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Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:31 pm
by enigmata_wood
It makes most sense to me that Indy would have a trusted, traditional, gentlemen's hatter thathe returned to every time his hat got lost or damaged. The conversation would go something like:
Ah, Dr. Jones. Nice to see you again.
Hi, Mr Johnson. Well... you know what I'm going to say.
Another hat lost?
Yup.
We'll, we've already established your size and preferences, let's see, yes, the nearest we have is this.
Perfect!
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:54 pm
by whipitgood
Michaelson wrote:Yep, he was. Good point.
Regards! Michaelson
...and if they didn't burn it, then we'll know why IJ is bald as a baby's bottom in the next one
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:36 pm
by eazybox
whipitgood wrote:Maybe some of you can refresh my memory as I 've only seen CS one time. Was IJ wearing the fedora when they nuked the fridge? If this is the case, I have a hard time believing he was able to keep his beloved hat. I always felt it was the same lid that Fedora bestowed upon him, but after being exposed to nuclear radiation, I think they may have burned the thing.
I wondered about that, too. But I guess If you can believe Indy could survive a nuclear blast by hiding in a refrigerator, you can believe he could find a way to salvage his beloved hat.
Jack
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:16 pm
by whipitgood
eazybox wrote:whipitgood wrote:Maybe some of you can refresh my memory as I 've only seen CS one time. Was IJ wearing the fedora when they nuked the fridge? If this is the case, I have a hard time believing he was able to keep his beloved hat. I always felt it was the same lid that Fedora bestowed upon him, but after being exposed to nuclear radiation, I think they may have burned the thing.
I wondered about that, too. But I guess If you can believe Indy could survive a nuclear blast by hiding in a refrigerator, you can believe he could find a way to salvage his beloved hat.
Jack
Ain't that the truth
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:37 pm
by RCSignals
eazybox wrote:whipitgood wrote:Maybe some of you can refresh my memory as I 've only seen CS one time. Was IJ wearing the fedora when they nuked the fridge? If this is the case, I have a hard time believing he was able to keep his beloved hat. I always felt it was the same lid that Fedora bestowed upon him, but after being exposed to nuclear radiation, I think they may have burned the thing.
I wondered about that, too. But I guess If you can believe Indy could survive a nuclear blast by hiding in a refrigerator, you can believe he could find a way to salvage his beloved hat.
Jack
If he could survive, why wouldn't his hat?
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:19 pm
by Michaelson
'Fallout' can be scrubbed away (as seen when he was being brushed down in CS). Clothing items, on the other hand, are disposed of.
Keep in mind, he didn't just ride it out in the 'fridge', he walked to the top of the ridge and viewed the mushroom cloud that towered above him...WELL within fallout range.
Yep. I used to work in the nuclear industry years ago. I can't tell you how many times I had to leave articles of clothing (gloves, trousers and shoes) for disposal after videotaping some material training on a cell floor. There is no discussion or debate with a safety officer or industrial hygiene personnel. You just hand over the article and move on.
Regards! Michaelson
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:28 pm
by fenris
Maybe Steve or Marc should have a cameo role in Indy V... They could show a scene of Indy picking up his hat after a reblock. Hehehe.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:31 pm
by jnicktem
Here's another idea... Indy could have just ordered like 20 of the exact same hat. When one got lost or ruined he just moved on to the next hat.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:19 am
by Digger4Glory
fenris wrote:Maybe Steve or Marc should have a cameo role in Indy V... They could show a scene of Indy picking up his hat after a reblock. Hehehe.
Now that would be real cool,
and a nod to these true craftsman!
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:18 pm
by backstagejack
Digger4Glory wrote:fenris wrote:Maybe Steve or Marc should have a cameo role in Indy V... They could show a scene of Indy picking up his hat after a reblock. Hehehe.
Now that would be real cool,
and a nod to these true craftsman!
Yeah then when they updated the Indy DK book, it could have their names instead of Herbert Johnson. I thought that was kinda crappy that it stated the AB was a Herbert Johnson....I understand why, as HJ was around in 1957 and AB wasn't.....but still.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:23 pm
by Digger4Glory
backstagejack wrote:Digger4Glory wrote:fenris wrote:Maybe Steve or Marc should have a cameo role in Indy V... They could show a scene of Indy picking up his hat after a reblock. Hehehe.
Now that would be real cool,
and a nod to these true craftsman!
