Club Obi Wan

Well its looks like its going to happen with filming next year and release late 2006 or early 2007. What concerns probably many of us is will Indy be back wearing the same gear? If he does will Lucasfilm contract the material from the original companies who provided for the three previous films?

Naturally, they'd have to contract Peter for the jackets, and since he also offers the shirt and pants, now that MBA is gone, maybe Wested will do the entire costume?

And Fortune and Glory can supply the hats!!

Yeah and i can supply my face, hey if we are going to begin to dream im allowed too

Herbert Johnson still does the hat so I guess they should do it again.

Yes, but there is much debate on how many suppliers provided hats for Temple of Doom. And even though HJ supplied the hats back then, there is also opinion about the current quality of their hats now as opposed to then. Personally, I think it'd be cool if they used AdventureBilts! Especially with the Staff of Ra headpiece insignia in the liner, how cool an inside joke would THAT be?

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Since Indy 4 has been rumoured for the last few years the recent introduction of the shirt and pants by Wested seems more than a coincident to me. The original stockist no longer does it so Peter may have took it to himself to supply the entire outfit beside the hat, being probably the only few companies that continually worked with Lucas in all his Star Wars films this would make sense.

Late 2006 would be great. It shouldn't be on a date when it's too hot for wearing pants and a leather jacket
I was thinking of getting a LC look-a-like motorcycle (of course, wearing my outfit) for this very speccial moment when I'm able to see Indiana Jones on big screen

All I want to hear from Uncle George is that...

• The Script is good
• It's staring Harrison Ford
• They're using AdventureBilt fedora's
• They're not touching the rest of the gear.
• They've left the Soap by the sink... no "Days of Our Lives" plot twists.

Amen Brother!!!

Fedora Steve, anybody from Lucasfilm approached you about supplying the hat for the next Indy film? I think hardwork and interest should be rewarded, having said that there is still a chance HJ may win back the contract for the new film for various reasons and may even have original stocks and materials set aside from the last outing. These movie props may not always be better than whats is available, take the jacket for instant, they use lambskin which is softer and not period accurate but it was easier to distress than horsehide.

I wouldn't say he looked too old in LC, but It sure wasn't the same Indy we saw in Raiders.

I'm still not sure I like the idea of an Indy 4. A 63 year old Indy in a movie set in the 1950's. I still say that this movie has great potentail to be a great flop.

Of course we cant have a 63yrs old doing the kind of stuff Indy is reknown for but at the same time we cant lose the Harrison Ford connection because he is Indy. One possibility is to have the ageing Indy discover a magic potion, a fountain of youth or whatever that transform him into a younger fitter man played by another actor. This means there would be several more films being made, maybe oneday Indy got fed up of staying young when his children and wife are getting older than him but found a cure in future episode of the films and we see him transform back to to the old Indy played by Harrison Ford.

taikonaut wrote:Of course we cant have a 63yrs old doing the kind of stuff Indy is reknown for

Way not? His 63 not dead.

Do you guys think that when you are 63 years old you wont be able to kick ### any more if so that sad coz I know when Im 63 I will still be able to run jump and kick ### with the best of them.

J_Weaver wrote:I'm still not sure I like the idea of an Indy 4. A 63 year old Indy in a movie set in the 1950's. I still say that this movie has great potentail to be a great flop.

Sorry to rain on your parade guys, but Indy will not be in his 60's in the 1950's (as Indy was born in 1899).

Besides, the math works out pretty well. Harrison was 47 in LC playing a younger Indy in 1989 and given that this movie will be out in 2007 (17 years later). I think it works out pretty well, age wise, give or take a couple of years.

And I still stand by what I wrote here: http://www.theindyexperience.com/indy_iv_canyon.shtml

Come on guys. Don't judge harrison Ford even before he's made this movie. For crying out loud, give the guy a chance! :evil:

Oh, and one more thing, Sean Connery can run around as a 72 year old in a League of Extrordinary Gentlemen, and nobody bats an eyelid...

Because he is Sean Connery for crying out loud! and I say the same for old Harry

Other than that it would have to be a prequel. Indy wasnt suppose to have done very much after the war if I remember correctly in the Young Indiana Jones there was at least two occasions that feature an older Indy, one was in the 60s when he became a loner in a cabin and uneasy on his feet no longer jumping around and reflecting his younger days (Harrison Ford reprised his role for this), another in the 90s when he was a tramp held behind bars and everyone thought he was nuts.

