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And the winner is... (not)

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.. the predistressed cowhide after treating it with antique finish, sandpaper, sand, dirt and again with sandpaper.

Here are the pictures, what do you think?

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Well, I think the request for predistressed cowhide may rise a bit at Wested. Lookin' good, my friend.
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best job ive ever seen!

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Post by eaglecrow »

Thanks a lot. To me the jacket looks exactly what I was trying to get over years, but there are really few who gave the jacket some feedback yet :cry:
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Impressive.... most impressive... :wink:
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Post by Feraud »

I am not a 'distressing' type of guy but it looks good.

I have issues with the processes of distressing. I find people do too good(even) a job of it and the overall appearance is too 'smoothly distressed' for my tastes. I would prefer to see parts of jackets, boots, and gloves that are not distressed. I find it hard to see any item aging evenly. I have observed old jackets and boots and see parts falling off and areas unaffected by time and exposure.

Good job tho'! :wink:
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Yeah, I agree with you, Feraud. It's a nice job in terms of looking like the movie prop, but in terms of looking like realistic ageing, as it would actually happen over time... nope :)
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Post by Rabittooth »

Wow. Looks like the LC jacket in all the archive photos...exactly. Good job.

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Post by eaglecrow »

Thanks for the feedback, fellows!

I agree with you, it dosn't look like natural distressing. Maybe on some parts, but not on the whole jacket.
Nethertheless I guess I found a "close enough look" now. Ad since I've heard that it is allmost impossible to get a cowhide natural aged after many years I believe I've got allready the right jacket.

I will work a bit more on it, but you would not be able to tell the difference by any pictures.

But I guess I have to post a picture of me ion full gear anyway :)
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Post by Feraud »

BreinerIndy, another thing to keep in mind is you told us you are distressing your jacket. It is easy to comment on something when you already know the outcome. I am sure regular folks(non Gearheads) would have no idea that you distressed your jacket. The final effect you are looking for works out just fine! :)
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Pagey wrote:I think the most important thing is that this was a predistressed jacket. As we all know, the predist. hide is very evenly distressed and quite a light colour. As such it looks neither screen accurate not genuinely distressed. BI has made his predist. look amazing and very screen accurate - esp. for LC
I couldn't agree more. I am assuming it was the antique finish which gave it a darker and more lustrous look than the usual flat sand-paper-like look of some of the other pre-distressed jackets I've seen. I think it is a wonderful job.

To offer some constructive criticism, for what it is worth from me, but to my eyes, and I know nothing about distressing, but it seems that the lighter wear is a bit too concentrated around the seams, especially around the pockets. I would think that the wear should be around the seams of the arms and the body, but not necessarily around the pockets. I would also expect it on the upper back and shoulders resultant form squeezing into tight places.

Still, an absolutely awesome jacket! Excellent work. :D
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What is antique finsish and where do you get it?
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Post by eaglecrow »

Hemingway, you're right, about the concentration arround the seems, but I especcialy like this highlighted. The shoulders really need some more work. Not much, but a little bit.

You could find a post about antique finish and how I worked with it in the distressing section

So what what would YOU do with my jacket now? Any hobby distressers round here? :wink:
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:lol:
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Post by Hemingway Jones »

I second Pagey. That jacket looks great. Finish its distressing out on rocks, fields, cities, and monuments. :wink: :D
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Hemingway Jones wrote:I second Pagey. That jacket looks great. Finish its distressing out on rocks, fields, cities, and monuments. :wink: :D
You could always get dragged behind a truck :lol:
Looks great!
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[quote="BreinederIndy"].. the predistressed cowhide after treating it with antique finish, sandpaper, sand, dirt and again with sandpaper.

I'm sorry if you already said this, but I've been looking over your comments to get a brand and precise name for the antique finish you used and didn't find it. Do tell.
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Post by eaglecrow »

Welcome to the board!

It is called "antique finish". It's a product of Fiebings:

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I can not recoment it for a daily use jacket any longer!

