Got BOIC specs? What do you think?

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Sep 16, 2002 11:42 am

Has anyone got the BOIC specs lately? I am looking into getting a pair (my first pair of glasses ever) and wanted to hear any comments. I have been trying on glasses at different places and I just don't have the styling sense. Small, large, round, oval they all look the same to me. So, I figure I might as well run with the frames that I want. Any general or specific comments are greatly appreciated.

Pyroxene

Minnesota Jones · Post by **Minnesota Jones** » Mon Sep 16, 2002 12:00 pm

I just ordered a pair not too long ago. Didn't have my updated prescription so I brought them to Vision World and got updated and ordered the lenses. I'll have them back in a day or two. But Frames Direct is very fast in getting them out. Get the cables if you want the correct version, but be ready for your ears to have to get use to them. My first pair of glasses 10 years ago were cables, I wanted Indy glasses even then, but they did hurt at first. And they will look big, so check out the size of the lenses and order accordingly. My other pair of glasses I used as Indy (gold, but no cables, regular arms) were 49 mm, so that's what I ordered - 49/22 cable. But measure them out first and you may want a smaller size. I'll report again once I get them back and wear them for a couple days.

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Sep 16, 2002 12:35 pm

So here are the measurements I think I need to pay attention to:

Eye:
Bridge:
Pupil Distance:

Since these are cable, the Temple measurement doesn't matter, correct?

Minnesota Jones · Post by **Minnesota Jones** » Mon Sep 16, 2002 1:02 pm

I'd go to FramesDirect site. You can click on BOIC under the glasses section on IndyGear. Or here's the link:

http://www.framesdirect.com/framescatal ... y=1&page=0

But yes, arm length will not matter with cables. But the bridge size (nose) looks to be set based on if you order "regular arms" or "Cables"
And pupil distance I think would be part of the lenses/prescription. Hope all that helps out.

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Sep 16, 2002 1:30 pm

Cool. I figure if they don't look right, eh. <shrug> I have more than one pair of shoes, I will probably own more than one pair of glasses.

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Sep 16, 2002 1:35 pm

I just found out that FramesDirect is in Houston near where I used to live. I think I will stop by on Friday when I am in town to try on a pair to get the correct size. Stay Tuned.

IndyMo · Post by **IndyMo** » Mon Sep 16, 2002 7:42 pm

I'm going on friday for a new RX - guess what frames I'm going for as well.
Looks like I won't be the only one with sore ears.

Mo

Minnesota Jones · Post by **Minnesota Jones** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 12:12 pm

Well, I just got them back. Great looking eyeballs! My new prescription is different (stronger) and will take some getting use to. But the BOIC's, excellent. And the 49mm width of the lenses isn't as bad as I thought. They fit me pretty good. Another satisfied customer... Now I just have to get use to the calluses I'm going to develope behind my ears... ouch!

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 1:30 pm

I've worn wire framed glasses on and off (no pun intended) for years. My current frames are actual mid 1930's versions that I picked up in an antique shop here and had my current prescription installed. These are TRUE gold filled wire frames, and after about a week you don't even notice they're on. I recently picked up another pair of frames and had a second back up pair made. Something to consider if you're REALLY wanting REAL 1930's era glasses....look around in antique stores! They're everywhere, and actually made WAY better than any frames currently available in quality of material. Be sure to shop around, though. I've seen one pair of frames priced for well over $50 in one store, and only $4.50 in another in identical condition. I'm serious. Regards. Michaelson

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 2:17 pm

I really want my pair now.

falconau · Post by **falconau** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 6:23 pm

I agree with Michaelson. I've got two pair of the Indy frames, and I've seen many pairs of similar frames in antique shops which beat the heck out of the BIOC 1930's repros for quality of build and robustness.
It may take a couple of weeks to hunt around to find the right pair, but you'll pay a fraction of the cost for a better item.
Don't be impatient, just think of it as your own quest for a lost relic. Scouring antique shops is often called 'urban archaeology'.
Also, get the smallest size lenses possible - otherwise you'll feel more like fearless fly than Indy.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 6:50 pm

I hadn't thought of that. Fortunately, I gravitated toward the smaller lens anyway, and it worked perfectly. Larger lenses would indeed give you the old bug on the windshield look. High regards. Michaelson

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 9:41 pm

I don't see me wearing them that often. They will help with reading and in the classroom. But general conversation and such I can do just fine. I'll probably be like Jones and just pull them out when I need them.

