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I hope you're right - that would be exciting.

Cheers

ohh those are the same jackets.I'm pretty sure


bests
Holt

No doubt here.

How much do you think that jacket will go at auction?......I heard that an Elvis Presly jumpsuit recently sold at an estimated $1.2 million!

PSBIndy wrote:How much do you think that jacket will go at auction?......I heard that an Elvis Presly jumpsuit recently sold at an estimated $1.2 million!

Not that much because its not actually a screenused item. But My guess would be a 5 number figure no doubt.

Dutch_jones wrote: Not that much because its not actually a screenused item.

Why you write this? The jacket IS A SCREENUSED ITEM! And A HERO JACKET TOO! Please watch the movie!

what.whait...

the jacket is not seen on screen...I went thru some hard time watching the LC movie in very slow stills when the jacket was on screen...and I am sorry to say the smithsonian jacket is not seen on screen...only the hero jacket.

but the smithsonian jacket is worn by Ford..but not in the film

Holt

Holt, do you bet one of your jackets?

yep

I cant say 100% for sure but after many hours of watching the film I didnt bother anymore.I looked for every distressing detail on the smithsonian jacket to match the film jacket...and I couldnt find anything that matches these


bests
Holt

Indiana Strones wrote:

Dutch_jones wrote: Not that much because its not actually a screenused item.

Why you write this? The jacket IS A SCREENUSED ITEM! And A HERO JACKET TOO! Please watch the movie!

_ wrote:The jacket in the display was not ever used during production. In fact, when the donation was made, they pulled the jacket from the archives and it had not even been distressed. Somebody from the property room did it with sandpaper and they shipped it off to Washington...

Ok, I will send you by PM my address for sending the jacket: you choose which one! Let me see if you are a one word man!

The jacket was used in the canyon scene, Look at these dvd snapshots. Look the collar absolutely no doubt!

me and my big mouth.....now I ow you a jacket....hahaha


in my defense I did the studying 3 am at night...so I was a bit tired...


this seals it...the smithsonian jacket wa used in the movie.


this is great news!!

thanks
Holt

Holty, holty... I think it's time for a new pair of glasses!

I can add that the jacket is used in ALL THE TANK FIGHTING SCENE. Watch closely to believe!!

The jacket in the display was not ever used during production. In fact, when the donation was made, they pulled the jacket from the archives and it had not even been distressed. Somebody from the property room did it with sandpaper and they shipped it off to Washington...

I am not even a goob when it comes to the origin of the jacket, and the
history of where the production jackets ended up, but it sure looks to me
like the jacket in the Smithsonian matches exactly to what is shown in
some of the screen captures posted from the movie, and production still
shot.

Flathead

Put a fork in it, this one's done. That is the same jacket. Nice detective work.

Nah, it's all photo shopped...

I'll be hiding under the Plymouth if anyone's looking for me.

Regards! Michaelson

Indiana Strones wrote:I can add that the jacket is used in ALL THE TANK FIGHTING SCENE. Watch closely to believe!!

Look:

HOW did I not see this?????

I must have been really tired...I mean REALLY...i fact...when I think about it...maby I was a sleep when I was watching LC in stills.

great work!

bests
Holt

Holt,

Before you send your order in. I'm certain it isn't black, it looks like it might be a satin or nylon but it looks brown to me, from that and also a lot of the hi res shots we've seen. I know Peter says they were all cotton, but it looks pretty shiny on most shots!

As a casual observer, KT, shiny or not, I'd still be surprised if that lining used in the LC jacket were not cotton, considering how much Ford HATED the nylon blend lining in the Cooper he wore in TofD.

I'd personally doubt he'd wear a satin lined Wested in all those desert shots...at least for very long. He's even seen wearing the jacket in production stills between shots, so the jacket must have been at least tolerable. Only cotton allows that, in my opinion.

Like I said, though, just an observation.

Regards! Michaelson

Michaelson wrote:As a casual observer, KT, shiny or not, I'd still be surprised if that lining used in the LC jacket were not cotton, considering how much Ford HATED the nylon blend lining in the Cooper he wore in TofD.

