Indy 4 fedora....thoughts?

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:09 pm

Having the hat sit a little off center on his head, is not what we mean by having the "turn". To have the "turn" and get the swoop of the Raiders brim, you have to have the hat turned on the head, but the hat is bashed on center after it is turned.

Doctor_Jones · Post by **Doctor_Jones** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:32 pm

Jaredraptor wrote:
The real Henry wrote:I think I have a new favourite Indy Fedora!
I second that.

yeah me aswell.

McFly · Post by **McFly** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:33 pm

My thoughts are that the hat looks, quite simply, like it belongs on his head. It looks like it could be any other film in the series; and what I mean by that is not that it looks exactly like any particular film's hat, but that it just looks like it's his hat, and that's great. I like the bash, and though I like curly brims, I like this brim too... but look how low the pockets on his shirt are!

Anyway - I think he looks fantastic, and I can't wait for a side shot of this thing, or owning one in the distant future.

Congrats, hatter, on a wonderful job making the hat look like Indy's hat.

In Christ,
Shane

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:20 am

Just for giggles, here is my new Raiders block that I have mentioned in the past. The mushrooming you see is nothing more than the way that I styled it per request of the customer. The reason the hat looks tall, is because it is tall. Almost 6 inches open crown, with 2 7/8 by 2 3/4 brim.

Indycop · Post by **Indycop** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:40 am

Great looking hat! I thought my PB looked too tall when I got it but the way I wear it my head touches the top of the crown. Of course I am in the big head club.

crazylegsmurphy · Post by **crazylegsmurphy** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:51 am

Lightened the pic (I couldn't see much)

Johnny Fedora · Post by **Johnny Fedora** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:51 am

Steve, that is a work of art. Really awesome. Now, a question for you. You mentioned that the 'shooming that we see here was the request of the customer, as a hatter how much info is too much or too little? Is requesting a hat resemble a particular scene enough, or like a Wested jacket is more info required or welcome? For example, "Size 7, Cairo street scene", or "Size 7, Cairo street scene, with the turn, mushrooming crown, puffy SE bow, sat-on and popped back out, and here's a pic of me for the brim-width and crown height." As a customer, it would helpful to know what's the minimum info you need and how much is being pesty. Just wondering, and again, that hat looks like it could have actually been in Raiders, it really is gorgeous.

John

Johnny Fedora · Post by **Johnny Fedora** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:50 pm

Sorry, anyways back on topic...this is by far the best lid since Raiders. I went ahead and lightened the family pic from comic con to see a little more detail and I have to say that I really love this hat. At first I was a tad disapointed that the Raiders' pinch was missing but I think that Fedora nailed it right on the head (heh heh) when he said that for the most part we seem to be the only ones out there to really love that hat, and that's fine. This is a great hat also, and I'm sure will quickly become a fan fav fedora in its own rite.

John

Mark Brody · Post by **Mark Brody** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:48 pm

Ford really looks fat in that third picture. I had to cover up half his face before I ever recognized him!

Castor Dioscuri · Post by **Castor Dioscuri** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:40 pm

Tried to improve the picture...

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:20 am

You mentioned that the 'shooming that we see here was the request of the customer, as a hatter how much info is too much or too little? Is requesting a hat resemble a particular scene enough, or like a Wested jacket is more info required or welcome? For example, "Size 7, Cairo street scene", or "Size 7, Cairo street scene, with the turn, mushrooming crown, puffy SE bow, sat-on and popped back out, and here's a pic of me for the brim-width and crown height." As a customer, it would helpful to know what's the minimum info you need and how much is being pesty

It seems to work out the best when I am given the scene from the film that the customer wants me to copy. Then, I have to take facial/head shapes into account, to make the hat fit the facial shape. I normally know what characteristics each hat has, so the extra info is really not needed, but feel free to tell me if you want. I work off of head measurments exclusively, and since I started doing that, the returns have dropped drastically. Many folks actually lie between off the rack hat sizing and using head measurments is the only way to go when sizing a hat. Regards, Fedora

Johnny Fedora · Post by **Johnny Fedora** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:42 pm

Castor, thanks for improving that pic. That one from Last Crusade was nasty. Just a quick comp I whipped up.

Hopefully though you can see a bit more detail in that lightned pic of the Indy4 lid. I really like it and think some day when I've saved up a bit more I'll try to get one styled like it. You know by the way, it's sick. I've got a hat on order that I've waited my whole Indyfan/Gear life for, and part of me is looking at that pic thinking "You know my next hat..." Darn this hobby!

Fedora, that does clear things up quite a bit for me, and I'm happy to see that what I thought to be the case holds true. That being, that you know the hat intimately enough to put in the unique intricate details to bring out the best in each hat. Very cool.

I guess I have one more question then, you mentioned taking facial/head shapes into account, to make the hat fit the facial shape. You do this with the face of the customer in mind, but how? Is a simple pic enough, or do you require mesurements (aside from size). And if a picture...bare headed, similar hat on, ruler or somthing else for scale balanced on head?