Indiana Texas-girl · Post by **Indiana Texas-girl** » Wed Sep 18, 2002 12:26 am

Minnesota_Jones wrote:Now I just have to get use to the calluses I'm going to develope behind my ears... ouch!

Just put a good dousing of Vaseline behind your ears before you go to bed at night.

Minnesota Jones · Post by **Minnesota Jones** » Wed Sep 18, 2002 10:26 am

Indiana Texas-girl wrote:Just put a good dousing of Vaseline behind your ears before you go to bed at night.

I may have to. My ears be a'hurtin' today. Oh man, OUCH!

They won't break in if I don't wear 'em, but still..... my first glasses 10+ years ago were cable arms and I don't remember them hurting like this. Maybe I blocked the pain from my memory?

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Wed Sep 18, 2002 11:13 am

I just ordered myself a pair of BOIC's yesterday too. With a lot of help from my good friend, Rundquist. It's been on my "To Do" list for about a year, and yesterday I decided to get it off the "To Do".

I wanted to bring in my current prescriptions (a very slight astigmatism) to see if I can copy the prescription's off my old ones, but I needed to get an eye exam, darn.

( So, I checked my health plan, which would have required me to go to my HMO physician, that would then get me a referral to a "Optometrist" that's on the HMO plan, that would get me a prescription that I can send into FramesDirect. That sounded a little convoluted and a lot of wasted motion. I walked into the local Wal-Mart, and received an eye exam. Thirty minutes later and $49 poorer, I walked out with a prescription for long distance and reading. I reviewed the entire prescription with the doctor and noticed that pupil distance was not filled in. The doctor mentioned that the opticians do that. Sigh... I see a long line there and walk out, thinking it's not important.

This is the fun part, I go online at FramesDirect and fill in my prescription and they DO NEED PUPIL DISTANCE. I give them a call and ask if they can guesstimate. NO, was the answer. so back to the car to get my pupils measured.

Anyway, I recorded the above for anyone that is about to go on this adventure, since it is worth it, but convoluted.
- select the BOIC eyewear from framesdirect
- select the Beaufort P3 G.F. from a long list of BOIC eyewear
- select your lens diameter (41 to 51mm diameter)
I chose 49mm, but that was after a lengthy visit to the optician where we looked at the best proportion to my face. I didn't want to get the smallest diameter, since I wanted to avoid looking like John Lennon. Nothing wrong with John, since he is my favorite beetle.
- select the "cable" version for your diameter and not the temple width
- select your vision lens
standard, polycarb, etc.
- select "ADD to Cart"
- a popup comes up which requires you to fill in the prescription
your right, left eye sphere, cylinder, axis
and YOUR PUPIL DISTANCE (VERY IMPORTANT)
- then you need to select how the prescription can be verified
by either selecting you are faxing, emailing a jpeg of the prescription, or allowing FramesDirect to call your doctor.
- you then submit the prescription form and proceed to enter your credit card details with shipping address

I must say, from start to finish, all the above took 2 hours. Including phone calls to Adam, phone calls to HMO (screw them), travel to Wal-Mart twice, entering in the order form at FramesDirect.

Wheww, I hope the next person as much fun as I did. I hope this helps with anybody that goes down this path.

-Sergei

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Wed Sep 18, 2002 12:08 pm

That's some great advise. I will be going down that path very soon. I'll post my pics when I get them. Then I can do the glasses, leather jacket and no hat look that we see in ROTLA.

