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Re: Original Grey Clipper Fedora in Raiders of the lost Ark.

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:23 am
by tedquinton
I was reading this thread hoping to get some info on the ribbon. I'm thinking it's black and slightly wider than the hero ribbon, say 1 3/4". Is there any consensus on this? As for the other specs, same as the hero?

Many thanks

Re: Original Grey Clipper Fedora in Raiders of the lost Ark.

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:51 am
by getoutofthelibrary
tedquinton wrote:I was reading this thread hoping to get some info on the ribbon. I'm thinking it's black and slightly wider than the hero ribbon, say 1 3/4". Is there any consensus on this? As for the other specs, same as the hero?

Many thanks
Oak will know. John?

Re: Original Grey Clipper Fedora in Raiders of the lost Ark.

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:34 pm
by Indiana Jeff
John can certainly chime in with his opinion, but best I can remember from threads here, the exact width of the ribbon has never been determined. As has been referenced throughout this thread, the color of the hat was hotly debated for years so getting a handle on the ribbon would be that much more difficult.

Shooting inside the confines of the plane led to having to use lenses with focal lengths that could somewhat distort the dimensions of the hat making measurements from screen grabs very difficult.

I think the consensus here is the clipper hat was the same dimensions, including ribbon, as the brown hat.



Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Re: Original Grey Clipper Fedora in Raiders of the lost Ark.

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:36 pm
by Michaelson
....and those dimensions were:

The specifications for the actual hat Ford wore are reportedly as follows:
Size: 7 ¼ (size 58 European)
Crown: 5 ½ (5.5) inches
Brim (front & back): 2 ¾ (2.75) inches
Brim (sides): 2 5/8 (2.625) inches
Ribbon: 1 ½ (1.5) inches (39mm)
(from the main site)

Regards! Michaelson

Re: Original Grey Clipper Fedora in Raiders of the lost Ark.

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:22 pm
by tedquinton
Thanks for that. To me the ribbon looked wider,but perhaps that's just lens distortion.

Cheers

Re: Original Grey Clipper Fedora in Raiders of the lost Ark.

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:11 pm
by darthjones
I ordered a gray Raiders in the late 1980's from HJ. It is definitely the right color from what I can tell but over the TOD block I think. A friend of mine has it now and I will try to get a picture.

But same proportions as my HJ brown, ribbon and all.

Re: Original Grey Clipper Fedora in Raiders of the lost Ark.

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:37 pm
by cropdustdair
darthjones wrote:I ordered a gray Raiders in the late 1980's from HJ. It is definitely the right color from what I can tell but over the TOD block I think. A friend of mine has it now and I will try to get a picture.

But same proportions as my HJ brown, ribbon and all.
Oh I want to see pictures...bad! Please post them as soon as you can.

Re: Original Grey Clipper Fedora in Raiders of the lost Ark.

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:30 am
by tedquinton
Pictures would be great.

Re: Original Grey Clipper Fedora in Raiders of the lost Ark.

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:32 pm
by getoutofthelibrary
BendingOak wrote:Are we forgetting that Steve Delk got confirmation that in fact Indy wears a grey travel hat. The steel grey looks nice but I would have went with charcoal as it is closer to the original color grey.
I would never argue with you John, seriously... I absolutely respect your knowledge...but, I went with the Steel Gray based on this first pic (knowing that different lighting affects colors sharply, I just prefer this color to the one in the second picture of the Big Nazi on the street in what appears to be the same hat, possibly even the same hat Indy wears on the Clipper):

MOD EDIT: Photos were removed as they were owned by a banned member of COW.

Sorry, didn't know. I try to stay out of all the brouhaha. :Plymouth:

Re: Original Grey Clipper Fedora in Raiders of the lost Ark.

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:29 pm
by baddates1
Are there any pics of the Nazi's ribbonwork? If there is one, and also one on the Clipper hat, we may have something here :D

Re: Original Grey Clipper Fedora in Raiders of the lost Ark.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:05 am
by Texan Scott
it looks so goofy, haha! They must have run out of hats.

Re: Original Grey Clipper Fedora in Raiders of the lost Ark.

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:46 pm
by indydude18
Image

In my opinion, when the hats are directly compared next to each other, it seems as though the ribbon on the Clipper is slightly wider.

I think the Clipper ribbon is 42mm compared to the ~39mm of the Hero fedoras. I know other members think so as well.