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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:58 pm
by Raider S
Wow, I really can't get my head around how this one fits. It now looks way way tight in the chest as well as somewhat short with very long sleeves. The back panel taper is quite unique.
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:20 pm
by RCSignals
Raider S wrote:Wow, I really can't get my head around how this one fits. It now looks way way tight in the chest as well as somewhat short with very long sleeves. The back panel taper is quite unique.
the back panel taper looks similar to Holt's spec new Raider jacket
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:39 pm
by CM
Raider S wrote:Wow, I really can't get my head around how this one fits. It now looks way way tight in the chest as well as somewhat short with very long sleeves. The back panel taper is quite unique.
I'm with you. It's an odd fit. Too large looking, but somehow tight and also too long. Maybe it needs to settle in and shape to fit the wearer before we can really say.
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:35 am
by knibs7
looks good. I would wait a while before having the sleeves shortened...
Nibs
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:29 am
by Baldwyn
I wouldn't use a scene where the jacket looked tight to excuse your jacket being a little too tight. After all you want a great jacket that's also functional, and it seems zipping up should be a requirement. Anyways, I would use this pic if any:
It looks good, I think a little tight and hope it does stretch for you. But it's quite fashionable fitting that trim.
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:35 am
by RCSignals
Only indyrocks can judge if it's too tight.
I wonder if in this picture
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq89 ... G_4887.jpg
it just doesn't need to be tugged down at the front?
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:32 am
by PLATON
Bravo, this jacket looks SA enough. Not sure about the color though..
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:27 am
by indyrocks
It is indeed an interesting fit. I actually love the tapered look from behind. It's sort of a blend between an Indy jacket and a motorcycle jacket.
In any case the most important thing to me is functionality and fit, and when I wear it I see both. It's not uncomfortable in the chest nor is it difficult to zip. While I'm young and trim I'm happy I can pull off a fitted jacket anyways.
Tony responded to my questions last night and I spoke with him as well. Here's what he said in a nutshell:
HELLO AVIV ! ACTUALY THAT IS A TRUE RAIDERS JACKET MAIN TRADEMARK ,THE JACKET WILL NOT STAY ON YOUR SHOULDERS IT WILL ALWAYS TRY TO PULLBACK AND EVEN IT IS YOUR SIZE WHEN YOUT TRY TO ZIP IT UP IT WILL BE TIGHT JUST LIKE IN THAT MOVIE , BUT IT WILL STETCH , YOU SEE . ANYWAY THE BEST THING TO DO NOW IS TO WEAR IT , THE TIME IS ON YOUR SIDE , SOON YOU WILL KNOW WHAT TO DO NEXT .SINCERELY AND ON STANDBY TONY NOWAK .
He said to wear it and it will stretch. He also said this was the leather he made his first Indy I prototype out of, #000/888. He said he knows the leather quite well and that it will stretch and mold so I'm sticking with that at this point. Plus, as he said, he's "on standby." ;-)
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:08 am
by jacksdad
I like it,especially the color, looks like the A-2 russet brown, that jacket looks like it will last a life time. enjoy.
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:28 am
by Hatch
Love that color and the look from the back especially has like a 30's feel going to it...almost a "Rocketman" meets Indy with a little motorcycle thrown in....Hatch
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:37 am
by indyrocks
Hatch wrote:Love that color and the look from the back especially has like a 30's feel going to it...almost a "Rocketman" meets Indy with a little motorcycle thrown in....Hatch
Hah! I thought of the Rocketeer movie as well. Although it's darker than in those last pics I took. The camera flash definitely lightens everything. I'm excited to see how it molds and shapes itself. Tony reassured me for about 10 minutes on the phone about the fit and said to "beat the *&^% out of it" etc. As you can see in his email, I will "see soon" how it will react. I'm definitely looking forward to it. This is becoming quite an experience.
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:11 pm
by Rundquist
It looks right (good) to me. You don't have the same body type as Ford and these guys are telling you that it doesn't fit based on one picture where the jacket is zipped up farther than Ford ever did in Raiders (except for the still above where Ford is in a different position). Cheers
PS- Ford never looked better as Indiana Jones than in those Raven Bar scenes. The jacket looked good and the hat didn't look so exaggerated.
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:24 pm
by indyrocks
Rundquist wrote:It looks right (good) to me. You don't have the same body type as Ford and these guys are telling you that it doesn't fit based on one picture where the jacket is zipped up farther than Ford ever did in Raiders (except for the still above where Ford is in a different position). Cheers
PS- Ford never looked better as Indiana Jones than in those Raven Bar scenes. The jacket looked good and the hat didn't look so exaggerated.
I agree about the Raven Bar scenes. His look in those shots epitomizes Indy in many ways. although I do like the Idol scenes as well for that reason.
I think it's interesting that you point out how we never see Ford with the jacket zipped up as far as I did in that pic. I did that on purpose for that exact reason. I knew many would find it too tight but I think this just goes to show what a deceiving jacket it really is. I truly believe this has to do with the "poor" design/construction of the original. Tony has replicated it quite well.
I am indeed lankier and 2 inches taller than Ford (although as Holt so kindly pointed out, my pecs are defined
![Shifty :[](./images/smilies/Indy_Shifty.gif)
....kidding kidding but thanks for the shout Holt I do try
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/Indy-laugh.gif)
) Of course it will look different on me in many ways. This has shed a lot of light on the mysteries of the jacket for me. I was always more concerned with fit than I was with zips/snaps/etc. Look at the pic of it open on me. I think that's IT.
Cheers
Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:44 am
by indyrocks
Well after discussing some things with Tony he told me "not to compromise with anything." I'm sending it back to him to have 2 small sizing issues adjusted. After wearing it around a bit the sleeves felt a tad long so I'm taking 1/2 inch off, and he's going to resize the chest as well.
