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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:50 pm
by GB_Cinch
J!M,

The lambskin has held up amazingly! It's a great lightweight jacket, and since I live in Central Texas it's perfect for the mild winters we have here. Absolutely the most comfortable jacket I've ever owned. In fact, a couple of years ago I bought a black leather jacket at Men's Warehouse (I felt I needed something other than just my Indy jacket) and the only reason I bought it was because it was lambskin. I've put my Indy jacket through #### and back, and it's held up just fine. Normally I like things to look new and prestine, but it just wouldn't be an Indy jacket if it looked like I just took it out of the store. At some point I'll be sure to post photos.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:47 pm
by JimL
Thanks, GB. I'd like to see the photos when you get a chance...

My Schott Moto jacket HAD to be traditional Horse Hide (even though it cost a fortune). I needed a lighter (summer, non-moto) jacket anyway; love the indy (Raider's) style, and figured this would solve both.

Since I am hard on gear (I have broken TWO tag Heuer watches- several times each- in my time adventuring) I was concerned about durability.

I suppose if I tore it open on a briar bush or something, I could send it back to Peter for repair, right?

The Wested jackets are an exceptional value. I paid considerably more for my Schott...

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:11 am
by CM
Raider S wrote:I think people should do to their jackets whatever makes them happy. In my mind wearing a jacket for ten years is no more "real" than taking sandpaper to a new one - it's all up to the individual.
My friend, that's all wrong. "Real" refers to reality. Someone trying to make their jacket look old by wearing it away with friction and sandpaper is quite simply engaged in work which is artificial, fake, phoney, false, pretend, dudded... Enjoy it if you must, but it is not, and never will be "real." They do it to clothes in films because the character is not real and the clothing has not had the chance to wear naturally. You, however are real (I hope). In the normal world, anyone seen taking to a good leather jacket with sand paper, etc just to achieve a look could easily be viewed as a bit of a ....

The fact that some individuals have different tastes doesn't make all those tastes right. There are some people who like serial killing... others have a special fondess for children... Leaving things to the individual can end badly.

Not that I would ever suggest that running sandpaper over a new leather jacket is debauched.

Cheers

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:50 pm
by Rundquist
Baldwyn wrote:I've posted this a bunch of times recently :)
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8 year old goatskin expedition, all naturally distressed.

I've broken both arms in this thing. At the same time!!

(Anyone interested in a naturally distressed G&B 38R, fits like a 40R, I'm itching to do the same minus the breaking of bones to a Wested Horsehide...)
Just bear in mind that although the horsehide will hold up fine, there's probably little chance that the stitching in a Wested will hold up anywhere near as well as a Gibson & Barnes. Cheers

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:45 pm
by Raider S
CM wrote:
Raider S wrote:I think people should do to their jackets whatever makes them happy. In my mind wearing a jacket for ten years is no more "real" than taking sandpaper to a new one - it's all up to the individual.
My friend, that's all wrong. "Real" refers to reality. Someone trying to make their jacket look old by wearing it away with friction and sandpaper is quite simply engaged in work which is artificial, fake, phoney, false, pretend, dudded... Enjoy it if you must, but it is not, and never will be "real." They do it to clothes in films because the character is not real and the clothing has not had the chance to wear naturally. You, however are real (I hope). In the normal world, anyone seen taking to a good leather jacket with sand paper, etc just to achieve a look could easily be viewed as a bit of a ....

The fact that some individuals have different tastes doesn't make all those tastes right. There are some people who like serial killing... others have a special fondess for children... Leaving things to the individual can end badly.

Not that I would ever suggest that running sandpaper over a new leather jacket is debauched.

Cheers
So you're telling me a jacket (which, in the first place, was created for a fictional character in a fictional film) is somwhow less "real" if the person who spent their hard-earned money on it chooses to distress it with sandpaper rather than wearing it to the mall for ten years?

So all those people who are buying the TN Skull jackets are being dupped because he's taking a good leather jacket and then distessing it? They are getting "fake" jackets? Unless they buy them just to collect and instead wear them, should they feel ashamed?

