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Do Kepplers Shrink?

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:40 am
by lpa53
theinterchange wrote:You'll get used to a tall crown, just wear it constantly and pretty soon, you'll put it on and not notice it's there.

I've been going most everywhere in mine since I got it. Has withstood two pretty good rains with no taper.

Randy
I'm getting a Fed IV, too and I've heard from some on COW that they shrink over the first several weeks. Does the Keppler do that (especially with the rain).

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:42 am
by DR Ulloa
Mine never did.

Dave

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:25 am
by theinterchange
My sweatband has done the typical slight shrink with sweating in it is all.. which helped the fit!

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:55 am
by Michaelson
Well, the old 'apples to oranges' comparison again. ;-)

The Fed IV is a rabbit/jackrabbit fur blend, and fights shrinkage... but straight out rabbit felt will shrink.

The Keppler is a beaver/rabbit blend, and with that combination it's a pretty stable platform for outdoor use, and rarely if ever shrinks.

The sweat bands WILL shrink a bit with use, and that's normal.

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:10 pm
by theinterchange
Just snapped a new shot of myself in the Keppler on my phone's camera, I've not seen this cruddy of a shot in a while, forgive the quality.. :[ Will get a new better shot when I've got someone to take it for me.

Image

This is after a couple of good rains, and earlier today I used the Keppler hat softening method. [which I was almost scared to do!] That did improve the already soft felt!

Randy

P.S I was going for my best HF glare in the pic.

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:29 pm
by DR Ulloa
That is my favorite quality of the Keppler. It is the softest hat I own. Softer, even, than my Christy's, which I presume is comperable to the softness of an HJ.

Dave

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:45 pm
by theinterchange
How does the Federation stack up to the softness of the Keppler? It's pretty stiff right?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:07 pm
by Indiana Gregory
I see that the website is supposed to be back up on the 17th

Keppler Arrives

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:14 pm
by lpa53
Well, I finally got my Keppler, which is also my first Indy fedora. I think it fits well and am surprised that I don't feel overwhelmed by its height. Lee does the bash for you so that's great in that it'll give me something to work toward when I get another (unless of course, the other comes from Lee again).

Since I called Lee and wanted to change the size I'd ordered earlier this year (glad I changed it, too) this is a 7 he had on hand that someone had cancelled on and he addressed the package as we spoke on the phone. It was originally ordered to have Fullers Earth on it but what it has is pretty subdued, which is fine.

It does touch the tip of the ears - should it sit a bit higher? If so, I could put some foam in the band.

One other thing - there is a tiny irregularity at the front of the brim that must have been made when trimming. Looks like what happens when a scissors cut doesn't end exactly where it started (see 5th pic). Could this be easily fixed and if so, how?

http://s371.photobucket.com/albums/oo16 ... pplerF.jpg
http://s371.photobucket.com/albums/oo16 ... lerF34.jpg
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo16 ... lerR34.jpg
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo16 ... pplerL.jpg
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo16 ... pplerX.jpg

... and me (oldIndy):

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo16 ... randMe.jpg

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:44 pm
by whipcracker
Xacto-knife and some patience with a light touch and an eye.

Sitting on It?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:56 pm
by lpa53
theinterchange wrote:...This is after a couple of good rains, and earlier today I used the Keppler hat softening method.
And that method is ... ?

Sitting on it? What?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:16 am
by theinterchange
Oh, he used to have a video up on his site, there's one similar on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LVl7pFrIqQ be prepared for semi disturbing heavy breathing and no other noise.. or just turn your sound down.. :lol:

It actually made my hat look more lived in than it already is.

R

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:57 pm
by mark seven
Beautiful hat lp!-that's a keeper! :) :tup:

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:18 pm
by jasonalun
be prepared for semi disturbing heavy breathing and no other noise
:lol: :lol:

I watched that YouTube one a while back and was wondering what was up with all that...! :-k

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:04 pm
by delfloria
Lee has told me that mine is heading for the mail today.


Can't wait!

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:27 pm
by theinterchange
Great! You'll love it!

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:59 pm
by DR Ulloa
Beautiful hat, lpa. All these Kepplers look simply great!

Dave

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:36 pm
by lpa53
DR Ulloa wrote:Beautiful hat, lpa. All these Kepplers look simply great!

Dave
Thanks for the positive remarks. It's starting to get chilly here in Chicago, too so will be wearing it soon. Am wondering though, whether to wait until the Wested comes ...

