing less than a .44 mag will do...and a Webley ain't enough gun to do the job. I use the flyswap for my LIGHT work...(grins) Regards! Michaelson

Dang, boy, you must got some skeeters over there! I don't want to see what you haul out to deal with the bigger pests!

Oh, those are just the skeeters that migrate out of YOUR part of the country, Baggers! We ALL know they're bigger in Texas, so we have to arm ourselves accordingly. Regards! Michaelson

True, true. But I should warn you that, like Germany never exporting its best beer, we only send you easterners the runts of the litter. We keep the best of the breed for our own torment!

"No where else but Texas"

Yeehaw!

And like I said, we have to use .44 mags for the runts...so PLEASE keep your prime examples at home! High regards! Michaelson

(Never heard of Tennessee being referred to as being East! )

Michaelson wrote:(Never heard of Tennessee being referred to as being East! )

It's east of Texas, isn't it? You just gotta have the right way of looking at things.

[gollum]Whats skeeters, precious?[/gollum]

Zach R. wrote:[gollum]Whats skeeters, precious?[/gollum]

Mosquitos. A small irritating insect that ***** blood, sort of like a tax collector or a politician.

Mosquitos. A small irritating insect that ***** blood, sort of like a tax collector or a politician.

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Only easier to tolerate!-- And smarter!



have a nice day.

Baggers wrote:

Zach R. wrote:[gollum]Whats skeeters, precious?[/gollum]

Mo-ski-toes. Boil 'em, smash 'em, stick 'em in a stew.

Fixed.

Hemingway Jones wrote:True, but personally, I prefer the chrysanthemum over DEET.

Right. Now the only danger is in a REALLY big BEE chasing you in that nifty smelling shirt down the street...ahhhgH! Food Of The Gods! Food Of The Gods! (Don't know the movie? Look it up...you'll never look at wasps the same way...nor those cute, LITTLE, white mice...eek!)

Michaelson, why waste ammo. Doesn't a scatter-gun get all the skeeters at once? Or a nice paint sprayer...or a can of Raid 'applied' w/ a lighter...FLOOM!

Dang These are GREAT shirts - I bought a few before the Wested - I Love the material

I just got a new LL Bean catalog. The cotton poplin field shirt with buzz off is pictured. It is listed as the color tan as usual, but the picture looks a lot lighter than this shirt has always been. It looks like it is a stone color. If someone buys the buzz off version, please post if it is tan or more of a stone color. Is it screen accurate or catalog accurate?

Yea,

Ive got one. They are really nice. 18$ is deffinatly a
great price for that shirt. I need to pick up
another one.
Regards,
Adam

Heck at that price buy a few and have them altered to be a real Indy shirt. Hmmmm My gears are cranking- doesn't this obsession ever end?


ps - I think the LLBeans have the best fabric out of all the offerings I've owned.

Supplies are starting to run low on these. I just ordered four more of the
short sleeve versions and they were out of green ones in medium.

Regards,
Indybill

There are still several available if you select "Tall." I bought two, and I plan to take the shirt to a seamstress to see if I can get the pleats sewed on. Perhaps she can use the extra fabric from the bottom of the shirt.

Has anyone had a shirt modified like this (have pleats put on)? Any suggestions?

I carry a mosquito net (fits over my AB) in my MKVII just in case I find myself in Skeeterville, U.S.A.
I also use DEET for my hands so unless the little buggers can **** through goatskin, I should be alright.

... however, my friends tell me New England MO-SKEET-TOES and DEER FLIES are registered with the FAA. 8-[ 8-[

Spooky wrote:... however, my friends tell me New England MO-SKEET-TOES and DEER FLIES are registered with the FAA. 8-[ 8-[

i received this same warning when talking to someone about working out east next summer.

Spooky wrote:I carry a mosquito net (fits over my AB) in my MKVII just in case I find myself in Skeeterville, U.S.A.
I also use DEET for my hands so unless the little buggers can **** through goatskin, I should be alright.

... however, my friends tell me New England MO-SKEET-TOES and DEER FLIES are registered with the FAA. 8-[ 8-[

You have it half right. The FAA is working with the DoHS and the FBI, trying to get the CIA, who's stuck in KP because The VP was MIA, trying to get those buggers on the watch list PDQ or ASAP.

That's the government for 'ya.