Yeah then when they updated the Indy DK book, it could have their names instead of Herbert Johnson. I thought that was kinda crappy that it stated the AB was a Herbert Johnson....I understand why, as HJ was around in 1957 and AB wasn't.....but still.
Well, they could just show Indy going into a hat shop with Steve and Marc in it without saying the name of the shop or company. I could see that...
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:50 pm
by whipitgood
Digger4Glory wrote:backstagejack wrote:Digger4Glory wrote:fenris wrote:Maybe Steve or Marc should have a cameo role in Indy V... They could show a scene of Indy picking up his hat after a reblock. Hehehe.
Now that would be real cool,
and a nod to these true craftsman!
Yeah then when they updated the Indy DK book, it could have their names instead of Herbert Johnson. I thought that was kinda crappy that it stated the AB was a Herbert Johnson....I understand why, as HJ was around in 1957 and AB wasn't.....but still.
Well, they could just show Indy going into a hat shop with Steve and Marc in it without saying the name of the shop or company. I could see that...
This is a cool idea, but mostly for AB and us gearheads.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:33 pm
by fenris
whipitgood wrote:Digger4Glory wrote:backstagejack wrote:Digger4Glory wrote:fenris wrote:Maybe Steve or Marc should have a cameo role in Indy V... They could show a scene of Indy picking up his hat after a reblock. Hehehe.
Now that would be real cool,
and a nod to these true craftsman!
Yeah then when they updated the Indy DK book, it could have their names instead of Herbert Johnson. I thought that was kinda crappy that it stated the AB was a Herbert Johnson....I understand why, as HJ was around in 1957 and AB wasn't.....but still.
Well, they could just show Indy going into a hat shop with Steve and Marc in it without saying the name of the shop or company. I could see that...
This is a cool idea, but mostly for AB and us gearheads.
And fans who might not be gearheads might even find the scene unnecessary...
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:50 pm
by Digger4Glory
Then again, if your not a gearhead you don't even know who the hatters are in the first place and your probably talking on your cell phone during the show. So you would'nt even notice the scene in the first place.. HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA!
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:08 am
by fenris
Before I joined here, I thought that "a hat is a hat." How wrong I was.
So, yes, non-gearheads wouldn't even appreciate that scene as much as we. Still, it would be nice to see a scene like that.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:19 pm
by Canyon
Chewbacca Jones wrote:The mythic implication has been that the same hat has been with him since the Cross incident as a kid. One would assume that, after the Ark was safe, Indy would have contacted Sallah or the Katanga to get his stuff back. Most especially the hat. It is his talisman, his good-luck piece. Probably serviced, reblocked, cleaned, and repaired many times during his career. But a life-long companion.
Thank you, my dear...and here is the proof.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:41 pm
by Chiliana Jones
he got his dress and travel hat back so why wouldn't he get his good old adventure hat back with it?
oh! the letter canyon posted explains eveything( but doesn' say anything about the dress and grey hat.)
CJ
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:28 pm
by Chiliana Jones
alphared6 wrote:Ahhh ... I dun-no. The hat he receives from "Fedora" is not the same hat, it is definitely not the same bash, I don't think its as tall a crown and the brim seems wider to me.
If we're taking the books as Cannon, this latest book "Army of the Dead" states the hat is the one he got from "Fedora," ok ... but they just don't look the same.
these two hat's doesn't look the same but are still supposed to be the same one
(this picture is posted in the other thread too)
CJ
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:00 am
by WyoWilliam
Wow, I guess that last pic. answers my question - DEFINATELY not the same hat. Ha!
It looks like the shows costumer bought an off-the-shelf Dorfman Pacific, got it wet, slapped it on Sean's head and tied a new, far-too-wide, ribbon on it.
"Haven't you ever heard of suspension of disbelief? NO ONE will ever notice!" - Tim Burton's Ed Wood
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:10 am
by Digger4Glory
Chiliana Jones wrote:alphared6 wrote:Ahhh ... I dun-no. The hat he receives from "Fedora" is not the same hat, it is definitely not the same bash, I don't think its as tall a crown and the brim seems wider to me.
If we're taking the books as Cannon, this latest book "Army of the Dead" states the hat is the one he got from "Fedora," ok ... but they just don't look the same.
these two hat's doesn't look the same but are still supposed to be the same one
(this picture is posted in the other thread too)
CJ
Wow! that one on the left is the best hat ever! I just have to have it!
