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Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:58 pm
by chuck2003
I a had no doubt they would do right to their customers. Stefan is a very helpful guy when I talked to him via email. I just think this was a case of over thinking it a bit. If they do a new run in the future I think I will wait until they are released. For now I'm going to put in in a order for the natural chromexal boots and call it a day
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:49 pm
by Noah
Yes those boots are nice in their own right, but as a "Raiders" boot it really isn't close. Must have been a real bummer to wait that long and receive something different than what you originally thought you would. Glad you guys were able to get refunds from them. Maybe a later run will come out with the right color leather.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:25 am
by MARQ
![Eh? :-s](./images/smilies/Indy_eh.gif)
I´d not give a HOOT about the correct colour because the boots Indy wore were USED and thus the colour has been worn off
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/Indy-rolleyes.gif)
It eventually does,if one wears ones boots every day as one should like one will...or will one,anyone??!! At least I will if and when I get mine...price you know
![Mad :x](./images/smilies/indy_mad.gif)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:57 am
by j_m_t
MARQ wrote:![Eh? :-s](./images/smilies/Indy_eh.gif)
I´d not give a HOOT about the correct colour because the boots Indy wore were USED and thus the colour has been worn off
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/Indy-rolleyes.gif)
It eventually does,if one wears ones boots every day as one should like one will...or will one,anyone??!! At least I will if and when I get mine...price you know
![Mad :x](./images/smilies/indy_mad.gif)
NO! I don't and wouldn't wear mine everyday. They are supposed to get a day of rest to dry out and let the leather go back to shape with a shoe tree.
this goes for every shoe, one of the reasons I'm trying to get another pair of hiking boots so I have two pairs of everyday shoe and my Indy's for when I want to feel pretty
![Happy :)](./images/smilies/IndySmile.gif)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:10 am
by Cajunkraut
j_m_t wrote:MARQ wrote:![Eh? :-s](./images/smilies/Indy_eh.gif)
I´d not give a HOOT about the correct colour because the boots Indy wore were USED and thus the colour has been worn off
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/Indy-rolleyes.gif)
It eventually does,if one wears ones boots every day as one should like one will...or will one,anyone??!! At least I will if and when I get mine...price you know
![Mad :x](./images/smilies/indy_mad.gif)
NO! I don't and wouldn't wear mine everyday. They are supposed to get a day of rest to dry out and let the leather go back to shape with a shoe tree.
this goes for every shoe, one of the reasons I'm trying to get another pair of hiking boots so I have two pairs of everyday shoe and my Indy's for when I want to feel pretty
![Happy :)](./images/smilies/IndySmile.gif)
Agreed, jmt. Although I wonder if any of the screen used Aldens had
ever had shoe trees.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:53 am
by IndianaChris711
Well from the initial posting by Marc, I thought in his picture this new offering, the color is extremely lighter than what I was thinking. Personally I really like my other AB Alden boots, even though I mostly just wear them for interviews. I bought my other pair of Aldens in 2007 for $300, geez, I should I have bought another pair since these boots go for over $500+ now. I will have to post some pictures of my Aldens boots I wear pretty much everyday, looks great and still going. Probably will have to get them resoled pretty soon. For 550 Euros, I'm sorry, I'm not interested in these new offerings because of the cost and the look.
IndianaChris711
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:47 pm
by The Man with the Hat
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:07 pm
by whipwarrior
Yes, those are boots.
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/Indy-laugh.gif)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:27 pm
by Nightgoat
I think I have finally satisfied my obsession with the perfect pair/color of Alden Indy boots. This is a pair I've been wearing pretty regularly for almost a year now. They are the natural Chromexcel so you can see they have definitely darkened over time. Aside from wearing them as much as I can (they're about the most comfortable footwear I own!) I have applied maybe 2 coats of Pecard's dressing but that's it. What do you guys think?
Indoors, no flash:
Indoors with flash:
![Image](http://i58.tinypic.com/s4vy8y.jpg)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:55 pm
by whipwarrior
Those look GREAT! Wish mine were that dark already. I've had my natural cxls for a year now, applied various Pecards and Meltonian creams to them, plus sun tanning in an effort to accelerate the process. I'd like to get them at least 3x darker brown, but the leather is still a shade of light bronze. Granted, I've only worn them about a dozen times, and I do tend to baby them because they cost me half a grand, but still...
Anyway, NICE Aldens!!! They've
definitely got the
Raiders vibe!
![TOH :TOH:](./images/smilies/Indy-Hat-Tip.gif)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:11 am
by Indiana Strones
Judging by this pic I think the original AB color was very good.
