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The worst hat money can buy
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:13 am
by webley420
What is the worst Indy hat you can get . Is there an Indy hat that you think is the saddest thing a fan can buy? You see I have a Miller "Indy" hat and I have been told it is a pane in the butt to reblock a Miller is that because it is made out of cheap material?
How would you rate the Miller to other "Indy" hats?
Which ones are beater and which ones are not as good as the Miller?
The only other guy that I know that has a Miller is IndyFist and his hat looked geat.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:16 am
by Indiana Texas-girl
The Dorfman crushable version.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:24 am
by Indiana Williams
i would say the Dineyland ones are the worst, they dont even have a lining
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:25 am
by Zach R.
Yep, Dorfmans=Poo.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:40 am
by webley420
Would you say the Miller is just one step above the Dorfman or can it run with the big dogs?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:00 am
by Indiana Texas-girl
Depends on which Dorfman you're talking about. Wool Dorfman is about as low as you can go. Their fur felt version is pretty decent (for the price) if you get it reblocked to get the tear drop bash out and reblocked with a center dent. The hats at Disney are Dorfmans, by the way. I think it's a great hat for a little kid who needs a starter hat and will outgrow it in a few years. It wouldn't make sense to buy a little kid an expensive hat to have him outgrow it few years later.
Oh and I'd say the Miller is definitely a few steps above the Dorfman wool.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:08 am
by Indiana Williams
when i was at Disneyland i noticed alot of people,mostley adults, were buying the Dorfman fedora.and another thing i noticed they were selling a LC style indy jacket for $300
,you can buy a wested for that.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:05 am
by Jens
Did you ever see a "Mayser" Indy hat?
Mayser makes nice dress hats, yes. And I remember a lot of "adventures" in my Mayser-Fedora (it was my first "real" Indy hat), but quality and look of that Fedora was (compared to other hats with the same price) worst.
-- Jens
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:15 am
by Hemingway Jones
Pagey wrote:When I first joined COW I seem to remember the Miller was still fairly highly regarded. Over the years it's been eclipsed by the Akubras and Peters bros and now of course the ABs. I've never seen one in person but I remember I nearly ordered one.
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To add to what Pagey has said, I like the Miller. I have tried one on and I think it is a very nice hat. It is miles above a Stetson. It is an odd reddish color, but I kind of like it.
Here are pictures of Indiana Fist's Miller in comparison shots with an Akubra and my 100% Beaver Adventurebilt. Fist picked his up for $40 on eBay. Not a bad find at all. Of course, I prefer my Adventurebilt to all other hats, but to ascribe a Miller to the same level as a Dorfman is way off the mark, in my sometimes humble opinion.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:26 am
by Indiana_Tom
Like Jens said, here in Germany (and I'm talking about the time BEFORE we all discovered indygear and this forum!) the Mayser "official" hat was the one and only hat to go. Here are some pics:
The expensive model:
and the "Young Indy" model (aka. the cheaper alternative):
Wrong colors (except for the young Indy model perhaps), taper...
You know, it's a shame that someone claimes these products as "original" and so. But we all know better
@Hemingway: Nice pics! I like this "tomb" in the background!
Regards,
Tom
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:14 am
by prairiejones
Tex girl is right. Dorfman is junk. I do think that they would be great for a kid, though. They make kids sizes and can get them at lifestylestore.com. I'm thinking of getting my daughter one.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:16 am
by prairiejones
Hemingway, great looking Akubra. I should be receiving mine this week. Needless to say, I will be taking peeks at those pics while I bash mine.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:51 am
by Hemingway Jones
Indiana_Tom wrote:@Hemingway: Nice pics! I like this "tomb" in the background!
Regards,
Tom
Thanks Tom. TOMB was a great time. It was a great backdrop for an mini-Indy summit.
prairiejones wrote:Hemingway, great looking Akubra. I should be receiving mine this week. Needless to say, I will be taking peeks at those pics while I bash mine.
Hey, thanks. That Akubra served me well. I am sure you will do great with you bash.
This is my favorite reference page for bashing: MK's ROLA Fedora page.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:52 am
by Michaelson
Personally, I wouldn't say 'Dorfman' and 'Miller' in the same breath. They're no where NEAR the same in terms of quality, and I usually place the Miller just a hair below an Akubra myself, if cared for properly. Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:04 am
by Renderking Fisk
This is my PERSONAL experience, other people have had diffrent things to say...
The Stetson "Ark" and "Temple" are pretty bad. They looked great out of the box, but as the weeks went by they tapered and the crown size shrunk. They were so bad I almost gave up on wearing fedoras, until I found Hats Direct and later Steve showed up.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:42 am
by prairiejones
Hemi, That page is already in my Favorites. I've studied it well.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:33 pm
by Indiana Texas-girl
prairiejones wrote:Tex girl is right. Dorfman is junk. I do think that they would be great for a kid, though. They make kids sizes and can get them at lifestylestore.com. I'm thinking of getting my daughter one.
