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Another Screen Used "Indy" whip on ebay

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:25 pm
by midwestwhips
I don't know if anyone else saw this but there is the whip used by River Pheonix from Last crusade up on ebay.

Type in Whip and go to highest prices first.

I don't know if it's legit or not. The seller is in the U.K. and they say they are Elstree Studios.

It bothers me that they don't have an actual picture of it. You can see the popper in the first pic only.

Here's the description:
This is one of the pieces we were never going to sell, but needs must, and we are financing a new project! So someone will get to own one of the most important pieces of Movie history around.

This auction is for the actual whip used in the Circus Train scenes in INDIANA JONES - The Last Crusade starring Harrison Ford, Sean Connery and the late River Phoenix. In these memorable scenes River Phoenix plays Indiana Jones as a young man. In the scene in the Lions carriage when he is confronted by the Germans, he grabs a lion tamer's whip from the wall. He tries to use it, but is not very succesful. This sets the precedent for his future where a whip becomes his most famous trademark.

There were two whips used in this scene, a 6' and an 8' one. The 8' one is the one he actually takes from the wall, but due to the lack of space (and maybe lack of expertise) it was too dangerous so a 6' whip was substituted for the fight sequence. We have both and are keeping the smaller one for display here at Elstree Film Studios, home of Star Wars and the Indiana Jones trilogy. The 8' whip is the one in the auction. We are deliberately not showing the entire whip to prevent unscrupulous replication!

The display case pictured has seen better days, it has been on display here for a long time, so as a bonus if required we will include for the winner a custom designed brand new display case. This display will contain a full colour screen running the relevant clips, complete with sound subject to us gaining appropriate permissions which we will seek. In addition, the display will have a custom designed backdrop featuring the relevant scenes. We will work with the winner to make this unique, all included in the price! The unique lighting system will be remotely controlled, and will react to sound! You can see this demonstrated on our website. This will be a very special display case, a totally unique display fitting for such a superb piece!

We will give full provenance to the winner, including a signed letter from Nick Harrison who had the licence to store and preserve LucasFilms props in the UK. This was one of Nick's favourite pieces. We do have other pieces from the trilogy, but they are not for sale, just this piece! My father's company Norank Eng. Co. Ltd. were the resident studio engineers at Elstree Film Studios and received credits for their work, again see provenance on our website.

We are starting this auction at just $1, we are confident that eBayers will be aware of the true value and that we will achieve a realistic value for this excellent piece. We want lots of people to see the auction and afterwards visit the Anthony Nolan Trust's site. Even if we only get a small percentage of you to register, that's great!

We sold an original brown whip and hat from the first film nearly ten years ago at Sotherbys for £42,000, and a brown indy whip sold for $40,000 last month on eBay. Some will condsider this more valuable, some less, it's up to you so have a go! Good luck! We will pay any shipping too!

We may add some more teaser pictures, but this is the rarest whip, and we don't want anyone except the winner knowing the full details!
Thoughts anyone... ?

Regards,

Paul Nolan
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:56 pm
by Mola Ram
paul,

Its very difficult to say. I really dont understand why they arent showing all of the pictures. It would be easy enough to get screen caps of the whip out of the film, so it makes no sense why they are worried about revealing how it looks. To me it is to good to be true so it probably is. But if its not, thats a fantastic deal there. I think they just need more pictures to prove that it is infact the real genuine deal.
Just my .02
Adam

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:13 am
by thefish
They kinda got their description of the scene wrong as well.

Germans?

That's later! :shock:

-Dan

And I don't know. The whole thing seems pretty sketchy to me. No pictures to prevent image stealing? WATERMARK them fer goodnessake! If you ARE Elstree Studios, then you MUST have a copy of PhotoShop around somewhere!

Jeez.. :roll:

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:18 am
by Ken
Check the other auctions - there is star wars stuff too and he gives more history about the invovlement with Lucasfilma dn elstree and that auction even offers a tour of elsetree!!

Ken

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:21 pm
by Indy Magnoli
I'm pretty sure that they are genuine, I've seen a lot of auctions lately from that address and they are all high-profile props. I think their auction is a bit paranoid, but my guess is that they're legit.

Kind regards,
Indy

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:28 pm
by Indiana Texas-girl
Yep, as Magnoli said they are legit. I've been following their auctions over the past few years, and they've had quite a few Star Wars screen seen props. This will be an interesting auction to watch. I noticed today that they posted the following:
If the auction vanishes, it has gone back into the archives, it is ours to sell, but we may be about to be made an offer we can't refuse from a far larger organisation with many lawyers :)
Sounds like Lucasfilm may be getting it. But what I'm wondering, isn't the property Lucasfilm's to begin with, so I'm wondering if they may be forced to hand it over. What do you guys think?