Johnny

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:58 pm

You do this with the face of the customer in mind, but how? Is a simple pic enough, or do you require mesurements (aside from size). And if a picture...bare headed, similar hat on, ruler or somthing else for scale balanced on head?

Yeah, a pic of the head, front view and back view. It helps if own a stock Federation to wear with the pic as I know that hat well, having owned a dozen of them. Otherwise hatless or with hat on is fine. Fedora

fatwoul · Post by **fatwoul** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:02 pm

Fedora wrote:Yeah, a pic of the head, front view and back view. It helps if own a stock Federation to wear with the pic as I know that hat well, having owned a dozen of them. Otherwise hatless or with hat on is fine. Fedora

Ah OK cool. I will be sure to include a picture of me in my fed, then.

Good to know.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:04 pm

or just do what i do....ask steve to make you an ab with the standard dimensions and bash your head to suit

Johnny Fedora · Post by **Johnny Fedora** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:39 pm

HAhahahhow ow.

Johnny

RobbyT43 · Post by **RobbyT43** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:12 pm

It...isn't...working!!!

Back on topic, I like the new lid. My personal favorite is the LC, but I really like both TOD and ROTLA too!!! I guess I just love whatever Indy wears!

-Robby

Mark Brody · Post by **Mark Brody** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:29 pm

Grabbed a couple screenshots from another video on the official website. The first one shows off the tall crown. The second one shows the parallel sides and maybe even a warped brim from wearing the hat crooked, but that could just be my imagination.

Renderking Fisk · Post by **Renderking Fisk** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:51 pm

MB - those pix look great. I think the gear Mr. Ford is wearing is perfect. Is there anyone who is complaining now about The Gear and are all of our years of worrying paying off, or was it all for nothing and we had nothing to fear?

IndyFan89 · Post by **IndyFan89** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:56 pm

His gear looks great! I wonder when they will let us see the gun and gunbelt?

McFly · Post by **McFly** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:58 pm

IndyFan89 wrote:His gear looks great! I wonder when they will let us see the gun and gunbelt?

By gun and gunbelt you mean flashlight and utility belt?

In Christ,
Shane

IndyFan89 · Post by **IndyFan89** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:31 pm

Didn't get that one shane.

Gater · Post by **Gater** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:07 pm

Not to hijack a thread, but does it look, to anybody else, like the strap to the bag is on the OUTSIDE of the jacket in those pics??

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:11 pm

Yes, it does, which always made more sense to me to do, anyhow. Maybe you could start a specific thread on that in the General Gear section.

Gater · Post by **Gater** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:36 pm

YEAH! AND MAYBE YOU CAN GO TO HE**!!!!

Sorry.....rebelious, smart alec private eye response mechanizm...yeah, I'll start another thread, Bink....

McFly · Post by **McFly** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:03 pm

IndyFan89 wrote:Didn't get that one shane.

It was an E.T. joke.

In Christ,
Shane

Castor Dioscuri · Post by **Castor Dioscuri** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:46 pm

IndyMcFly wrote:
IndyFan89 wrote:Didn't get that one shane.
It was an E.T. joke.

In Christ,
Shane

I agree with IndyFan... that one was totally out of left field

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:53 pm

Gater wrote:YEAH! AND MAYBE YOU CAN GO TO HE**!!!!

Sorry.....rebelious, smart alec private eye response mechanizm...yeah, I'll start another thread, Bink....

I've been there. It's in Michigan. Really. Look on the map. (Sarcastic mod-with-the-ability-to-delete-you response mechanism.

)

Gater · Post by **Gater** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:09 pm

I've been there. It's in Michigan. Really. Look on the map. (Sarcastic mod-with-the-ability-to-delete-you response mechanism. )

HOLY COW!! It is, too!!!

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?se ... &searchtab
=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude
=&name=&phone=&level=&cat=&address=&city=####&state=mi&zipcode=

McFly · Post by **McFly** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:09 pm

Castor Dioscuri wrote:
IndyMcFly wrote:
IndyFan89 wrote:Didn't get that one shane.
It was an E.T. joke.

In Christ,
Shane
I agree with IndyFan... that one was totally out of left field

Alright, alright - true; it was out of left field.

Oh well!

In Christ,
Shane

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:52 pm

Gater wrote:
I've been there. It's in Michigan. Really. Look on the map. (Sarcastic mod-with-the-ability-to-delete-you response mechanism. )
HOLY COW!! It is, too!!!

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?se ... &searchtab
=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude
=&name=&phone=&level=&cat=&address=&city=####&state=mi&zipcode=

Doesn't surprise me any. Ever been to Michigan?

There's also a Bad ### Texas. Go Figure.

coronado3 · Post by **coronado3** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:21 am

Back to the fedoras in Indy 4...

Those 2 pics (on set w/ "Mutt"-Jeeeesh, what a corney lucas-worthy name! Oh, I get it... the dog's name! Very funny Mr. L!!!) really show off the raiders style block... They are even slightly mushroomed in the crown - Very nice!

