Elsa's Lucky Charm Zippo Lighter:

Captain D · Post by **Captain D** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:34 pm

Has anyone purchased one of these from "Millenium Sports" for $35 off E-bay? If so, how well does the paint stay on....or does it chip off easily (the painted four-leaf clover)....?

Thank you for any replies!
Captain D

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:42 pm

IIRC, the clover on the eBay lighter is a sub-standard transfer sticker or something. It chips off and wears off quite fast.

For your Clover Zippo needs, contact esteemed board member Relic Raider. His clover badges are something else.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:57 pm

I agree... go for the RR version. It's art.

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:34 pm

I agree.. The RR lighter is my standard carry lighter.

Jordan · Post by **Jordan** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:49 pm

I might as well get in line with the rest of these guys by saying, RR's clover lighter's are above and beyond the best! Get one, you won't be sorry!

Captain D · Post by **Captain D** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 1:23 am

Thank you all for your replies!

It is good to hear that "Relic Raider's" lighter is of good quality...and that it seems that his painted green clover stays on and doesn't chip off relatively easy.....

For those of you who have purchased one, how much did you pay for it, and is the best way to contact Relic Raider is through a PM here at COW?

Thank you once again!
Captain D

Relic Raider · Post by **Relic Raider** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:15 am

Captain D wrote:Thank you all for your replies!

It is good to hear that "Relic Raider's" lighter is of good quality...and that it seems that his painted green clover stays on and doesn't chip off relatively easy.....

The clover can't chip because it's embedded in the badge. It's not painted on. Even if you scratch the living daylights out of the surface, the clover is still unharmed. Well, if you scratch deep enough you will ruin the clover. Don't try that!

For those of you who have purchased one, how much did you pay for it, and is the best way to contact Relic Raider is through a PM here at COW?

Thank you once again!
Captain D

Relic Raider prefers to be contacted via his email address, which is relic_raider@earthlink.net, but he will also check his PMs on a regular basis. As for price, it's still the same and it won't bust your bank.

Thanks to all for the free advertising. Pyroxene, thanks for sharing that picture, I hadn't seen it yet. Scandinavia Jones' picture is very slick, each time I see it.

Cheers,
-Relic Raider

VP · Post by VP » Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:54 am

Rob wrote:It's art.

Hello, and welcome back to another edition of "It's the arts". And we kick off this evening with a look at the cinema.

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:49 am

Captain D,

I'll join the ranks in recommending Relic Raiders' lighters. They are the best out there that I have seen. Much better than the ones put out by Zippo. But something that people forgot to tell you about Relic Raiders' lighters are that you have choices to make. He has the #200 lighter or a vintage, I believe it is 1941 lighter. You can get resin badges or all metal bages. They all are top quality and they all look great.

Captain D · Post by **Captain D** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 11:31 am

Thanks again for all of the replies!

Relic Raider has a PM!

High Regards to everyone!
Captain D

Marcus Petrius · Post by **Marcus Petrius** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 2:36 pm

I can only confirm what others have said. Great lighter for a great price.

Mike

Captain D · Post by **Captain D** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:24 pm

Just out of curiosity....It appears that there are different choices in his lighters. This may sound like a dumb question, but regardless of what type of lighter I choose, the clover image is just as sturdy on the lighter regardless of which lighter I choose? Does that make sense? lol...

In other words, the clover image is well placed on these lighters, and won't come off easily, regardless of which lighter I choose, correct?

Kindest Regards,
Captain D

Relic Raider · Post by **Relic Raider** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:59 pm

Captain D wrote:Just out of curiosity....It appears that there are different choices in his lighters. This may sound like a dumb question, but regardless of what type of lighter I choose, the clover image is just as sturdy on the lighter regardless of which lighter I choose? Does that make sense? lol... In other words, the clover image is well placed on these lighters, and won't come off easily, regardless of which lighter I choose, correct?

Kindest Regards,
Captain D

It's not a dumb question at all, but I'm not sure if I can give a clever or even satisfactory answer.

