Club Obi Wan

Hey Folks : I know they're out there amongst the forum members but I have yet to see an actual Sea Plane Indy lid on anybody's head. I'm quite keen to go after one for my work wardrobe and am interested in what folk think is the best out there in terms of quality, price and vendors.

So...who's gottem??? eh..

Warm Regards
Kilgour Trout

Fedora now has the Raiders gray, so he would be the man to get one from.

Don't forget that Jersey Jones is trying to recruit people to get gray versions of his hat too. Besides that and the AB, there isn't much out there. :junior: -IJ

Grey you say? Here's a few of me with my Grey PBBM - it's very soft and floppy, yet still has retained it's look so far....

That's Fantastic MJ!!! I thought I remembered you in a grey somewhere on the forum but couldn't quite remember who or where? That is a really nice PBBM I was wondering whether they are hare, blends or full beaver and still $280 plus?

I've just recently seen Fedora's Grey (Very nice) but I was also curious whether Lee Keppler has ever offered a grey?

MJ...can you where your's in summer weather?

Again..Very nice.

Warm Regards
Kilgour Trout

Kilgour Trout wrote:That's Fantastic MJ!!! I thought I remembered you in a grey somewhere on the forum but couldn't quite remember who or where? That is a really nice PBBM I was wondering whether they are hare, blends or full beaver and still $280 plus?

I've just recently seen Fedora's Grey (Very nice) but I was also curious whether Lee Keppler has ever offered a grey?

MJ...can you where your's in summer weather?

Keppler has offered grey, not sure what he has in stock currently. The Grey PBBM is a Borsalino, so I'm pretty sure it's beaver (but don't quote me 100% on that). As for summer, yeah, I do wear it in the summer. But alas, in the heat, all fur felt fedoras get hot in my opinion. And I really don't want Indyesque sweat stains on this one... My Optimo Montecristi is a great summer hat (similar to Belloq's) - being straw, it breaths a whole lot better than fur felt.

Minnesota Jones wrote: My Optimo Montecristi is a great summer hat (similar to Belloq's) - being straw, it breaths a whole lot better than fur felt.

Any pics of it?

So, have we agreed on the Flying Boat hat really being grey...?

Yes....we have....now go away.... Regards! Michaelson

Michaelson wrote:Yes....we have....now go away.... Regards! Michaelson

All your base are belong to us

Strider wrote:

Michaelson wrote:Yes....we have....now go away.... Regards! Michaelson

All your base are belong to us

Indeed, and someone set us up the bomb...

Was it grey... really? It looks kind of brownish to me - lighter brown, but still...


Maybe I'm mistaken.

Regards! Michaelson

I dunno ... can't be sure if it's a grey hat or a gray hat. It's a rather grey area ... or is that gray area?

Or, more important, is the bus company actually called Greyhound? I always thought it was Light-Brownhound...

I shall stop. Wouldn't want to summon the gray eminence of COW again...

Or, more important than that: how are you supposed to spell it?

Grey or Gray?

Both are right, actually - gray is U.S. spelling, grey is British English.

Then again, light brown is English while light broon is Geordie. Just ask Al.

I say its gray, I mean, its the way Indy would spell it...

Then again, he fought in the trenches with the Brits in WWI didn't he? He might have taken on some British traits and actually spelled it Grey!

I would go seek out Steve aka fedora's Adventurebilt.

What ever you do don't get one from Petersbrothers , that place is a joke and a half( nightmare).

Also, not to pop your bubble about your gray PBBM borsalino, but it's rabbit not beaver and make sure you don't get it very wet or you will be very dissapointed with the results. The only beaver borsalinos are the ones that say "100% beaver" on the sweatbands and they cost $400. and aren't anywhere near the quality of the Winchester 100% beaver felt that Steve uses on his Adventurebilt. I've seen them in person and trust me they are not worth the money. Just the facts, nothing personal.

regards fedoralover

About the grey hat in indiana jones, well i think it's really grey just because he's wearing a nice suit which doesnt match with brown

Anyway guys it could have been (in the movie) the same hat but with afternoon sun light; in that particular situation brown hats could seem to be grey

Have a look to these pics... it's the same stetson brown hat with different lights





the colour didnt change actually but the light yes
I hope my message is at least interesting lol

The hat in the plane WAS grey. Period! Richard Swales has claimed several times, that he made one or two grey hats for the movie as well and though he changed his opinion on pretty much everything regarding the specs. from time to time, he kept telling that he INDEAD made grey hat(s).