You have a heirarchy of "realness" maybe? Since these are Indiana Jones jackets, wouldn't "real" distress come from close calls with Nazis and falling out of Ford Tri-motors?

As far as your analogies to murder and pedophilia...well...er...ok. Glad I've never distressed a jacket, I'd hate to be in that kind of company...

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:12 pm
by PSBIndy
....this is getting just too funny! :lol: ..........it's only a jacket for cryin out loud! :roll:

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:28 pm
by GB_Cinch
It's simple: I wanted a jacket that looked like the one Indiana Jones wore. The jacket I received did not. It looked new and shiny. So what did I do? The same thing they do to distress clothing and props in movies, and now I have a jacket that looks like it could have been stole off of Indy's back. Putting my costume together was a hobby, an attempt to make and Indiana Jones costume that looked like it had stepped off the screen. I think I've accomplished that goal, so I am quite happy. I wouldn't compare that to serial killing.

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:36 pm
by CM
Raider S wrote:
CM wrote:
Raider S wrote:I think people should do to their jackets whatever makes them happy. In my mind wearing a jacket for ten years is no more "real" than taking sandpaper to a new one - it's all up to the individual.
My friend, that's all wrong. "Real" refers to reality. Someone trying to make their jacket look old by wearing it away with friction and sandpaper is quite simply engaged in work which is artificial, fake, phoney, false, pretend, dudded... Enjoy it if you must, but it is not, and never will be "real." They do it to clothes in films because the character is not real and the clothing has not had the chance to wear naturally. You, however are real (I hope). In the normal world, anyone seen taking to a good leather jacket with sand paper, etc just to achieve a look could easily be viewed as a bit of a ....

The fact that some individuals have different tastes doesn't make all those tastes right. There are some people who like serial killing... others have a special fondess for children... Leaving things to the individual can end badly.

Not that I would ever suggest that running sandpaper over a new leather jacket is debauched.

Cheers
So you're telling me a jacket (which, in the first place, was created for a fictional character in a fictional film) is somwhow less "real" if the person who spent their hard-earned money on it chooses to distress it with sandpaper rather than wearing it to the mall for ten years?

So all those people who are buying the TN Skull jackets are being dupped because he's taking a good leather jacket and then distessing it? They are getting "fake" jackets? Unless they buy them just to collect and instead wear them, should they feel ashamed?

You have a heirarchy of "realness" maybe? Since these are Indiana Jones jackets, wouldn't "real" distress come from close calls with Nazis and falling out of Ford Tri-motors?

As far as your analogies to murder and pedophilia...well...er...ok. Glad I've never distressed a jacket, I'd hate to be in that kind of company...
Yes, you have my point right. Except that I refer to the wear being fake not the jacket. The look is fake, not the item.

In fun - CM

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:42 pm
by CM
PSBIndy wrote:....this is getting just too funny! :lol: ..........it's only a jacket for cryin out loud! :roll:
Yes it is funny - as intended. But if it were just a jacket as you claim, you and hundereds of others would not be posting on this site. In fact, if it were just a jacket, there would be no Club Obi Wan.

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:17 am
by Baldwyn
Rundquist wrote:
Just bear in mind that although the horsehide will hold up fine, there's probably little chance that the stitching in a Wested will hold up anywhere near as well as a Gibson & Barnes. Cheers
I wrestle with that constantly. I'm hoping it's an easier job convincing my wife that THREE Indy jackets is the perfect number a fellar can have.

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:28 am
by GB_Cinch
It must be because of hobbies like this that I never married :(

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:25 pm
by Baldwyn
GB_Cinch wrote:It must be because of hobbies like this that I never married :(
Dude, every night before I go to sleep, I look at the jacket, and I look at her, peacefully slumbering away, as I wrestle with my demons :)

Serial Killers and the Gearheads

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:09 pm
by YARVTON
Better to fondle the jacket than... other things. Hobbies do have a way of keeping the Inner-Demons at bay.