Rundquist · Post by **Rundquist** » Wed Sep 18, 2002 3:03 pm

The most common complaint is that you need to get used to the cables pulling the glasses up against your face. When I first got mine I thought that they were unwearable because of this. Instead of "getting used" to the cables I just bent them out until the glasses didn't pull against my face. They were instantly comfortable. That's my best advice. Cheers

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Sep 18, 2002 3:13 pm

But if you wear bifocals, you'll figure that out REAL fast. (grins) Regards. Michaelson

Minnesota Jones · Post by **Minnesota Jones** » Wed Sep 18, 2002 3:38 pm

My friend I sit next to at work had a GREAT idea too. The little end of the cable that wraps around and "digs" into your ears, hense my pain, can be bent as well. Just the last 1/8 of an inch or less, it's a little ball on the curved "springy" part, you can bent that outward a little bit. That way it holds to your ear and doesn't dig it's way in. They feel MUCH better from just that little fix.

Oh, I also had to bend the arms out a bit too as they were digging in the sides of my head. Problems solved. Now I just have to get use to the new prescription....

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Wed Sep 18, 2002 3:59 pm

Sounds like these glasses have a lot of adjustments to be made to fit correctly. Oh well. It wouldn't be IndyGear if they didn't.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Sep 18, 2002 4:23 pm

All cable or wireframes take a bit of 'tweaking' to make them work for each individual. I've found it takes around 2 to 3 weeks to get a pair to finally settle where they're going to ride on my face. At least that's been my experience to date. Now you know why the industry changed the styles to the solid frame. Like you said, if it were easy, we wouldn't be fooling with them. (grins) Regards. Michaelson

Arizona Smith · Post by **Arizona Smith** » Fri Sep 20, 2002 7:15 pm

Folks

If you care to send your opinions, experiences, etc. to me at: arizona_smith@indygear.com, I will collate and add to the the BOIC section of the Other Gear page, if any additional info emerges.

I intend to get around to a graphic and instructions for sizing. It's on my list of To Do's for the site.

Regards
Arizona

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 9:22 am

Well, on Friday I visited FramesDirect in Houston. I barely made it in under the wire. Everybody had their bags and were getting ready to leave. I spoke to Lewis and he dropped his laptop bag sized me up for a pair of frames. Everyone who was there was really friendly.

On the way down I noticed this message on FramesDirect's site.

BOIC, Inc. will be closed from Sept. 19, 2002 to October 4, 2002, and FramesDirect will process orders as soon as it becomes available.

I guess it wouldn't be IndyGear if there wasn't some kind of wait. They do offer another brand of frames that looks really similar to the BOIC.

BOIC Beaufort P3 G.F.

Berkshire Chase English Beaufort 2

The Berkshire Chase are less than the BOIC by about $55. More information can be found out here.

I am thinking about getting a pair as my "travel" pair. I will let you know more as things develop.

Cheers,
Pyro.

Minnesota Jones · Post by **Minnesota Jones** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 9:25 am

Did you actually order a pair Pyro, and what size? 49mm? 47mm? I'll still shoot you a picture from this weekend if you like of the 49mm on my face for their "size" if you haven't made up your mind on a size yet.

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 9:43 am

No, I ordered a pair of BOIC. Lewis sized me up for a 51/22-Cable. The biggest they had because he said that the way the frames are made, the ear pieces would rub on my temples if I didn't. I guess that is where hat size comes into play. When you look at the picture of the BOIC frame, you can see that there is no extension on the side to make the ear pieces stick our further.

As far as the wait, I have gone 30 years without glasses, another few weeks ain't gonna hurt.

Minnesota Jones · Post by **Minnesota Jones** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 12:17 pm

Arizona Smith wrote:Folks

If you care to send your opinions, experiences, etc. to me at: arizona_smith@indygear.com, I will collate and add to the the BOIC section of the Other Gear page, if any additional info emerges.

I intend to get around to a graphic and instructions for sizing. It's on my list of To Do's for the site.