Each material is reasonably resistant for everyday use. The clover won't rub off either type badge. The three badge versions have different properties. A metal badge won't chip, but if you drop the lighter it might get dented or gouged. The epoxy resin badge is very abrasion resistant, but it can chip if hit hard enough. An advantage of the resin badges is the low weight, which lessens any impact if the lighter is dropped. The hybrid badge is very resistant and flexible. The urethane used does not chip or break. In the end, it's impossible to say which version is the most or least resistant, because you simply don't know if you will drop the lighter on concrete, if the dog will chew on it, or if a 5 year old gets ahold of it. You can't cheat fate! I suggest you simply choose what you LIKE best based on nothing but looks. One word of advice: if you choose the metal version, don't let it sit around anywhere, because sadly those lighters tend to get stolen. It's already happend twice!

And please, anyone else feel free to chime in, because you guys are doing most of the field testing, while I get sticky hands in the lab.

Cheers,
-Relic Raider

Captain D · Post by **Captain D** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:24 pm

Thank you for a speedy response!

I'm leaning towards the Hybrid #200 Clover Lighter I think....If you have one made up and ready to go, I may be able to purchase one at the end of next week!

Take care and keep in touch my friend!
Captain D

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 11:00 pm

I haven't seen your hybrid badges.... They black and silver look really cool.

Pyr

Relic Raider · Post by **Relic Raider** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:40 am

Pyroxene wrote:I haven't seen your hybrid badges.... They black and silver look really cool.

Pyr

Thanks Pyroxene. What can I say, I've got lighters on the brain.

The black and silver hybrid was a special order and I'm very happy with the gothic look. I've also made black badges with a green clover and I suspect there will be more variations. I can make the hybrid badges pretty much in any color. I'm afraid of Saint Paddy's Day.
I've also created an alternative to the bright white badges with the green clover. I use epoxy resin for an off-white hybrid badge that matches the color of the off-white coated resin badges. They look sort of like aged ivory and have a softer look than the bright white hybrids. I made them with a satin finish, but glossy is possible, because this is a heat-cured finish. Please click the links below to see the pictures.

Cheers,
-Relic Raider

Yellow mellow hybrid badges: http://home.earthlink.net/~relic_raider ... _white.jpg
Black badges with green clover: http://home.earthlink.net/~relic_raider ... _green.jpg

indybill · Post by **indybill** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:25 pm

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 5:38 am

The funniest thing is, of course, RRs lighter looks way, way, way better than even the actual movie prop. No lie!

Check out that Star Wars to Indiana Jones book which delves into the Lucas archive, and there's a good closeup of the Elsa lighter. The original is REALLY shoddy looking. LOL

VP · Post by VP » Mon Dec 27, 2004 7:17 am

I think that it looks pretty good.

Flattery · Post by **Flattery** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 7:21 am

Yeah, that looks infinitely better than the one in the archives book.

VP · Post by VP » Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:11 am

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:51 am

VP wrote:

This one must have been the one sent to have custom made for the movie. I just don't see how they are the same lighter.

Relic Raider · Post by **Relic Raider** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:49 am

It looks like there were a few, possibly different versions of the clover lighter used in the movie. The above prop seems to be painted with thick poster paint, and I mean thick! Or maybe it's like a thin, roughly painted badge. I doubt that Zippo put that together. It looks like something quickly assembled by a prop maker. The lighter that Henry drops on the carpet seems to have a slicker finish. The paint also catches fire when Henry blows on the flames. I wonder how many takes that scene required?

Cheers,
-Relic Raider

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Jan 01, 2005 7:15 pm

Maybe the lighter we see in the book is the lighter, and the other side is burnt?

(OK, I know on movies there are multiples of basically everything. Not really a big chance of it...)

Kris · Post by **Kris** » Sat Jan 01, 2005 8:08 pm

I can't wait for it to arive, it wshould arive starting the day after tomorrow