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:42 pm
by Michaelson
Stetson sold them for years!
Regard! Michaelson
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:09 pm
by Digger4Glory
Michaelson wrote:Stetson sold them for years!
Regard! Michaelson
Come to think of it..., I have one then
Which is even better!
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:31 am
by backstagejack
Michaelson wrote:The only thing I've ever read them to say (Spielberg, actually) is that there were only two hats in Indy's closet at any given time. His brown 'work' hat, and his grey 'travel' hat.
Which I find funny....as, wouldn't his brown fedora be considered his "travel" hat? As when he traveled he was generally working.....
Now in CS I can see it as a "travel" hat, as he was just taking a leisurly train ride and then maybe a boat/plane ride to London.
This comment from SS kinda makes me wish he had been wearing a grey in the venice scene of LC.....
fenris wrote:Before I joined here, I thought that "a hat is a hat." How wrong I was.
So, yes, non-gearheads wouldn't even appreciate that scene as much as we. Still, it would be nice to see a scene like that.
LOL, before I joined here, I was watching the movies constantly comparing scenes and hats. Watching each movie and YIJC and telling my friends that it wasn't the same hat in different scenes or movies....they all thought I was crazy.
Finally I joined COW and what do you know, theres people that are even worse then me at nitpicking scenes and gear!!!! I love it. My gf....thinks we all need to get a life, LOL!! but she hasn't left me yet.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:41 am
by Mulceber
Canyon wrote:Chewbacca Jones wrote:The mythic implication has been that the same hat has been with him since the Cross incident as a kid. One would assume that, after the Ark was safe, Indy would have contacted Sallah or the Katanga to get his stuff back. Most especially the hat. It is his talisman, his good-luck piece. Probably serviced, reblocked, cleaned, and repaired many times during his career. But a life-long companion.
Thank you, my dear...and here is the proof.
Great, love it, there's only one problem: based on the Life Magazine being read on the plane, which is dated November 23, iirc, it seems clear that the search for the Ark takes place in late November-Early December of 1936. So you've got Sallah sending his gear back about nine months too early. -M
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:44 pm
by backstagejack
Chiliana Jones wrote:alphared6 wrote:Ahhh ... I dun-no. The hat he receives from "Fedora" is not the same hat, it is definitely not the same bash, I don't think its as tall a crown and the brim seems wider to me.
If we're taking the books as Cannon, this latest book "Army of the Dead" states the hat is the one he got from "Fedora," ok ... but they just don't look the same.
these two hat's doesn't look the same but are still supposed to be the same one
(this picture is posted in the other thread too)
CJ
They use multiple hats even in YIJC. The hat in Spring Break adventures and Adventures in the secret service is the tall stovepipe one on the right side there. Later on during the series a shorter crowned fedora similar to the one on the left was used that seemed to be almost a c or teardrop bash instead of the center bash. Mystery of the blues, hollywood follies, Mystery of the Peacocks eyea nd some others used the shorter crowned hat.
But it looked alot better then the one on the left there.....that one looks like they pulled it out of the river and threw it on SPF's head. I remember seeing that too, thinking, "dear god, thats not the same hat!" lol.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:36 pm
by rifleman
No way does any every day hat wearer have just one hat for a lifetime.
Though my wife and minister of finance would appreciate it...
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:26 pm
by WyoWilliam
True, but it
is a movie. Keep in mind too that for some reason the man wears the exact same pants, shirt and boots, but his hat and jacket change every three years.
So what really lasts longer - your pants/shirt or your beloved hat/ jacket? (Perhaps Indy found a surplus store in the early 30's and bought a couple dozen of each - pants, shirt, boots.)
Don't even get me started about the gun.
PS - the Sallah letter should probbaly mention the grey clipper fedora, too. (I'm assuming he'd bring it from Mongolia to Cairo, right?)
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:16 pm
by fenris
In the DK ultimate guide book, they messed up with who made the hat for the fourth film, right?
...well, in 'the making' book they misspelled steve's lastname!
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:24 pm
by backstagejack
WyoWilliam wrote:True, but it
is a movie. Keep in mind too that for some reason the man wears the exact same pants, shirt and boots, but his hat and jacket change every three years.