Now the discussion starts, if that wasn't the hat worn by the Nazi and if i couldn't have been a brown hat, that faded...

Regards,

Marc

Marc wrote:The hat in the plane WAS grey. Period! Richard Swales has claimed several times, that he made one or two grey hats for the movie as well and though he changed his opinion on pretty much everything regarding the specs. from time to time, he kept telling that he INDEAD made grey hat(s).

Now the discussion starts, if that wasn't the hat worn by the Nazi and if i couldn't have been a brown hat, that faded...

Regards,

Marc

Well i'm convinced too that it's a grey hat but do you think a man would bring with himself in a travel to Nepal, not one but two hats?
Speaking about the plot i think that it's Indy usual brown hat under a different light.
Speaking of behind the scenes it's another hat with a different colour (grey)
.
Tha's my opinion, i hope i was clear in explaining it

Sì signore

Regards,

Marc

...and that Nazi Spy was in fact not Toht, but ILM's Dennis Muren. But all you already knew that, right?

And I'm pretty sure the brown fedoras in Raiders were brown and the grey fedoras were grey. But don't quote me on that.

IndianaJones wrote:Don't forget that Jersey Jones is trying to recruit people to get gray versions of his hat too. Besides that and the AB, there isn't much out there. :junior: -IJ

As to the Camptown gray hat, I NEED at least 10 people to commit to it. I really want to do it, though. I need to move some more of my brown first too Slow but sure.

Guys and gals, let me know about the need for beaver blend gray hats so I can get this up and rolling !

Ken

Pagey wrote:Apart from anything else, when Indy refuses the drinka nd begins to sit down, you can quite clearly see that guy with the brown hat at the back of the plane - and his hat doesn't look grey. You can see both hats in the same shot and they are not the same colour. Ironically, it seems they gave the Nazi spy the brown Cairo hat (it certainly looks that way to me)whilst indy is wearing the Nazi's grey cairo hat.

Well good counter argument you're right.
I was just hypothesing anyway

The hat was gray. Sorry, but you don't wear a brown hat with a navy blue suit, much less a dirty beat up brown hat. (I now someone will post a pic saying, well I do ) You can clearly see the remains of a tight front pinch on the gray hat that the big Nazi is wearing in Cairo.



EDIT: We're posting at the same time erri!

J_Weaver wrote:The hat was gray. Sorry, but you don't wear a brown hat with a navy blue suit, much less a dirty beat up brown hat. (I now someone will post a pic saying, well I do ) You can clearly see the remains of a tight front pinch on the gray hat that the big Nazi is wearing in Cairo.



EDIT: We're posting at the same time erri!

So he brings two hats to Nepal? Wow.

Anyway I wounldn't use a brown hat on a blue suit if you want to know

JerseyJones wrote:

IndianaJones wrote:Don't forget that Jersey Jones is trying to recruit people to get gray versions of his hat too. Besides that and the AB, there isn't much out there. :junior: -IJ

As to the Camptown gray hat, I NEED at least 10 people to commit to it. I really want to do it, though. I need to move some more of my brown first too Slow but sure.

Guys and gals, let me know about the need for beaver blend gray hats so I can get this up and rolling !

Ken

How many are you up to now, JJ? Regards! Michaelson

I've actually been meaning to make a post about this subject, so I'll do it here. I am not so sure that these hats are "grey". I have these screen grabs, and the closer I look at it , the more it looks like a really light 'heather brown' or 'taupe' or something. It has a 'frosty' appearance to it that might make it seem grey to the eye in some light. But I think it is a different brown than his regular Raiders brown. Look at these pics and see what you think. Also note how narrow the brim is in front (over his eyes)



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I think the hat is gray. But its a gray like Fedora is offering now. A gray with a slight hint of brown in it.

I just don't get it?! How are we convinced this hat is grey? The interior of the airplane is grey, and the hat doesn't look anything like that. Why is it , somebody please explain to me , have we come to the conclusion that it is grey?






have a nice day.