I gave my jacket the second coat now and the collour is, again, fading. If applyed and worked in correct, it looked absolutly PERFECT on my jacket, but when I hit a wall with it the white paint on it turned black. If you want it just for display, fanmovie or speccial occasions, go for it.
I'm sorry to say this at last, esspeccialy since I really thought my fate for the best artificial distressing have come to an end. Well, it seems that I was wrong.
I still use antique stains and antique finish in some of my leather projects, especcialy leather carved products, but that's it
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Thank you for the greeting :D And thank you for the new info as I'm sure others would want to know that with your experience with antique finish it really really doesn't last long at all. Very good to know. I think everyone who reads this thread will now have the full story on your beautiful jacket now before then decide.

I am attempting to learn all I can from the experienced distressers that are posting here before I decide how to alter my jacket. I only wish I had found this forum before I ordered my first wested! :?
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Ok there is nothinng quite like flying your newb colors if it isn't quoting yourself in an original reply. YES! Ok so I have a little learning to do about posting :oops:
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Ransom wrote:Ok there is nothinng quite like flying your newb colors if it isn't quoting yourself in an original reply. YES! Ok so I have a little learning to do about posting :oops:
Welcome, Ransom! *Hint* there's an edit button next to the Quote button. ;)
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Ransom wrote:Ok there is nothinng quite like flying your newb colors if it isn't quoting yourself in an original reply. YES! Ok so I have a little learning to do about posting :oops:
:lol: Welcome abord. We won't hold it against you. (much) :wink:
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BreinederIndy wrote:...but when I hit a wall with it the white paint on it turned black.
It rubs off on things? Is that what you're saying?
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I think the jacket looks fantastic, I'm very impressed, I would get a Predist based soley on those pics, but I'm afraid i'm probably not that skilled at distressing... by the way, I couldnt help noticing the cool stand that you have your jacket and hat on, mind if I ask where it came from? :c)
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Yeah, the dark collour rubs off. In some way I still think that it must be possible to fix the AF on the leathersurface. I also tried it with "tandy leather balm" and "tandy leather Atom wax" but I really gave up. I know a well known leather artist, he may help me out. I have to ask him this summer. But I won't do another job on the jacket any more in any way.

Well, I normaly use the jacket stand to display my R.C.M.P. "mountie" uniform, but I use it to display a medieval/fantasy leather amrour right know. Unfortunaly, not at home where I can enjoy it :cry:
I bought it on a really big fleemarket here in Graz, where you can go for real arkhunts 3 times a year. I got it for 40$

Back to distressing, there is once which have to be sayed: The great outcome of the distressing is partly becouse the jacket is allready well worn in. I'm wearing it in the 5. year

Here is a picture I allready posted in here. This was when ca. 60-80% of the first AF coat allready faded, shortly before I decided to give it another coat:

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BreinederIndy wrote:.. the predistressed cowhide after treating it with antique finish, sandpaper, sand, dirt and again with sandpaper.

Here are the pictures, what do you think?

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Is this authentic brown or the "dark" brown predistressed jacket? I recently ordered a wested under the impression that they only sell the predistressed in a dark brown or so I was told.
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Post by eaglecrow »

I don't know if the precow do have a collour speccificasion?? Aren't precows allways very light colloured?
Who knows?
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BreinederIndy wrote:I don't know if the precow do have a collour speccificasion?? Aren't precows allways very light colloured?
Who knows?
Yeah I just wondered if all the nice distressed jackets I've seen posted started out as dark brown. Because the dark brown before distressing is really really dark, like almost black. I suppose I was just trying to guess as to what mine will look like :roll: because the anticipation is starting to build for me [-o<
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Ransom wrote:
BreinederIndy wrote:I don't know if the precow do have a collour speccificasion?? Aren't precows allways very light colloured?
Who knows?
Yeah I just wondered if all the nice distressed jackets I've seen posted started out as dark brown. Because the dark brown before distressing is really really dark, like almost black. I suppose I was just trying to guess as to what mine will look like :roll: because the anticipation is starting to build for me [-o<
See my recent post on leather samples to see some examples of most of the leather including cow.
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IndyDoc wrote: See my recent post on leather samples to see some examples of most of the leather including cow.
Ok that was very helpful! Thank you IndyDoc :)
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No problem, glad it helped. :D
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