Regards
Arizona

I'm going to get a picture of me to Pyro asap (should have it tonight) for him to post in this thread of me wearing my 49mm width BOICs. Maybe we can post a number of pictures to incorporate into the main site of different people wearing different/same sizes so we can "eyeball" which size would look best on us? And we could also include our hat size and height - I'm a 1/4 short of 7 1/8 hat size and 5'8" tall for example.

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 3:17 pm

Well, my BOIC eyewear come in. They are really nice. I like how they look. However, I wear a 7 1/2 hat size and the 51/22-Cable are medium size on me. However, I tried them on with a jacket and tie and I think they look sharp. Really nice. I will post some pics this evening.

Pyroxene

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 6:17 pm

Here they are.

And a detailed shot of the glasses themselves.

FramesDirect has a virtual frame finder where you can try on frames to see how they look.

http://www.framesdirect.com/framefinder.asp

For The Best Results:
1. In a jpg or gif format.
2. Taken Straight on, no profile shots, please.
3. In color with no glasses on.
4. Photo taken no farther than 3 feet away.
5. Size - 4" X 6" or at least 350 pixels wide.

So, if you are wondering how they might look, here is a chance to "try" them on.

Cheers,
Pyro.

IndyMo · Post by **IndyMo** » Fri Oct 18, 2002 8:05 am

Well, I finally did it! I ordered a pair of BOIC's from Frames Direct today. I did it without the RX as I would feel more comfortable having my own optician fill the script. Besides, he can do the adjusting to my face and what ever tweeking that's needed. When I called Frames Direct last week they said it would be about (10) days to fill the order.

I'll keep everyone posted.

Mo

Minnesota Jones · Post by **Minnesota Jones** » Fri Oct 18, 2002 10:58 am

IndyMo wrote:Well, I finally did it! I ordered a pair of BOIC's from Frames Direct today. I did it without the RX as I would feel more comfortable having my own optician fill the script. Besides, he can do the adjusting to my face and what ever tweeking that's needed. When I called Frames Direct last week they said it would be about (10) days to fill the order.

I'll keep everyone posted.

Mo

Welcome to the BOIC club. You won't be disappointed. But like Michaelson said, wire frames do need tweaking, so don't be surprised when you or your eye doctor have to do some bending here and there on those arms. But when done, you'll be very pleased with them.

IndyMo · Post by **IndyMo** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:39 am

Your not going to believe this - I just received a phone call from Frames Direct - BOIC no longer carries my frame size 51/22. Now what do I do.

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 11:59 am

That's odd. I wonder if they are just out and have to make more. Hmmm... You could try the Berkshire model. But, BOIC hasn't stopped making that size. Please keep us posted.

Does anyone have the contact information to BOIC? Maybe our friends in England can help.

IndyMo · Post by **IndyMo** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 3:18 pm

I spoke with (Don) in California - who is the only distributor that Frames Direct uses for the BOIC model. He states that the 51/22's are still made he is having shipping problems with BOIC (what ever that means). SO, I called Candice @ FD again & will have to have my size on "back order". God knows when I'll get them. Looks like you got the last Large size (pyroxene). Arrrrgh - how frustrating!!!!!

Mo!

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 9:36 pm

IndyMo wrote: He states that the 51/22's are still made he is having shipping problems with BOIC...

WHEW! That is good news. Well, remember that they took a break in late September. Maybe they are ramping up production after that time off with a bunch of back orders.

IndyMo, please keep us updated.

Pyro.

IndyMo · Post by **IndyMo** » Tue Oct 22, 2002 7:41 am

Will Do!

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Nov 25, 2002 11:36 pm

IndyMo,
Any word on the glasses?

Just wondering,
Pyro.

IndyMo · Post by **IndyMo** » Tue Nov 26, 2002 7:24 am

Pyro,

Funny you ask - I just sent another email to frames direct to follow up. My original order was 10/18/02. Hope it's worth the wait. Thanks for asking.

Mo

Got BOIC specs? What do you think?

Got BOIC specs? What do you think?

You'll do fine

Excellent point

True

Besides bending the cables a bit.....

Actually