What's interesting about the chest is the part that's too tight is not from pit to pit, rather it's about 2 inches ABOVE that measurement. It has to do with the odd pattern of the jacket I believe. After showing some pics to Tony he knew exactly what I was talking about and pledged to adjust. Really excellent customer service such as I haven't experience with a custom garment.
Cheers!
Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:07 am
by Raider S
Yes, a jacket that fits correct is more important than thinking of how it looked in the movie...
Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:16 pm
by knibs7
Raider S wrote:Yes, a jacket that fits correct is more important than thinking of how it looked in the movie...
Especially if you ever want to wear a sweater underneath
Nibs
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:43 pm
by indyrocks
Agreed. So I spoke with Tony again, he's got the jacket back and will be going to work on it "right away." Here's a question to ponder while I wait: Is he going to have to completely reconstruct it in order to give me more room in the chest? I would assume he'll have to re-cut a from piece, I don't really know...
What do you guys think? I didn't really ask.....It wasn't tight from pit to pit, rather above that, right across the pecs. It's awesome that he's willing to do this, and I'm quite happy considering the cost of the jacket. It was weird how it fit in one part of the torso and not the other....
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:51 pm
by Hatch
Big Tony will probably just slip it on and bench press about 500 lb and have it just where it needs to be ;-)
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:45 pm
by Mississippi Jones
So do you guys think that the shrunken lamb is SA?
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:53 pm
by binkmeisterRick
Mississippi Jones wrote:So do you guys think that the shrunken lamb is SA?
You haven't been keeping up with these threads, have you? ;-)
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:06 pm
by Mississippi Jones
Heh, heh, sorry bink, I have not....
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:35 pm
by Garzo
Hey Indyrocks,
the jacket may be a bit too tight compared to the screen version, but definitely looks hot and you look great in it, but I can understand if you want to tweak it -- especially as the man himself is suggesting a fix.
Just looking at the pics though, my first impression was that it looks awsome!
Looking forward to the new cut . . .
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:44 pm
by indyrocks
Garzo wrote:Hey Indyrocks,
the jacket may be a bit too tight compared to the screen version, but definitely looks hot and you look great in it, but I can understand if you want to tweak it -- especially as the man himself is suggesting a fix.
Just looking at the pics though, my first impression was that it looks awsome!
Looking forward to the new cut . . .
Thanks for the kind words. I'm actually a fan of the tighter look myself, and don't care about screen accuracy. However my arm movement was restricted by the chest so it definitely needed some tweaking and Tony insisted that I be completely happy so I listened! He should be working on it this week and I will post pics ASAP when I get it back.
Cheers!
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:24 am
by blueoakleyz
666??? That is freaking awesome!
On june sixth of 2006 I got a free ticket to a Madonna concert (value is like $180) and found a $20 on the ground outside the concert lol.
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:27 am
by RCSignals
blueoakleyz wrote:666??? That is freaking awesome!
On june sixth of 2006 I got a free ticket to a Madonna concert (value is like $180) and found a $20 on the ground outside the concert lol.
You scalped the ticket, right?
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:31 am
by blueoakleyz
nah I didn't know how much they were worth until way later when I found out someone I knew on myspace spent like $400 to go both days.. I was like well better not tell her I got mine for free
The only concerts I've been too cost way way way less
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:33 am
by Browncoat
Small world...my gf and her friends went to that concert on the June 5th. Fresno, right?
I gladly stayed home.
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:49 am
by blueoakleyz
Browncoat wrote:Small world...my gf and her friends went to that concert on the June 5th. Fresno, right?
I gladly stayed home.
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/Indy-laugh.gif)
Yep lol
how much did they pay?
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:45 am
by binkmeisterRick
Mind taking the concert discussion to PMs and keeping the thread on topic? Thanks. ;-)
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:50 am
by indyrocks
666??? That is freaking awesome!
I know, I know. I am so cool to be the first one to think of that.
Just kidding.....
Anyways Tony emailed saying I'll have it in my hands on Monday 12/15. It probably won't look terribly different but will FEEL different as I asked for 1/2 inch on each side of the upper part of the chest. He also took 1/2 inch OFF the sleeves.
I just want to take a moment and play the shill. Tony is the most genuine and helpful vendor I have ever dealt with, as far as custom products go. He was ready to help and make sure that everything was perfect. I know I don't need to go on singing praise and so forth, but people should really keep this in mind. Whether you're spending 1K on the shrunken lamb, or less on a different leather he will take care of you 100%. It's just been a great experience.
Ok I'm done gushing.
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:05 pm
by knibs7
indyrocks wrote:666??? That is freaking awesome!
I know, I know. I am so cool to be the first one to think of that.
Just kidding.....
Anyways Tony emailed saying I'll have it in my hands on Monday 12/15. It probably won't look terribly different but will FEEL different as I asked for 1/2 inch on each side of the upper part of the chest. He also took 1/2 inch OFF the sleeves.
I just want to take a moment and play the shill. Tony is the most genuine and helpful vendor I have ever dealt with, as far as custom products go. He was ready to help and make sure that everything was perfect. I know I don't need to go on singing praise and so forth, but people should really keep this in mind. Whether you're spending 1K on the shrunken lamb, or less on a different leather he will take care of you 100%. It's just been a great experience.
Ok I'm done gushing.
True story
![Happy :)](./images/smilies/IndySmile.gif)
Tony is definitely one of the nicest people I have met
Nibs
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:20 pm
by Insomniac
Wow nice Jacket !!!
Lucky Jacket
![Twisted Evil :twisted:](./images/smilies/Twisted.gif)
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:40 am
by RCSignals
indyrocks
Any updates on your jacket? Do you have any photos showing how this leather has started to 'wear in' ?