So what really lasts longer - your pants/shirt or your beloved hat/ jacket? (Perhaps Indy found a surplus store in the early 30's and bought a couple dozen of each - pants, shirt, boots.)
Don't even get me started about the gun.
PS - the Sallah letter should probbaly mention the grey clipper fedora, too. (I'm assuming he'd bring it from Mongolia to Cairo, right?)
I figure if the man is willing to pay for someone to make him an exact copy of the same custom jacket, then he's willing to pay for someone to make some custom adventure pants and shirts too...
Since he based his style almost exactly off of Fedora....tan pants, leather jacket, satchel and brown fedora......then he was already purposefully searching for certain articles of clothing in order to make a certain style in the first place. Similar to how we see Indy and try to emulate his style...maybe not with the exact same clothes, but Indy gear that suits us, how Fedora's gear was modified to suit Indy.
His pants, shirts, and jacket are obvious custom since they are reminiscent of military (to fit in with indy's time of service) but they are not military issue (the pants might be, but I thought Officer Pinks weren't pleated and Indy's pants are) and more reminiscent of Fedora. Add to that purposefully having a strap made for a mark VII gas mask bag......
A man willing to do all that.....he's def. willing to buy more then one brown hat of a similar style.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:55 am
by Indiana Bugs
Ive always had the feeling, based purely on what I thought was logical, that, over the years, IJ just bought a number of items that he used and liked, and then rebought them as needed, including the hat. Military issue stuff has been available for years. I dont know if a civilian could buy stuff like that back then, but then again, IJ obviously had connections, and he wasnt the most completely scrupulous character, either, at times. He could have obtained relatively mundane stuff, like clothing, as he obviously did obtain treasures in his adventures, that other people couldnt.
He liked what he liked, and just bought a lot (enough) of it.
As far as the jacket, the average viewer only knows that IJ is wearing a brown leather jacket, which were available back then, as well. It doesnt have to be custom made in the IJ world, it was just 'available.' But for the movie, it had to be right - cut to work, look right, and fit HF. But in IJ world, its just a brown leather jacket.
Same thing with the bag and strap. They needed a vintagey-looking thing that had to be the right size, hang a certain way, and a leather strap just looks cool. So, in the real world, a bag from the 'future' was found, a leather strap was added, and voila! thats what was normally available in the IJ world of the 1930s. What do we call this? Artistic license?
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:39 pm
by backstagejack
scottyrocks6 wrote:Ive always had the feeling, based purely on what I thought was logical, that, over the years, IJ just bought a number of items that he used and liked, and then rebought them as needed, including the hat. Military issue stuff has been available for years. I dont know if a civilian could buy stuff like that back then, but then again, IJ obviously had connections, and he wasnt the most completely scrupulous character, either, at times. He could have obtained relatively mundane stuff, like clothing, as he obviously did obtain treasures in his adventures, that other people couldnt.
He liked what he liked, and just bought a lot (enough) of it.
As far as the jacket, the average viewer only knows that IJ is wearing a brown leather jacket, which were available back then, as well. It doesnt have to be custom made in the IJ world, it was just 'available.' But for the movie, it had to be right - cut to work, look right, and fit HF. But in IJ world, its just a brown leather jacket.
Same thing with the bag and strap. They needed a vintagey-looking thing that had to be the right size, hang a certain way, and a leather strap just looks cool. So, in the real world, a bag from the 'future' was found, a leather strap was added, and voila! thats what was normally available in the IJ world of the 1930s. What do we call this? Artistic license?
True, but Indy's jacket is obviously the exact same style throughout at least 20 years if not longer......most people don't make the same style jacket for that long....which leads me to believe its a custom job, or a jacket he bought sometime between 1922 and 1935 and then had it replicated over the years.
The pants might have been available, if officer pinks had pleats. On Magnoli's website, he sells the "indy pants" which have pleats....and then sells "officer pinks" which don't have pleats. yet in the description for the indy pants, he states that they are officer pinks....so that's where my confusion on those comes from. So I don't know if the Indy pants were standard issue or just based on officer pinks.
Indy's shirt isn't standard issue in any military is it? Sure its a military styled shirt but I've never found a shirt like that in any surplus store. So that seems to be a custom job....
of course the bag...is always going to be anachronistic (aside from CS).