![Image](http://www.sarednabworldprops.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1200&mode=view)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:52 am
by Jeremiah
What pic?
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:52 am
by Indiego Jones
The original color of the boots was not that dark.
Everything in that picture looks saturated, and too dark.
If you want to know the real color of the boots, just look at 70's Aldens.
Remember this was a standard factory made item. Not like the jacket, which was custom.
Ford brought his personal Aldens to the set. Most probably bought them only a couple of years before.
So, that's the hero boot. Standard Aldens 405 boot, from mid 70's
Cheers.-
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:15 am
by Stefan
Hi everyone,
we are currently preparing a new batch of these vintage Raiders boots from Alden.
The new leather has sparked quite some discussion here and I post a picture below of how they turn out after being worn for half a year.
As stated also above, the color fades into a much darker tone.
Please send us a pm or an email to
info@adventurebilt.com if you are interested to join this batch.
Best,
Stefan
![Image](http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/ABStefan/Bootsnewseries_zpsa349a186.jpg)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:52 am
by TheExit148
Are you changing anything with this new batch? Darker stitching on the uppers, but still the white stitching on the mocc toe?
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:09 am
by Jeremiah
Ha. My natural CXL ones will look this good in time and I paid a fraction of what these go for. Still nice though.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:18 pm
by Illinois James
Whip, thank goodness I invested in an awesome keyboard protector!!!
Hilarious!!!
I'd really like to see some of these boots from some of our members here from after a year of wear.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:26 pm
by whipwarrior
Well, you know... because Stefan / Stefon said it, so it
had to be done!
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/Indy-laugh.gif)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:30 pm
by Jeremiah
I would be more interested to see how they look out the gate. All I can say about my natural CXL is that they looked good out the gate and now look even better and it's only been less than a month wearing them. They have darkened considerably and without the red undertones of the 403.
So looking forward to seeing a pair of these out of the box. I could not afford them so I went with the natural CRX.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:47 am
by Stefan
TheExit148 wrote:Are you changing anything with this new batch? Darker stitching on the uppers, but still the white stitching on the mocc toe?
Hi, no we we're not changing anything for the batch. The color of the stitching matches the leather.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:15 pm
by whipwarrior
Everyone prepare for another batch of elephant hide Aldens...
![Image](http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag296/Rebel2003/AB%20Alden/20140320_173949_zpscd71f90d.jpg)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:36 pm
by Jeremiah
Those look good to me. If they are anything like my natural CRX. Won't take much to darken them up either.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:14 am
by Stefan
The aging and polishing makes a big difference to the color. We offer the service to do the initial treatment for everyone who is interested. It then takes only a little bit of repolishing after wearing and the color fades into what is seen on the last picture I posted.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:54 am
by Texan Scott
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:18 am
by Jeremiah
Here are my natural CXLs in natural Florida sunshine.
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This same pic in the shade, the boots show up even darker. Very similar to your first photo Texan.
The foot on the pedal looks like my pair of 403s especially how they look after scuffed up from working.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:24 am
by Texan Scott
If you can safely say that Ford wore his own pair of boots, and that he had only one pair, then it would appear the boots were cordovan, and that the darker studio lighting made them appear a different shade of brown..? At least it appears so? It hinges on how many pair.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:35 am
by TheExit148
No way the boots in Raiders are Cordovan leather. It's a dress leather, that is way more expensive then the regular leather. I don't even think 405's were available back then in that leather. Alden only offered the 405 in the standard "brown calf leather" which changed over the years due to suppliers.
I'm 100% convinced that these boots I found on Rakutan are the boots worn by Ford as the "Hero" boots. These are 70's deadstock.
![Image](http://i.imgur.com/ZamfkCw.jpg)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:39 am
by Texan Scott
The truck boots sure look cordovan, though?
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:51 am
by Jeremiah
Are you meaning cordovan brown color or horse leather? If leather those truck boots look nothing like cordovan leather to me.
Was that shot not already confirmed not to be Fords?
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:58 am
by Texan Scott
The truck boots look reddish brown to me.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:58 am
by Jeremiah
Definitely do.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:15 pm
by Texan Scott
Another thing about the truck boots is that the heel looks full, or new. Either this was a new pair of boots that had been distressed, or the heal had recently been resoled.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:20 pm
by Michaelson
Or they could have been those 'infamous' pair of Redwings we've heard so much about.
![CR :CR:](./images/smilies/Curator-Rick.gif)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:27 pm
by TheExit148
Texan Scott wrote:Another thing about the truck boots is that the heel looks full, or new. Either this was a new pair of boots that had been distressed, or the heal had recently been resoled.