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:39 pm
by theinterchange
I don't think you can hold out that long. haha I wouldn't have!

randy

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:56 pm
by Solent MKIII
Spoke with Lee earlier today - looks like I might be getting my hat next week! :tup: Image

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:59 pm
by IndyFalco
I should be getting a hold of my hat next week too :)

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:15 pm
by delfloria
As promised, Lee delivered. His latest masterpiece landed on my doorstep this weekend.

This is my first Indy fedora and I could not be happier. Count me in as one of Adventure Supply's biggest fans.

And it's a perfect fit.


Image

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:41 pm
by DR Ulloa
Thats a fine looking hat. Great bash too!

Dave

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:58 pm
by crismans
Got my Keppler on Friday but couldn't post pics until today. First, it's a terrific hat, just feels terrific. I had Lee bash it in an idol grab without the turn, but, once I got the hat, I just had to go for the turn (even though Lee's bash was great). So I turned it and rebashed it. Not perfect but I'm really happy with how it came out. So, remember, if you think the bash looks crummy, that's my work, not Lee's. Awesome hat!

Image

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:56 pm
by crismans
What, no love/hate for my bashing job? :lol:

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:42 pm
by BendingOak
I think you did a good job bashing it. I think the curl in the back is having some problems.

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:50 pm
by crismans
BendingOak wrote:I think you did a good job bashing it. I think the curl in the back is having some problems.
Yeah, the brim is doing a few funky things because of Lee styling it without the turn and then myself restyling it with the turn. Is it too much on the left side or not enough curl on the right?

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:52 pm
by BendingOak
Changing it to a turn hat from and un turn isn't the problem. I would have to see other shots.

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:31 pm
by GoneSolo
Excellent lids guys. Anyone have more pictures of the Train Traveler?

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:10 am
by theinterchange
I have to say in comparing a Federation IV and my Keppler, that the Federation feels like a DP. :Plymouth:

Yes, the Fed is floppy, but the felt feels rough. I'm using it for my yard work hat, I in honesty wouldn't wear it much otherwise, I dislike it that much in comparison. Though, I give it credit, it feels very tough, and have no second thoughts about abusing it while working.

I'm glad I got the Fed though, I had wanted one, and this satisfied my curiosity. I can't speak for the Deluxe but the regular is nowhere in the same league as the new Keppler.

Randy

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:55 pm
by crismans
The Deluxe is a quite a bit closer to the Keppler in terms of give and feel. I think the Keppler still has it on softness, but the margin is much smaller.

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:14 pm
by theinterchange
crismans wrote:The Deluxe is a quite a bit closer to the Keppler in terms of give and feel. I think the Keppler still has it on softness, but the margin is much smaller.
I knew there'd be a quality difference, But I was able to get the regular for just at $100 so it won out, and I was getting it to beat around in anyway.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:29 pm
by crismans
I reworked the bash and didn't give it as much of a turn and I think it helped the overall look a lot. I can't say enough about the hat. It looks so sharp and the felt is really forgiving. Heck, mine has had three separate Raiders bashes in it and is no worse for wear.

Image

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:41 pm
by DR Ulloa
theinterchange wrote:I have to say in comparing a Federation IV and my Keppler, that the Federation feels like a DP. :Plymouth:

Yes, the Fed is floppy, but the felt feels rough. I'm using it for my yard work hat, I in honesty wouldn't wear it much otherwise, I dislike it that much in comparison. Though, I give it credit, it feels very tough, and have no second thoughts about abusing it while working.

I'm glad I got the Fed though, I had wanted one, and this satisfied my curiosity. I can't speak for the Deluxe but the regular is nowhere in the same league as the new Keppler.

Randy
Though I agree with you, Randy, thats an unfair comparison. The Federation is a rabbit felt and the Keppler is a rabbit/beaver blend. Thats like comparing a v6 engnine to a v8...and I think Lee's beaver content has gone up since I got mine so throw a blower onto that v8.

crismans, the brim looks much better. Good work, I like the bash.

Dave

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:02 pm
by binkmeisterRick
According to what I recall Lee telling me last weekend, the blend is 20% beaver to 80% rabbit.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:27 pm
by DR Ulloa
Thats the same beaver content as the Henry.

Dave

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:57 pm
by theinterchange
DR Ulloa wrote:Though I agree with you, Randy, thats an unfair comparison. The Federation is a rabbit felt and the Keppler is a rabbit/beaver blend. Thats like comparing a v6 engnine to a v8...and I think Lee's beaver content has gone up since I got mine so throw a blower onto that v8.

Dave
True, true, I in retrospect should have clarified what I was refering to. The look of the felt, it appears more like wool than fur. Thus the DP reference. Which like you said is comparing apples to oranges.. err v6's to v8's.

Randy