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Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:27 pm
by backstagejack
steerpike wrote:For me too he's not a good writer at all! Read this page of the book I quoted in the end of this topic:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=43981
Yeah, that wasn't very good at all.....that was pretty bad actually, they actually printed this? He got paid?
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:40 pm
by Mulceber
Indiana Joosse wrote:backstagejack wrote:
mended? How do you "mend" a hat? Add a patch? stitch it together? when you wear a hole through the crown by pinching it so much, how do you mend that? Weld the felt back together?
I see no evidence of indy having stitches or patches on his hat.....lol!!!
Like I said, he isn't a very good writer. But I have to give him credit at least for knowing that a hat can be reblocked. Perhaps he looked that up right here on COW?
Actually, iirc, the part about mending a hole is true - using the felting process they could felt more fur into the place where the hole was. It was expensive and not very common, but it could be done, and you wouldn't know the hole had ever been there. So yes, afaik, the guy's hat knowledge is actually spot on. -M
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:44 pm
by whipitgood
Mulceber wrote:
Actually, iirc, the part about mending a hole is true - using the felting process they could felt more fur into the place where the hole was. It was expensive and not very common, but it could be done, and you wouldn't know the hole had ever been there. So yes, afaik, the guy's hat knowledge is actually spot on. -M
Wow! I never knew this could be done. You learn something new everyday.
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:53 pm
by backstagejack
Mulceber wrote:Indiana Joosse wrote:backstagejack wrote:
mended? How do you "mend" a hat? Add a patch? stitch it together? when you wear a hole through the crown by pinching it so much, how do you mend that? Weld the felt back together?
I see no evidence of indy having stitches or patches on his hat.....lol!!!
Like I said, he isn't a very good writer. But I have to give him credit at least for knowing that a hat can be reblocked. Perhaps he looked that up right here on COW?
Actually, iirc, the part about mending a hole is true - using the felting process they could felt more fur into the place where the hole was. It was expensive and not very common, but it could be done, and you wouldn't know the hole had ever been there. So yes, afaik, the guy's hat knowledge is actually spot on. -M
Wow.......so in theory could a hat last almost 50 years? I mean after a time it'd be a different hat all together by having the felt replaced over and over again.
hm....thats quite interesting knowledge. Just paint "The more you know...." over my head.
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:37 pm
by fenris
Even if holes can be repaired, the logical choice would still be to stuff the hat into the bag than punching a hole in it.
Like I said before; too much emphasis on the reblocking, not enough on Indy's character and common sense.
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:04 pm
by Long John Tinfoil
backstagejack wrote:
Wow.......so in theory could a hat last almost 50 years? I mean after a time it'd be a different hat all together by having the felt replaced over and over again.
Well, I have a neighbour who uses his great-grandfather's axe. Of course it's had 7 new handles and 3 new heads.
LJ
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:32 pm
by fenris
Long John Tinfoil wrote:backstagejack wrote:
Wow.......so in theory could a hat last almost 50 years? I mean after a time it'd be a different hat all together by having the felt replaced over and over again.
Well, I have a neighbour who uses his great-grandfather's axe. Of course it's had 7 new handles and 3 new heads.
LJ
Wait... doesn't that mean it's a NEW axe already?
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:39 pm
by backstagejack
Long John Tinfoil wrote:backstagejack wrote:
Wow.......so in theory could a hat last almost 50 years? I mean after a time it'd be a different hat all together by having the felt replaced over and over again.
Well, I have a neighbour who uses his great-grandfather's axe. Of course it's had 7 new handles and 3 new heads.
LJ
Exactly!!
fenris wrote:Even if holes can be repaired, the logical choice would still be to stuff the hat into the bag than punching a hole in it.
Like I said before; too much emphasis on the reblocking, not enough on Indy's character and common sense.
I have to agree with that. I would NEVER think about punching a hole in my hat. That would be my very very last choice. I'd stuff it in my pants before I'd punch a hole in it. If I had my satchel, then of course it'd go in there.....
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:44 pm
by whipitgood
backstagejack wrote:Long John Tinfoil wrote:backstagejack wrote:
Wow.......so in theory could a hat last almost 50 years? I mean after a time it'd be a different hat all together by having the felt replaced over and over again.