C3

Johnny Fedora · Post by **Johnny Fedora** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:30 am

I agree. Ever sence George lost his editor (sic) back in '83, that he's been a tad too..."Nudge, nudge. Wink, wink, look everybody I'm being clever $\:D/$ !" God, where is Lawrence Kasdan when we need him? Hopefully there is enough of (1981) Steven left in him to rein in Uncle George's "delusions (of grandure?)". Otherwise "I have a bad feeling about this..." See I worked in two Star Wars, one Indiana Jones, and one Monty Python reference into this post. Nudge, nudge. Wink, wink. $\:D/$

Anyway, I see the Raiders block, but is there mushrooming going on too? I need better glasses, or better pics of the new hat. I will say that I really like this hat, and that so far the hierarchy of Indiana's fedora's for me anyway is now: Raiders, Indy 4, Last Crusade, and dead last, Temple o' Doom.

Johnny

Indycop · Post by **Indycop** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:13 am

This is probably blasphemy on here but, I can't tell you a SOC style from a LC or what makes a raiders different from everything else. But I do know that my fav. Is the raiders hat completely because of the pinch. I like the tight pinch and it so far appears that the new hat will have it. And I like the crown on the new one so far.

coronado3 · Post by **coronado3** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:26 am

sweet post Johnny F!

Yeah, I dislike the TOD hats except for the hat worn on the rope bridge! That hat was sweet... I wish they would have had him wear that hat the entire film... i am assuming that the rope bridge hat was a HJ? and the smaller looking hats were ????

I liked the crown shape in LC but the brim seemed too small to me... I guess I just really like the raiders hats and all others pale in comparison!

I wonder what the brim size is on the Indy 4 hat.... anyone have a guess?

C3

Jaredraptor · Post by **Jaredraptor** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:10 pm

coronado3 wrote:sweet post Johnny F!

Yeah, I dislike the TOD hats except for the hat worn on the rope bridge! That hat was sweet... I wish they would have had him wear that hat the entire film... i am assuming that the rope bridge hat was a HJ? and the smaller looking hats were ????

I liked the crown shape in LC but the brim seemed too small to me... I guess I just really like the raiders hats and all others pale in comparison!

I wonder what the brim size is on the Indy 4 hat.... anyone have a guess?

C3

I believe the Indy 4 brim is more like the smaller LC brim. Seems a bit larger....but not large enough to be considered a Raiders brim.

Fedoraman · Post by **Fedoraman** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:39 am

Gater wrote:Not to hijack a thread, but does it look, to anybody else, like the strap to the bag is on the OUTSIDE of the jacket in those pics??

Probably started wearing it that way after getting caught on the barrel of the tank in LC...

Who says you can't teach an old guy named for a dog new tricks

Redinight · Post by **Redinight** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:59 pm

The new video showed Steven picking up a hat, the sweatband and inside looked very dark, black?

thePawn · Post by **thePawn** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:39 pm

Anyone else think the LC hat used in the final knight temple scene was way too small for Ford's head?

Compare it to the Tank scene just before, its definitely two different hats, maybe manufactured by two different vendors.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:17 pm

there was talk that the petra temple scenes utilized a stetson hat and that the tank scenes were an hj. all speculation but i'd buy that for
$1.

IndyFan89 · Post by **IndyFan89** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:41 pm

Indiana G wrote:but i'd buy that for
$1.

am i crazy or wasn't that fraze from Robocop?

indy89 · Post by **indy89** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:51 pm

IndyFan89 wrote:
Indiana G wrote:but i'd buy that for
$1.
am i crazy or wasn't that fraze from Robocop?

Yup.

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:29 am

Going through this old thread, I think its great that people loved this hat before we all knew it was an AB. Don't anyone say that it is only because its an AB that it was great. It was a great looking hat before Steve and Marc got into it.

Dave

jnicktem · Post by **jnicktem** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:35 pm

Haha, this thread is GREAT!!! I love how cool you played this Steve!

Thanks Dave for bumping this thread back up! I enjoyed it!

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:44 pm

Oh yeah. Steve is a great actor. I give him a

. Maybe he can be in Indy V. How great would it be if they had Indy going into Steve's shop that Johnny Fedora wrote about and having him pick up his reblocked hat from the man himself. That would be fantastic and it would let Steve shine in a whole new way. Seriously, though, this thread is so great because it wasn't about the fact that it was an AB. It could have been made by anyone...and everyone was taking claim of the hat too! Everyone loved the hat from the get go. Spielberg may have decided the dimensions, but Steve, you brought it to life. It has been said before, but the hats really shine in this movie. Beautiful.

...And when I find out who supplied the hats for Indy IV, I'm going to buy a whole truck load of 'em!

Dave

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:17 pm

I know everyone is all over the Raiders movie hat, but to me the best looking hat of all the movies (and most 'real' looking hat) is the Indy 4.

For me the whole wardrobe of Indy 4 has a 'real world' vibe that the others lack.

for Indy 5 Steve needs to teach 'Harry' to put his hat on and take it off properly

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