Luisiana Jones wrote:Because he is Sean Connery for crying out loud! and I say the same for old Harry

"Seen a canary"

This is what is meant by a "youth-obsessed culture." Characters and actors are disposable once they hit their fifties. Apparently, many people who are thirty, or so, and under think its unsightly for anyone over fifty to be in an action role. They can't stand the look of gray hair or a wrinkle on someone's face. It's ridiculous.

Great men live great lives, their entire lives. It's not about how a character look -how shallow is that? It's about the story. It is always about the story. If the story matches the character and the story is interesting and compelling, then the film will work.

Amen, Hemingway! If the story is good, it won't matter how old Indy is. In fact, his "age" could be a factor that could work even more with the right script. I, too, find it disheartening that so many people think 60 and up is too old to do anything. My great uncle just died a couple weeks ago. He was 105. And let me tell you, when he was in his 60's he was still stirring up his own brew of trouble! He had so many stories and adventures of his own that he could've been a real life Indy, no joke. So if the story is good, then let them make Indy IV!

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binkmeisterRick wrote:So if the story is good, then let them make Indy IV!

Thats what scares me.

I have no doubts that Ford can play Indy. And still do a great job at that. But what worries me is the story. I think its gonna be hard for them to do another as good as the previous three. However, I guess I just have to have faith that thay won't do it if its not good.

Its nostalgia vs new audiences. Sure die hard fans will like Harrison Ford to be doing all the action and will say some people in their 60s can still do all the stuff that Harrison did when he was in his 30s, its not always the question if he could still do all his stunts and we have CGI that can do this but will his age be difficult to win a new audience? Would imagine there would be some disagreeable faces about a 60 something man kissing Scarlett Johanson who is young enough to be his grand daughter .
When Roger Moore starred in his last Bond film no matter how much I like him as Bond there was no escaping that he looked too old amongst the rest of his companies and that the younger villians looks like mugging a pensioner. Speaking of Bond why not have Indy purely as a character that different actors could fill in like they do with James Bond? At least it will keep the franchise going without needing to find a reason to ressurect the character and fear that it might flop because Harrison isnt playing him or look too old.

If we are concernd about old indy kissing a girl half his age. I say why does she have to be half his age , why can't she be around his age.

I knew a firefight back in New York City who died in 9/11 who was 66 and with rescue 1. Rescue 1 is one of five elite companies who do everything from hazmatn, medicals, high rope rescue, fire, etc ( they do it all). You have to be hand picked by the stations captain and can be booted of if you don't pull your weight. Joe pulled his weight till the day he died. So I agree with Hemingway that it's a fear of people under the age of 30 have that they shouldn't ( wait to you reach 40 and you'll feel different).

If the story is good and keap indy as himself all will be good.

I never like the james bond movie as much as when sean conary played them.

O.K. I'm getting of my soap box. wait, it takes the old man a secound or two to get up.

Hemingway Jones wrote:This is what is meant by a "youth-obsessed culture." Characters and actors are disposable once they hit their fifties. Apparently, many people who are thirty, or so, and under think its unsightly for anyone over fifty to be in an action role. They can't stand the look of gray hair or a wrinkle on someone's face. It's ridiculous.

Great men live great lives, their entire lives. It's not about how a character look -how shallow is that? It's about the story. It is always about the story. If the story matches the character and the story is interesting and compelling, then the film will work.

Well put Hemmingway, I couldn't agree more.

As long as the story is good, the movie has action, humour and pathos, it'll work.

Hemingway Jones wrote:This is what is meant by a "youth-obsessed culture." Characters and actors are disposable once they hit their fifties. Apparently, many people who are thirty, or so, and under think its unsightly for anyone over fifty to be in an action role. They can't stand the look of gray hair or a wrinkle on someone's face. It's ridiculous.

Great men live great lives, their entire lives. It's not about how a character look -how shallow is that? It's about the story. It is always about the story. If the story matches the character and the story is interesting and compelling, then the film will work.

Hemingway, you are a God amongst men! Thank you!

We need more optimistic views like this one!

It may interest you to know that I am doing articles for TFC and TIE for this very same subject.

Canyon wrote: Hemingway, you are a God amongst men! Thank you!

We need more optimistic views like this one!

It may interest you to know that I am doing articles for TFC and TIE for this very same subject.

Thank you, Canyon, that's very sweet of you to say.
And I will definitely check those articles out.

Obviously, if the story calls for a man of a bit more maturity and we buy the story because it is so well done, then we are in for a great film. Some people are so simplistic in their views and so foolish to criticize something they haven't seen.

Take this for instance: Cary Grant, handsome guy, made "Gunga Din" when he was very young, around 30, I think. Imagine if someone had said that he shouldn't make another film after say, 45 because he looked too old, in their opinion. Some of Cary Grant's best films were made at the end of his career and they were action movies! "Charade," "To Catch A Thief," and "North by Northwest" for instance, both made while Cary was in his mid to late fifties.

I'll reserve my criticism until I have something tangibile to criticize.

Hemingway , those are a couple of my favorite films ( and I agree).

Hemingway Jones wrote:
I'll reserve my criticism until I have something tangibile to criticize.

Nicely put!

Look at Clint Eastwood. He's a nice looking older man who was doing action movies even at an older age. You need to have men of an upper age on screen so all the grandmas can have someone to swoon over.

I dont think you can have an Indy4 without Ford.....He just cant be replaced. There is only one Indiana Jones in my book!

Hemingway Jones wrote:Obviously, if the story calls for a man of a bit more maturity and we buy the story because it is so well done, then we are in for a great film.

Hemingway and others have hit on the crux of the biscuit: the story. The problem with League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and others like it (Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow leaps to mind) was that they depended on something other than a solid story. LXG counted on Connery carrying the movie, and Sky Captain counted on their slick effects. Didn't work and never will work.

Hemingway, you are dead on. The STORY is what will make the movie a success or not. While I'm not thrilled that Harrison is now in his 60's and looks it, ( I'm about to turn 50 myself and while I still look in my late 30's, I still hate it!) I think an intelligent storyline is the key. Harrison, I'm sure will get into shape and try to play an Indy in his mid 50's. Still, the physical action seen in the earlier films will have to be curtailed to make it seem believable. I think a good plot would be something to do with Nazi's hiding in 50's Argentina, or somewhere in South America, and while Indy is there searching for some ancient artfact believed to have supernatural healing powers perhaps he runs into Joseph Mengalie and his gang who may be looking for the same thing. "I HATE THOSE GUYS". ... I guess I should have written the screenplay for this thing!

M.L. Jones

Renderking Fisk wrote: [*]They're using AdventureBilt fedora's

binkmeisterRick wrote:I think it'd be cool if they used AdventureBilts!

Well, this would be good for Steve, yeah. Of course, it would consume most of his time! They would most likely want several hats, possibly 10+, and that would set our man back, time wise, for quite awhile!

Regards,

M.L. Jones wrote:... While I'm not thrilled that Harrison is now in his 60's and looks it, ( I'm about to turn 50 myself and while I still look in my late 30's, I still hate it!) I think an intelligent storyline is the key.

This is a very interesting thread, I definitely think Ford can do it - and I agree with what people said about older actors on screen being a good thing. Modern make-up is pretty good though, I have no doubt they'd be able to do some "holy grail" work on him to help him look more youthful - without compromising on the character of his face. I expect they could get away with stunt doubles for a great deal of the action - and this counts on clever direction which I have no doubt they have in abundance.

I look forward to seeing Harry back in action, heck I miss seeing more mature actors in film these days. Like a fine wine, some things just get better with age. I just can't identify with all these actors and singers who are pretty much in a certain limited age-group, we need balance. Sorry about that, didn't mean to filibuster! 8-[

well when Indy 4 comes out i will go see it opening day in full Indy gear and hopefully Harrison Ford will play Indy one more time.if they get another actor i would still go see it but i would be dissapointed.

Renderking Fisk wrote:They've left the Soap by the sink... no "Days of Our Lives" plot twists.

Do you watch Days of Our Lives?

Jpevh wrote:Well when Indy 4 comes out I will go see it opening day in full Indy gear.

Me Too!

Right on dude, Represent.

No ford as indy and I won't go see it.

jpenman wrote:No ford as indy and I won't go see it.

to me it would depend on who they chose to play indy,if ford wasnt playing him.unless the movie looked really horrible id still go see it.

One day I saw interview with George on the TV and he said :
" Indy will be same as before, but just will groan a bit more."

The real Henry wrote:One day I saw interview with George on the TV and he said :
" Indy will be same as before, but just will groan a bit more."

Thats good to hear,I think

I agree, Harrison is Indiana. I trust George to deliver a great movie regardless of how old Indy is. I look forward to the release and like everyone else the gear and props that will be suddenly thrust into our hobby!

Wrightknife

Do you think it would be possible to have an Indy movie with little to no action?
Could you see an Indy movie that was like a suspense thriller?

Nah - "Indy" IS action.
What would Raiders be without the Truckchase? Adventure and Action. That's Indy for me.