Well, I have a neighbour who uses his great-grandfather's axe. Of course it's had 7 new handles and 3 new heads.
LJ
Exactly!!
fenris wrote:Even if holes can be repaired, the logical choice would still be to stuff the hat into the bag than punching a hole in it.
Like I said before; too much emphasis on the reblocking, not enough on Indy's character and common sense.
I have to agree with that. I would NEVER think about punching a hole in my hat. That would be my very very last choice. I'd stuff it in my pants before I'd punch a hole in it. If I had my satchel, then of course it'd go in there.....
If Indy doesn't want to lose his hat, he should attach a chin strap to it like Stymie.
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:21 am
by Indiana Joosse
I always wondered if Goldie uses that moustache of his to tie his hat down...
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:39 am
by Long John Tinfoil
Goldie???
Oh! You mean the Moderator formerly known as Michaelson!
LJ
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:31 pm
by backstagejack
Indiana Joosse wrote:I always wondered if Goldie uses that moustache of his to tie his hat down...
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:45 pm
by alphared6
Opinion is running 2 to 1 that Indy owned multiple hats over the the years.
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:54 pm
by whipitgood
alphared6 wrote:Opinion is running 2 to 1 that Indy owned multiple hats over the the years.
I guess that means 2 out of every 3 COW members are wrong
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:57 pm
by jnicktem
Oh snap.
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:31 pm
by generalFROSTY
Well look at it this way - the many COWers own multiple Indy hats, and most of the time they aren't being used to go on trecherous adventures!
Indy certainly had more than one hat!! Are you crazy? We all know the TOD hat was different because of the shape. The LC hat was more in the shape of raiders, but with a different bash. That would be his THIRD hat, unless he found his old 'Raiders' lid and had it reblocked.
Three hats MINIMUM. Probobly more. Maybe one of his coworkers at the school has a close friend that makes hats for a living...named John Penman...or something...
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:37 pm
by jnicktem
All of us know that the hat is not the exact same hat throughout all 4 movies. They look different... plain and simple. But that is not the point in my opinion. I think the real question is whether or not it is SUPPOSED to be the same hat? Are we SUPPOSED to believe that it is the very same hat on all of his adventures. Sure we can take a look at it and notice that the crown on this hat is not as high as this hat, the brim widths are different from this hat to this hat, and the pinches look completely different. But to me that is not the point that is being made with the hats.
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:21 pm
by Chiliana Jones
it is supposed to be the same brown hat through all the adventures! it's been confirmed and they/lucas HAVE given the audience a clue that it is the same hat since his younger days. do your research COW'ers!
nitpicking on details on how the hat changes through the movies and how it can't be the same is silly IMO. it just shows that he gets it fixed from time to time.
It is a fictional hat, just like the character.
and i still wonder why people around here still are saying that he lost the hat in Raiders. yes he left it on the Bantu Wind with all his other luggage. But If it was lost, why on earth did he get his grey hat and blue suit back? those things must also have been on the ship. ( i've mentioned this before but people seemed to overlook it on purpose, as if they don't want to be wrong on the subject
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CJ
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:29 pm
by Odo
Unless it was an AB, I hardly think Indy could have only wore one fedora during his whole life. I guess he just got the inspiration from the dressing from "Fedora" -jacket, bag, brown hat-, but that is it.
I guess the scene when he gets the hat is just the beggining of the personality of the character, no of one piece of dressing...
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:08 pm
by generalFROSTY
Logically, back in the era in which the movies were set, fedoras were as common as some of todays baseball caps. There must have been at least one, if not TWO custom hat shops in Indy's town.
Odd's are he frequents one of these shops for his hats.
Yeah, it's fiction - but I wouldn't be a fanboy if I didn't speculate!
Re: Does Indy have but one hat?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:57 am
by Havana
It's not the years, it's the mileage that suggest more than one hat. Even in the world of Indy fiction, there's just no way a single hat could survive what Indy would have put it through over that long period of time. How many times would it have been covered with dust and dirt or snow and rain. How many times would it have been submerged or run over by various vehicles? Forget about the wear and tear, the simple odds of him losing it at least once are extremely high. I think it's just a style that he adopted thanks to the Fedora character in LC. He probably wore that first one until it was worn out and then bought a replacement because that's what he liked.