The older Alden 405s had a black rubber stack; actual heel material/piece, then black rubber or leather stack. Alden has changed this as well.
![Image](http://i.imgur.com/MdLwC93.jpg)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:28 pm
by Texan Scott
![Razz :P](./images/smilies/Indy%20-%20Tongue.gif)
I dunno. more tribbles more troubles.
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/Indy%20-%20Wink.gif)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:37 pm
by Jeremiah
So a question about the AB boots.
I found some pics of them out of the box. Besides these being vegetable tanned calf leather and not chrome tanned, what is the main difference in color? The natural CXL has more of a brown tone to the light color while it looks like the AB ones have a more grey tone to the light color. Both age darker with some wear and polishing. Right?
The rest of the shoe looks the same aside from the vintage stamp inside. The biggest difference to me is the price.
I like both though.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:06 pm
by Stefan
Here's a snapshot of one of our pairs. A little bit shiny with all the light. Still shows what a warm, non red, milky chocolate they turn into over time, only using tender grease and care.
![Image](http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/ABStefan/20151026_22033611_zps1uxuly5m.jpg)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:38 pm
by Jeremiah
Looks good.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:27 pm
by Indiana Strones
whipwarrior wrote:Everyone prepare for another batch of elephant hide Aldens...
![Image](http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag296/Rebel2003/AB%20Alden/20140320_173949_zpscd71f90d.jpg)
Yellow Indy boots? C'mon...
![Shame on you [-X](./images/smilies/eusa_naughty.gif)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:28 pm
by Indiana Strones
Indiego Jones wrote:The original color of the boots was not that dark.
Everything in that picture looks saturated, and too dark.
If you want to know the real color of the boots, just look at 70's Aldens.
Remember this was a standard factory made item. Not like the jacket, which was custom.
Ford brought his personal Aldens to the set. Most probably bought them only a couple of years before.
So, that's the hero boot. Standard Aldens 405 boot, from mid 70's
Cheers.-
I wrote 'very good', not 'perfect'.
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/Indy%20-%20Wink.gif)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:47 pm
by Indiana Strones
Texan Scott wrote:The truck boots look reddish brown to me.
![Thumb's Up :tup:](./images/smilies/thumbs_up.gif)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:25 am
by Castor Dioscuri
I might be the only one, but I think these boots are fantastic. Is AB still taking orders?
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:53 am
by Indiana Strones
Castor Dioscuri wrote:I might be the only one, but I think these boots are fantastic. Is AB still taking orders?
For what I understand they are taking orders right now.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:20 am
by Jeremiah
And you are not the only one.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:13 pm
by lankywookiee
I think the Ab Aldens are fantastic. Had a second pair on order and was really disappointed to get the message in January that the order was being cancelled. Yes, they're too light in colour when they first arrive but I found they begin to darken quickly and continue to age into an increasingly darker shade.
Here are mine when they were new:
And here they are after 6 months of wear in a fluctuating British climate with a regular application of Alden Neutral boot cream:
![Image](http://i.imgur.com/K49r1Qj.jpg)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:57 pm
by whipwarrior
The 'new' photos resemble the natural chromexcel boots. Mine are basically the same hue after 2 years of light wear.
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:43 am
by Cajunkraut
TheExit148 wrote:No way the boots in Raiders are Cordovan leather. It's a dress leather, that is way more expensive then the regular leather. I don't even think 405's were available back then in that leather. Alden only offered the 405 in the standard "brown calf leather" which changed over the years due to suppliers.
I'm 100% convinced that these boots I found on Rakutan are the boots worn by Ford as the "Hero" boots. These are 70's deadstock.
I'm with Exit. Barring the reproduction of the deadstock in both color and leather, the mark will be missed again and again. How hard can it be.
![Brick wall ](*,)](./images/smilies/Indy_wall.gif)
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:24 am
by Dangerfreak
Crickey, the past two pages have been an interesting read, and apparently a cautionary tale for manufacturers claiming to have a definitive version of an Indy gear item. The screen shots posted up show quite a variety of boot shades within the same film. There are so, so many variables from the lighting, the level of distressing and environmental conditions such as, earthy jungle temple or desert sand. Even the colour balance on a T.V could effect what a person considers to be screen accurate. Is it even possible to get a definitive shade that pleases everyone?
Re: THE vintage Raiders boots from Alden...
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:36 pm
by whipwarrior
Nope. Those cherished
Raiders-era Aldens were manufactured in an obscure type of leather called unobtanium.
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/Indy-laugh.gif)