I'd personally doubt he'd wear a satin lined Wested in all those desert shots...at least for very long. He's even seen wearing the jacket in production stills between shots, so the jacket must have been at least tolerable. Only cotton allows that, in my opinion.

Like I said, though, just an observation.

Regards! Michaelson

It does fly in the face of what we've heard. Perhaps it was one of those shiny cottons, mercurised maybe. It could just be a trick of the light.




I know that Bernie insisted on a man made fibre for his samples from Peter for CS because of all that water. Maybe the Nowak owners can pipe up as to what the lining of that jacket ended up as.

well I just watched the tank scene again...and yes the smithsonian jacket is a HERO jacket.it's worn almost in the half of the film.



bests
Holt

Interesting thread. However, I'm having a hard time believing that that is Ford on the left. I mean, look at the size of the schnoze in that pic.

that is ford

look at the ears.you know that all ears are unic....they are like fingerprints

bests
Holt

and it is worn in the motorcycle scene...wow I am starting to believe that it is worn thru the hole movie...


bests
Holt

Indiana Holt wrote:I am starting to believe that it is worn thru the whole movie...

Yes, I obiouvsly agree with you.

and it is worn in the motorcycle scene...wow I am starting to believe that it is worn thru the hole movie...

Boy, you really must have been asleep thru most of the movie when you
said this initially:

the jacket is not seen on screen...I went thru some hard time watching the LC movie in very slow stills when the jacket was on screen...and I am sorry to say the smithsonian jacket is not seen on screen...only the hero jacket.

but the smithsonian jacket is worn by Ford..but not in the film

Holt

You shouldn't watch any more movies at 3 am!!

Flathead

Studying screen used jackets is not for all. Please leave this to professionals!

Indiana Strones wrote:Studying screen used jackets is not for all. Please leave this to professionals!

funny

Here's pictures of the lining from a different Last Crusade jacket that came up for auction several years ago-

Very good pics Mechanic: all cotton lining!

Indiana Strones wrote:Very good pics Mechanic: all cotton lining!

It is, but that jacket is the 'Kurtz' jacket, made after the movie was made. A promotional jacket.

The hero jacket DOES have a leather collar stand.

You're right, it is the Kurtz jacket with cotton lining. From those screen caps the hero jacket looks like it had some sort of rayon or acetate lining.

Oh by the way, how did the Kurtz jacket get all beat up on the inside like that? The right armpit lining is torn apart.

I do wish _ would stop by this thread. That definitely seems to be a screen used jacket, which goes against what was perceived as fact for so long. Which is not at all uncommon around these parts, but an interesting development to say the least.

I'm not as convinced that's Ford on the left of that picture. He and his stuntman looked very much alike during LC, and the profile is truly odd. Be easier if we could see his chin/scar.

Either way, it seems extremely likely that jacket was in fact in the film...

That's definitely Ford in that photo. The ears, the chin, the hair. The only reason the nose looks weird is because there's a fold in the paper running right through the nose. Also those 2 pictures are from slightly different angles. One is a dead on profile, the other he's looking slightly away.

wrong forum I know, but I just did a second look.. I don't think those are the same hats.. the one on the left isn't turned

Yeah, the bow placement looks different too. Same jacket though!

absolutely

Yes, two different hats.

yeah but remeber guys there wasnt only ONE hat in the movie...

I dont know but I think there was 15 of them...


Holt

Piers wrote:wrong forum I know, but I just did a second look.. I don't think those are the same hats.. the one on the left isn't turned

Looks llike Ford....but the nose does look bigger. Hmmm


http://www.vicarmstrong.com/wordpress/w ... ic_in1.JPG

Pictures of Ford and Armstrong side by side
http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/content/ ... ture.shtml

The guy in the photo is Mr. Harrison Ford. In the second pic the nose seems smaller, that's due to the light.

It's the LENS!

Yes, the lens also.

It's the PAGE CREASE!

Castor Dioscuri wrote:It's the PAGE CREASE!

thats exacly what it is...I used to be a printer and work with magazines...and you wouldnt believe how things look different when faces end up in a crease of the spread..

holt

That's exactly what I said 12 posts ago...