I just wanna qualify that the fur felt version isn't junk if you can get it reblocked with a center dent put into it. I quite like my Dorfman fur felt, but it has developed some noticeable taper in the last 3.5 years.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:36 pm
by eaglecrow
I remember the "good old days" when I really thought that the mayser hat is a great Indy-hat. It was my first hat which I enjoyed till I wasn't able to put it onto my head any longer.
Here is a "vintage foto" of me wearing a Mayser when I was 16:
#### hat or not, I had some great adventures with it. Nethertheless I think my adventurebuilt is wearable, too
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:43 pm
by Indiana_Tom
BreinederIndy wrote: Nethertheless I think my adventurebuilt is wearable, too
Hey Daniel, any new pictures?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:36 pm
by DanielJones
when i was at Disneyland i noticed alot of people,mostley adults, were buying the Dorfman fedora.and another thing i noticed they were selling a LC style indy jacket for $300 ,you can buy a wested for that.
Jpevh:When at Disneyland did you happen to see anyone wearing their Disney Indy Hat backwards. I saw at least two people doing that. Not youngsters either. Older men who, one would think, knew how to wear a hat. And they were probably wondering why it felt so uncomfortable. LOL
Cheers!
Dan
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:08 pm
by Indiana Texas-girl
Daniel, didn't you know that is the new hip way people are wearing fedoras these days?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:50 pm
by Renderking Fisk
Do they serve mixed drinks at Disneyland? I came home to find my fedora on backwards after getting loaded.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:56 pm
by Band Director Jones
Maybe they were trying to get the "Raiders Turn" and got a little carried away.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:20 pm
by Bufflehead Jones
I guess they are the same ones that are used to wearing their ball caps backwards. Some people just don't know any better.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:26 pm
by DanielJones
They didn't look like ball cap wearers. But they do serve wine & mixed drinks at the Califorina Adventure side of the park Ren, and that is where I saw them, so that has to be it. LOL
And as far as the hip way of wearing a fedora is concerned, I'll stick to being a square and look good doing it.
Cheers!
Dan
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:53 pm
by nicktheguy
Those disney hats on backwards are versatile - as you round the corner towards pirates of the carribbean you can put it on sudeways and flip up the brim and presto........Arrrrrrrrr Matey!!!!!
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:48 pm
by Indiana Williams
nicktheguy wrote:Those disney hats on backwards are versatile - as you round the corner towards pirates of the carribbean you can put it on sudeways and flip up the brim and presto........Arrrrrrrrr Matey!!!!!
i think i saw people doing that
along with others wearing it backwards.
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:09 pm
by JerseyJones
whew....thank goodness....NO CAMPTOWNS ARE LISTED !
My vote - DORFMAN ! Ugh !
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:03 pm
by Curator Rick
I've started out with a DP fur felt reblocked and it has held up very well. The wool version is an expensive souvenier. For $80. the Fur is good for the money. It was easy to reblock dosen't have a taper like some others I won't mention and has held its shape well. When you say Dorfman point out that it is the Wool that is @#$% thank you slamming something us newbies start out with is in bad taste. CR
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:57 pm
by webley420
I think you can make a DP look like a nice Indy hat for a little while but once you start having an adventurer in it it will turn to @#$% real fast
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:00 am
by Zach R.
Yeah, my hat was looking really good for a while after I rebashed it. Then it got wet, shrunk, and the ribbon turned a really odd tan color.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:16 am
by Curator Rick
I wonder how they are made then as I've worn my DP every day since Jan. and I've shoveled snow in it, mowed grass and been rained on twice now with no real effects other than dirt. Compaired to the Jaxon Iconoclast I just got the DP is better qual. The Jax brim is cut off center and the fur felt is shedding
I'm sending it back. Didn't mean to get cranky on the last post. I just happen to like my DP it looks great and while it's not an AB it's all I've got for now. CR
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:04 pm
by Renderking Fisk
webley420 wrote:I think you can make a DP look like a nice Indy hat for a little while but once you start having an adventurer in it it will turn to @#$% real fast
You're talking from "Years of Research out in the feild..." aren't you?
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:50 pm
by Hemingway Jones
webley420 wrote:I think you can make a DP look like a nice Indy hat for a little while but once you start having an adventurer in it it will turn to @#$% real fast
Ah yes, my friend, I remember when folks were taking turns putting a center dent on yours at Joes's Stock. I think it was Dalexs who gave it a nice center dent.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:40 pm
by webley420
Renderking Fisk wrote:You're talking from "Years of Research out in the feild..." aren't you?
Well I dont know about years of research but I can say this you can go out in the rain and role around in the dirt and your DP will keep its shape but when you start repelling in to thirty foot wells or crawling through culverts. That when your DP will start to take a beating.