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Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:04 pm
by moses
My only concern with goat is that it can look rather plasticy. That first pic looked good - i assume that is the shrunk lamb, which I believe is verg tanned?

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:59 pm
by kwad
Soft goat shortly after I received it.....
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Here's one from a few months later, showing some of the grain. You can see here that it is already beginning to show some wear around the edges and seams....
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Great leather. Not plastic-y. ;)

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:28 am
by moses
Nice!

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:32 am
by Hollowpond
Arm creases for the win on that soft goat! :tup:

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:25 am
by MARQ
Few images here show the sleeves like straight tubes,like "the idol chamber entrance" picture where Indy fills the bag.In that case one to get would be custom made Wested, size smaller Wested with longer sleeves or Todd jacket regular fit or size smaller,either it fits to your built,lucky s.o.b who gets it right the first time.Standards look wide on the sleeve department.

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:27 pm
by Weston
After looking at the pics in this thread, I'm feeling a lot more love for my Wested in Authentic Brown Lamb. I also want to watch Raiders again!

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:56 pm
by Texan Scott
Image

How do you suppose those vertical lines happened above the pocket?

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:10 pm
by Indiego Jones
Texan Scott wrote:Image

How do you suppose those vertical lines happened above the pocket?
Because of the "fabric tape" glued on the back of the leather front panel, covering (and reinforcing) the area where the pocket flap is attached/sewed.

This "fabric tape" (very light fabric like "friseline") ussually is used to reinforce certain areas on thin and non-resistant leather skins, in order to avoid rips or stretches.

Regards.-

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:05 am
by Texan Scott
Interesting....so you would suspect that the leather must have been thin in order for this effect to happen, would you not....for the inside, very thin fabric to create wrinkles in the leather like this? :-k

The inside was influencing the outside?

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:41 pm
by Indiego Jones
Texan Scott wrote:Interesting....so you would suspect that the leather must have been thin in order for this effect to happen, would you not....for the inside, very thin fabric to create wrinkles in the leather like this? :-k

The inside was influencing the outside?
Due to the glue.
Happened to us on a prototype jacket. Not on purpose.
I have to look for pictures...it will take some time.. :?

Yes, I'm sure that leather was thin, at 0.6 - 0.8 mm range, my guess.

Cheers.-

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:52 pm
by Kt Templar
Also think it's due to the jacket being wet down and dried during distressing.

Never found out what sort of tape and glue they used. These days it is probably iron on tape. Those days it might have been contact adhesive, ie good old fashioned Cow gum. (a petroleum based glue, contains no cows). :)

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:25 pm
by Indiego Jones
Kt Templar wrote:Also think it's due to the jacket being wet down and dried during distressing.

Never found out what sort of tape and glue they used. These days it is probably iron on tape. Those days it might have been contact adhesive, ie good old fashioned Cow gum. (a petroleum based glue, contains no cows). :)
We use (the workshop I mean) contact adhesive.
Comes as powder and must be mixed with water for use.

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:09 am
by Indiana Joe
Gorak wrote:I would have loved to have these hi-res shots when making my choices especially when coming to skin type as Wested offers so many. I too would love to know if this helps any of the up and coming newbies in their financial destruction. :lol:
I like your comment regarding the finances -- man, can this become an expensive hobby!
I love the shots in this thread too! Wow, I wish I could've had these twelve years ago!

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:31 am
by CM
Texan Scott wrote:Image

You used to see that puckering on other Wested Indy fan bought jackets in by gone years.

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:43 am
by ThatManFromRio
One more spec to get right if one wants to have the perfectly SA jacket ... ](*,)
What about an inner waist drawstring ( like good old M65 ) to mimic the puckering ?















:rolling:

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:59 am
by Tibor
ThatManFromRio wrote:One more spec to get right if one wants to have the perfectly SA jacket ... ](*,)
What about an inner waist drawstring ( like good old M65 ) to mimic the puckering ?
If you want to recreate THAT particular jacket... ;) There were at least a couple others worn on screen. I once had the beginnings of this effect on a Wested and imagine if it had gotten wet and dried it would have been almost as pronounced. Aside from the type of leather, these details were contingent on how the jacket was cut and where thinner/thicker and grainier/smoother parts of the hide ended up in the jacket construction. I think that level of detail would test any jacket maker's patience. :D

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:26 am
by Indiego Jones
Tibor wrote:
ThatManFromRio wrote:One more spec to get right if one wants to have the perfectly SA jacket ... ](*,)
What about an inner waist drawstring ( like good old M65 ) to mimic the puckering ?
If you want to recreate THAT particular jacket... ;) There were at least a couple others worn on screen. I once had the beginnings of this effect on a Wested and imagine if it had gotten wet and dried it would have been almost as pronounced. Aside from the type of leather, these details were contingent on how the jacket was cut and where thinner/thicker and grainier/smoother parts of the hide ended up in the jacket construction. I think that level of detail would test any jacket maker's patience. :D
Tell me about it... :? ](*,)

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:13 pm
by ThatManFromRio
Indiego Jones wrote:
Tibor wrote:...I think that level of detail would test any jacket maker's patience. :D
Tell me about it... :? ](*,)
:TOH:

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:57 am
by Texan Scott
....yep! I need to hit Diego up for a drawstring! :P

Oh, Diego!........Diego.....Diego??.... :[

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:34 am
by CM
ThatManFromRio wrote:One more spec to get right if one wants to have the perfectly SA jacket ... ](*,)
What about an inner waist drawstring ( like good old M65 ) to mimic the puckering ?


:rolling:
That's very funny! I thought something similar.

I've said this before - I don't need a copy of what we see on screen. I want a jacket that has the same pattern but is better made and from a more durable material. I want improvements. ;)

Re: Definitive Raiders jacket photos....

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:41 pm
by Indiego Jones
Texan Scott wrote:....yep! I need to hit Diego up for a drawstring! :P

Oh, Diego!........Diego.....Diego??.... :[
Diego have left the building :Plymouth: