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wested color choice

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:32 pm
by belle
I know this topic has been touched upon in the past but I wasn't able to find the thread so I thought I would ask the experts. I've noticed that the 'authentic brown' lambskin looks a little lighter than the jacket color seen in the movies, espcially Radiers. But I have also noticed that when people distress thier jackets it seems to darken the leather. How do people feel about the authentic brown color compaired to the dark brown in terms of screen accuracy, and have there been significant color changes when they have distressed them?

Thanks,
Belle

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:52 pm
by Ken
Authentic brown lamb when distressed tends to have 'greyish' distressed areas whereas the darkbrown distressed areas tend to be more of a tan color. The differences are dependant on lighitng though:

Here is authentic brown lamb, distressed:

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Ken

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:53 pm
by Ken
Oh, and there was a reason for that photo, by the way

Ken :)

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:56 pm
by Indiana Jerry
Most distressing involves removing some of the color, lightening the jacket. (Primarily, when a cleaning fluid is used, like acetone generally is.)

As for the color, there's been a lot of discussion, but the authentic seems to do the job. Photos of it can vary in lighting, just as can the color adjustment of the film, as well as the differences in different TVs, projectors, and computer monitors.

So, since all of that is suspect, go back to the source - Peter based the Authentic Brown on the color of an unfinished jacket he had left over from one of the movies. That's pretty much as close to the horse's mouth as I need to get. :-s ;)

There's another post from a member (Alabama Jones) saying he had this same dilemma, went w/ authentic, and was happy. Take a look:
http://www.indygear.com/forum/viewtopic ... highlight=

P.S. I've got an authentic brown lamb, and I love the color. Looks dark like the temple scene in Raiders to me, but I know that w/ some time (and...maybe...w/ some acetone...MAYBE, Michaelson, I said maybe!) it'll look more like the Last Crusade jacket.

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:22 pm
by Heirphoto
Indiana Ken,
I saw your action photo posted before and just realized tonight that the vehicle is an early Series I Land Rover much like one I owned (1st of 4 actually). Quick gues from the gages puts it around 1952-53 or so, maybe an 80". But the seat backs look a bit later, maybe an 86".
Mine was a last of model year 1958 88" diesel Series I.

Now I miss it all over again.

Tony

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:51 am
by Ken
Actually that landrover (or Jeep as I accidentally kept calling it and getting told off for) belongs to our own English Adventurer her eon the board. Whereas I, as you can tell, couldn't really tell a Jeep from a Landrover.

You can find more pictures of it, before and after the crash, on my website

Ken :)

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:26 pm
by Heirphoto
Ken,
Checked the photos, yep, early 1950's 80" Rover. Quick second guess, internal door latches, sidelights in the bulkhead, headlights (headlamps, sorry) through the grill makes in a 1950-1951 I think. Man I wished I had that one!
Tony

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:48 pm
by belle
Thanks, I didn't think they called it "authentic" for nothing.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:07 am
by Alabama Jones
belle, I was just like you. At first I thought the authentic lamb looked "light" compared to the movie jacket. I was dead set on going to the dark side. But the more I read through these forums and paid attention to the BEHIND THE SCENES footage, I decided to trust Peter and go "authentic." I was not disappointed.

That being said, I will probably eventually get a TOD dark brown, (skin TBD) but for now ... at least I can say I've got an authentic Raiders jacket.

... And then a black Crusade, customized for motorcycle riding ... but I'm getting ahead of myself. :oops:

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:20 am
by Bogie1943
Thought I would post a few pics of my Auth. Lamb before and after distressing, sorry Michaelson, lol. I like the color, but I am more a dark brown fan. It was fun making this jacket look more film-like.


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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:34 am
by Bogie1943
These were taken minutes after I arrived home from my post office pick up adventure, wow, that's another story for another time. It's early in the morning and the skies are breathtaking!

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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:58 pm
by Lao Feng
very awesome!

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:23 pm
by Heirphoto
Josh,
Great pics, nice ageing job.

What is it about these jackets............suddenly I am realizing it is cold in the house...........better go put mine on instead of a sweater.

Tony

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:27 pm
by ob1al
In my opinion the authentic brown colour is 100% spot-on compared to what is seen on-screen in the movie jackets.

The dark brown is too dark and therefore not accurate.

Just my opinion based on what I have owned and seen.

Regards

Al

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:45 pm
by Bogie1943
Yes true, I do agree with that, I don't know, personally I am quite torn between the two. But I know this, this will be the last jacket I age, I am just not into it anymore. I think the next Wested I get will be the horsehide.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:09 am
by ob1al
Yeah, the horsehide does look like a nice bit of kit, for sure. Of course, its yet another colour, being a midway point between the authentic and the dark, with red undertones!

I think your current jacket looks great in this shot BTW!

<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/ ... 6d89fe.jpg>

Best,

Al

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:55 am
by Ken
I really like the aged look though it would be nice to have a non-aged Wested, but then I would only worry about it keep it looking brand new and that would defeat the purpose for the most part.

Josh, great looking jacket you have there as I said before. You really went to town on it

Ken

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 7:36 pm
by Bogie1943
Thank you for your praise fellas! Well, to address the screen accurate issue for me personally, I own four Indy Jackets, I am less concerned with screen accurate colors these days. I am more converned with getting what I like and I think the horsehide will do the trick for me. I mean sure I have plans to get more Indy jackets in the future, lol, crazy yes. I still want an accurate ToD and LC, but those can come later. I love horsehide, that and goat, really make a real Indy jacket I feel. I love lambskin as well, don't get me wrong, but goat and horse just have a certain rugged feeling to them.