But, his style, his want to emulate Fedora's style....leads me to believe he would buy more then one fedora to achieve his style and keep it going over the years.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:50 pm
by thegreatgalling
I think it means more to me have it be the same hat. I think Steve helps convince this hypothesis to me since I have a good feeling (and I think John has even said this), that a hand-made AB hat could easily last a lifetime.
But the cool thing is that until established for sure on film, it's up to us to decide. I am just glad HF agrees with me.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:41 pm
by WyoWilliam
thegreatgalling wrote:I think it means more to me have it be the same hat. I think Steve helps convince this hypothesis to me since I have a good feeling (and I think John has even said this), that a hand-made AB hat could easily last a lifetime.
But the cool thing is that until established for sure on film, it's up to us to decide. I am just glad HF agrees with me.
True, an AB would/ will last a lifetime. A Herbert Johnson, though... eh...
And I don't think an AB would ever look as bad as the hat did for a good portion of The Temple of Doom.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:27 am
by thegreatgalling
^ True. Technically, there is no on screen confirmation about who made the hats. I take solace in knowing that its POSSIBLE in real life that a hat can be created to last (so it can be especially so in the films). As far as I am concerned Steve and Marc made Indy's one hat from YIJ on and I won't accept otherwise
(sticks fingers in ears, "la la la la la").
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:13 pm
by IndianaSean
Indy would probably do what most of us would do. Go to your favorite hatter and buy a new one.
The question is...would he choose the Penman or the Adventurebilt??? For you must choose wisely.
Just playing guys.
Sean
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:21 pm
by thegreatgalling
I guess in that case, he'd do what I did...
BUY ONE OF EACH!
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:45 pm
by Texan Scott
I think that due to the rough and tumble nature of these adventures, you have to error on the side of practicality and conclude that eventually, he would have rotated his clothing, boots, hat and jacket, etc., as things were lost, became thread bare, or were just plain were torn off the body. The jacket after the truck chase, and the use of the LC jacket two years later, as one example. Tradition is one thing, but I would think that you have to rationalize that it just was not possible. jmo.
In the 1930's, he might have had all of 3 fedoras, his dress brown, dress gray and the 'adventure' hat.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:14 pm
by IndianaSean
thegreatgalling wrote:I guess in that case, he'd do what I did...
BUY ONE OF EACH!
Yep!!
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:38 pm
by knibs7
He'd probably buy an AB, seeing how they so generously supplied him with fedoras in his latest adventure.
Kyle
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:53 pm
by thegreatgalling
I am really suprised about how many people here believe Indy would have had multiple hats. Maybe the more knowledge you have about hats, the more you know it would really be impossible.
I just think it seems cooler if it is the same hat.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:02 pm
by whipitgood
thegreatgalling wrote:I am really suprised about how many people here believe Indy would have had multiple hats. Maybe the more knowledge you have about hats, the more you know it would really be impossible.
I just think it seems cooler if it is the same hat.
It is cooler
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:10 am
by Texan Scott
Michaelson wrote:Can't grasp the fact that Indy is a fictional character? Excuse me, but a LOT of us have made that very statement for decades on forums all over the internet.
The question posed in the subject title is 'how would Indy replace his hat?' That is not a question regarding a 'fictional' or 'mythical' item. That is a question regarding replacement of a real world piece of gear.
His gear was never originally intended to be so philosophically 'deep'. According to the original book, he DID lose his hat, as well as his whip etc. when he left the ship and went to the sub in Raiders. It's only been over the years that the story gets spun over and over again to give these items a story of their own.
There was nothing absolutely 'magical' about the hat in the beginning. It's only become so in recent years, and like I said, it's one spin I've never accepted. It all started back when it 'returned' to Indy in LC, which was only intended as a visual joke when it originally happened. They couldn't figure out how to get it back on his head to finish the film after the tank fight, so why not just have the wind blow it back with Ford giving a comic double take?
The 'Lone Ranger' analogy, though good, is not equal. His silver bullets were introduced and created as a symbol of good from the very beginning. Indy's hat, on the other hand, has taken on a life of its own. What started out as just a head covering has become a 'talisman' of mythical proportion.
What next? His jacket a symbolic shield against evil? The whip his sword of justice?
Ford also originally said Indy was nothing more than a grave robber too. Nothing mythical about that!
Anyway, not to be a wet blanket here. If that's the path you choose to walk, go for it. This is just a hobby, and whatever 'floats your boat' and all that
.....I'm just not interested in going down that trail myself, and never have been.