I don't have any pics of the plane scene, but the hat Indy is wearing at the end of the movie is gray. Gray Hat

Personally, I think its the same hat he had in in the plane and its the same hat the Nazi was wearing in Cairo. It all just fit together IMO. Light will also effect different materials in different ways. So the lighting in the plane could make his gray hat look different than the gray interior.

Sorry, it still does not look grey! Don't get me wrong, I agree a grey would probably look better with a blue suit than his regular brown, but obviously, that "heather brown" or whatever it is looks good too. And even if it is the Nazis Cairo hat, THAT hat is not grey either! Both Nazis are wearing tan/khaki colored suits! Why would they have on a grey hat? They both have on that same "heather brown" color.

Until there is some rock solid, indisputable ,evidence that Indy's hat is grey, I'm going by what my eyes see- and that is a brownish, frosty something brown. Even the ribbon is clearly brown.




have a nice day.

Maybe its my monitor, but the hat looks as gray as it can be to me. Well, for the sake of disagreement, until someone can prove the hat was brown it will be gray to me.

Texas Raider wrote:Both Nazis are wearing tan/khaki colored suits! Why would they have on a grey hat?

Color blind?

no sense of style?

Regards,

Adam

It's grey. i think it's the same hat as the end.

MJ, that grey of yours is sweet.

I was just at Blockbuster and came across this. I've seen the movie, it just reminded me. A good looking grey is the one Tom Hanks wears in Road to Perdition.

I watched that portion of Raiders last night, in slo-mo, on a new tv with a nice
bright screen. It is definitely gray/grey! Maybe not a gray like we are currently
seeing with the Akubras. And I haven't seen any of Steve's gray
AB's, so I can't compare that. It does look like it has a frosty look or is
a gray with a slight tint to it. When Indy puts his arm up to adjust his hat
his sleeve is in sunlight there is a little of that sunlight falling
on the hat as well. His suit is blue, his hat is gray, it certainly isn't brown.
The light falling on the hat can certainly affect the color especially in a neutral tone.
And besides, it would be no big deal for Indy to take two hats to Nepal,
that's what the prop guys are for.

Michaelson wrote:

JerseyJones wrote:

IndianaJones wrote:Don't forget that Jersey Jones is trying to recruit people to get gray versions of his hat too. Besides that and the AB, there isn't much out there. :junior: -IJ

As to the Camptown gray hat, I NEED at least 10 people to commit to it. I really want to do it, though. I need to move some more of my brown first too Slow but sure.

Guys and gals, let me know about the need for beaver blend gray hats so I can get this up and rolling !

Ken

How many are you up to now, JJ? Regards! Michaelson

Halfway there as yet. Keep the grey/grays coming !!!!

Thanks
Ken

Yeah, I think that is a gray hat. And the same hat the Nazi wore in Cairo, with more of less an open crowned look to it. You can zoom in on his hat and see clearly the tight crease on the front of the hat where it was once pinched. Then the hat at the end of the film, on the steps. I would almost bet, these three hats were the same hat. I have an excellent gray hat in stock, a gray with a bit of brownish undertone. It matches what you see on the screen in the airplane that so many folks love to argue over. Regards, and still kicking, Fedora.

You folks telling me that you think it is grey is NOT concrete evidence that this hat is grey! Someone post some pics that show ABSOLUTELY that there is a grey hat there. And why does anyone say the hats on the Nazis are grey? They are brown- like their suits!




have a nice day.

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have a nice day.

Look grey to me sorry

Me too. Regards! Michaelson

Not sure, on the second picture the hat seems a little bit brown. A very light brown, but brown. Hmm. But on the other hand ... I don't wear my glasses now (and colours seem to be much stronger, when I wear glasses).

Regards,
-- Jens

I think the grey with brown highlights that Fedora now sells duplicates what we're seeing here. It shifts color depending on the light....Regards! Michaelson

It's gray boys, thats all their is to it. They have just a hint of brown. Just like the gray that Fedora is selling.

It seems I'm the only one posting pics,(evidence) to prove a point. It's not that I'm trying to prove it is brown so much as I would like you to prove it is grey. Everyone is just on a bandwagon that it is grey without showing definitive proof! It seems that everyone one would just PREFER it be grey. That ribbon looks brown, the hat looks frosty brown with GREY OVERTONES. Someone post some freakin' decent picks to prove that it is grey,please! AND grey is spelled WITH AN E!


have a nice day.