Ya I hear you but I dont no I think we could see an Indy movie with a Maltese Falcon kind of a feel to it and Id be happy with that.

HUh, when I first read your post I had to think of Han Solo (But it was "MALTESE", not "MILLENIUM" Falcon ).

Hmm, an Film Noir Indy could be interesting.

If a 55 year old Arnold Schwarzenegger can play an unaging cyborg in Terminator 3 I don't see a problem with Harrison Ford playing a finely aged Indy at 63.

That's right.

But I read that Indy will have a family !

The real Henry wrote:That's right.

But I read that Indy will have a family !

That's probably just a rumour?
though even if it was true...they'd surely find some way to make it work. And this isn't just lucas working on this movie...it's spielberg as well, and i have alot of confidence in him to make it worthwhile.

remember...Lucas, Spielberg AND harrison have to agree to make it...so surely it'd be good. It's not as if any of them really *need* extra money =P they'll make it because they want to make it because they'll have a decent story/script?

I just don't see an Indy 4 happening. Read in the Drudge Report a few weeks ago the question, "Has Spielberg lost his edge?" It mentioned his last two movies were only lukewarmly received (no titles mentioned) and after Spielberg and the producer(s) get their cut of War of the Worlds it will have to gross $400M worldwide to break even. Seems like several tons of money was spent on SFX. IMO a lukewarm Spielberg is like any other director red hot, but that's just me. On another, more morbid note, HF is well into what I call Death Zone 2 (so am I). Zone one starts at 50, when people start dying from causes other than accidents/trauma. In the last three years I've lost five friends from various things. I don't think anything is going to happen to HF but you never know.

Here's the latest, and it does sound encouraging.

Kathleen Kennedy Gives an Indy 4 Progress Report -

07-07-05 Posted by Aaron

Producer Kathleen Kennedy spoke with Now Playing Magazine about the next installment of Indiana Jones where she gave a very encouraging progress report on Indy 4. Here's a quick summary of the interview from Now Playing Magazine with Kennedy:

In the interview, Kennedy stated that "We're working on a screenplay. I know this sounds like something that we've been saying for 15 years, but I'm hoping that we're going to see something in a couple of months. Jeff Nathanson is working on the script right now... I will say this: If it comes in and we're all happy with it, it will be more than likely the next thing we do."

According to Now Playing Magazine, Kennedy stated that earlier reports that Nathanson's draft had been "approved" by Lucas and Spielberg were indeed true, but that didn't mean what we thought it did. "It's one thing to approve something, it's another thing to say it's greenlit and we're shooting it. So we're just in that sort of phase of finessing,"

When asked if she thought Ford was too old to play Indy, Kennedy responded, "No, I don't think so. Certainly we're not writing the script as though he's 20 years old. You know, Sean Connery spent a lot of time in the Bond role and whatnot. I think it's great that we can go make another Indiana Jones movie and Indy can be a little older. I think playing with that is a good thing."

Now Playing Magazine then asked if Indy 4 would take place in the 1950s, and Kennedy stated, "Ahhhh, yeah. The late '40s." An earlier timeline? According to Kathleen, that seems to be the case. She was then asked who the new bad guys were going to be, "I'm not going to tell you the story!" she laughs. "What do you think, I'm nuts?! You'll be here next year and ask me if I'm working on the Indy movie. 'No, I got fired!'"

This is very reassuring news. According to several previous reports, we're expecting to see an Indiana Jones 4 draft from Nathanson in the hands of The Big Three within two months, and with a little luck we'll have script approval shortly thereafter. Things are looking very good for Indy 4, so stay tuned to TIE.c for the latest!

From DarkHorizons.com:

The Indy Experience has landed what sounds like d.a.m.n good news in regards to the current status of the next "Indiana Jones" flick - "Steven has agreed in principal to Nathanson's Indy 4 script and is leaving his schedule open for Indy 4 after Munich is released. George Lucas and Jeff Nathanson are currently tweaking the Indy 4 screenplay. The tweaked draft for Indy 4 should be finished by the fall to be submitted for green light. Harrison Ford has agreed on the script as well."

Meanwhile, SKNR reports that according to their sources "Contracts are being negotiated and the ball is rolling. The deals are heavily back loaded with the three principals getting points, or a share of profits from ticket, DVD, and other revenue. Sean Connery is not slated to appear in the new film." If all this holds up, expect an early Summer 2007 release.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/050803i.php

Edit: Boy the profanity filter here is sensitive!