So, to reply to the question posed, he would have just gone to his local mens clothing store and purchased a replacement. They were in every town, and on almost every corner, and remained so in some form or other right up until the early 1970's (at least they did in MY hometown).
Regards! Michaelson
I like what you have said in multiple posts on this subject, Michaelson, and it resonates with me as well. Good, practical, sound rationale. Insight into why the 'hero' character HAD to wear his hat, as well. As my Dad grew up in that generation, he never had a closet full of suits, but of those he had, they were the best. Depression era was just a different time, far and gone, it seems from today. That generation knew real sacrifice.
If it is just a (f--ortune and glory) jacket, surely its just a (f---ortune and glory) hat?
A few thoughts then I'll close. I think some opportunity was lost in creating minor characters, like a favorite hat maker, his leather jacket taylor, to create interesting characters whom Indy would visit occasionally for replacements, reblocks, etc.
"...oh, YOU again?" "What happened to the last one I made for you?" "You go through hats like most people change their socks!" Indy recounts the story as the guy is cutting his jacket or reblocking his hat, etc.? Some banter with these guys that helped to create 'the look'.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:09 am
by thegreatgalling
^ I dunno. Sort of think like sausages and laws, its prob. best not to know exactly how they're made. If we saw the process, we would lose the imagination.
Besides, why would Indy need a hatmaker if its the same hat?
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:44 pm
by Chiliana Jones
thegreatgalling wrote:Besides, why would Indy need a hatmaker if its the same hat?
his hat needs a reblock, or he needs a new gray travel hat( that one he actually lost)
CJ
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:17 pm
by thegreatgalling
^ Yeah, just teasing. I agree a scene like that might be cool.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:52 pm
by Texan Scott
I get this image in my mind of Indy going into the hatter's shop. He has just re-blocked it, and has taken out most of the character marks from the last adventure. Dirt, deep scars, even a couple of blood stains. This time, he earned every cent. From the look of it, as it originally came through the door, it must have been quite a story. Indy pops in at closing time, for an exchange, picks up the hat, and exits the shop, hat in hand. He stops briefly on the sidewalk, fiddles with it a bit, returning its shape back to the old, familiar, and puts it back on his head. Credits roll as we see Indy strolling down the sidewalk, his image becomming smaller and fading into the distance.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:36 pm
by thegreatgalling
That inspired this alternate idea:
The film is about Indy's "last" adventure before retirement. At the end of the adventure, his hat blows off his head and slowly falls thosands of feet over a cliff. Dejected, but glad his mission is complete, he leaves. At the end of the film Indy recieves a package. He reads the card, it says :"Found this. -(friend). Sure enough, its his hat. He puts it on, smiles, and movie ends.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:59 pm
by whipitgood
thegreatgalling wrote:That inspired this alternate idea:
The film is about Indy's "last" adventure before retirement. At the end of the adventure, his hat blows off his head and slowly falls thosands of feet over a cliff. Dejected, but glad his mission is complete, he leaves. At the end of the film Indy recieves a package. He reads the card, it says :"Found this. -(friend). Sure enough, its his hat. He puts it on, smiles, and movie ends.
I'd like to add to this. When the hat goes over the cliffside, Mutt makes a failed attempt at retrieving it. Sadly ol' Mutt takes the 1000 foot plunge along with the hat. The note could still read "Found this...but not your son." IJ flashes that devilish smiles, roll credits.
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:15 pm
by knibs7
whipitgood wrote:thegreatgalling wrote:That inspired this alternate idea:
The film is about Indy's "last" adventure before retirement. At the end of the adventure, his hat blows off his head and slowly falls thosands of feet over a cliff. Dejected, but glad his mission is complete, he leaves. At the end of the film Indy recieves a package. He reads the card, it says :"Found this. -(friend). Sure enough, its his hat. He puts it on, smiles, and movie ends.
I'd like to add to this. When the hat goes over the cliffside, Mutt makes a failed attempt at retrieving it. Sadly ol' Mutt takes the 1000 foot plunge along with the hat. The note could still read "Found this...but not your son." IJ flashes that devilish smiles, roll credits.
YES!
KYLE
Re: How would Indy replace his fedora?
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:58 pm
by thegreatgalling
Remind me not to read this forum while in class! I totally laughed out loud during a serious moment and got flashed the eyes of 30 people!