Club Obi Wan

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:31 pm**

erri_wan wrote:Dont know if anyone of you have the same on his/her hat. On the brim just around the "body" of the hat, the colour of the fur is a bit different, slightly lighter. It's hard to see and not bad looking anyway. I'm just wondering if anyone else has this.

here what i talked about

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:33 pm**

erri-wan , you don't need the steam to push down the center dent. I had the same problem when I got mine, and all I did was hold it down for a few secound. Do this evrytime you handle the hat and in a day or two bingo. One more thing try having someone esle take your pics for you ( you cut off the hat in a couple of your shots).

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:39 pm**

jpenman, the only problem is that the rabbit felt is more "springy" than the beaver felt. I know I've heard of a few people bashing their hats like you said , but the rabbit just doesn't want to work that way.

P.S. erri, if you don't want to use the steam, a spray bottle of water will work, and it won't harm your hat.

EDIT: jpenman, I like you new avatar!

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:40 pm**

jpenman wrote:erri-wan , you don't need the steam to push down the center dent. I had the same problem when I got mine, and all I did was hold it down for a few secound. Do this evrytime you handle the hat and in a day or two bingo. One more thing try having someone esle take your pics for you ( you cut off the hat in a couple of your shots).

Thank you for the advice. I will try.

About the pics...

i know but i was alone at home and i promised pics early so i took pics by myself but dont worry, as soon as possible i will show a lot better pics, full body i hope

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:49 pm**

J_Weaver wrote: P.S. erri, if you don't want to use the steam, a spray bottle of water will work, and it won't harm your hat.

that's what Fedora told me by email and it will be the first thing i will try

Thank you for the advices guys, if i will get the ideal hat i have in mind it would be thanks to you all

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:53 pm**

...and if it DOESN'T work, remember, it's Weaver's fault! 8-[

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:55 pm**

Michaelson wrote:...and if it DOESN'T work, remember, it's Weaver's fault! 8-[ Regards! Michaelson

Oh sure

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:57 pm**

Well, neither bink or Jess has been around to blame, so I had to use somebody!

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:26 pm**

erri-wan, I didn't mean to bust your chops. I just want to see better pics.

J-weaver , I forgot that it was rabbit and not beaver. I would drop steve a line and get his advise.

j-weaver, thats a pic of me at one of the department drills . We cut up three cars that night .

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:17 pm**

Oh don't worry, I've talked may things like that over with Steve. I even ordered my AB open crown and bashed it myself using steam. It really is much easier (and safer) than it sounds. Of course I did practice some before I tackled my AB.

P.S. Its a good thing that it was a drill and not for real.

EDIT: Here is a good tutorial on bashing a hat. It explains the steam thing pretty good. Bashing Tutorial

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:29 pm**

Great looking hat Signore! Congratulation! May you have many adventures in your new lid.

Cheers!

Dan

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:55 pm**

j-waever, I've seen that web page and have it in my favorite's on my computer. One day I might even give it a try.

A couple of day's later and I was on a call doing that same thing. I was very glad I had some practice. You can get rusty at this job real fast if you don't practice all the time ( thats why we drill all the time ).

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:26 pm**

And here all this time I thought it was just because ya'll like to go around destroying things.

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:03 pm**

you must be a cop.

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:09 pm**

jpenman wrote:you must be a cop.

Good guess...

...hey, no fair. You already know that I am.

Posted: **Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:39 pm**

yes, I'm just messing with you.

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:23 am**

jpenman wrote:erri-wan, I didn't mean to bust your chops. I just want to see better pics.

I know jpenman and i'm sorry but like i said it was too hot to go out and take good pics yesterday. Today i took new pics, so i hope you will be satisfied with these, my friend

... and if you are not, i will take more

everything for a fireman

have a look at my nice MKVII

.. no that scar is not a whip scar... something much worse... but very indesque anyway

poor me... that face is dued to the sun so don't get shoked by it

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:28 am**

Great light in these pics - nice hat!

(So you went by bike this day, huh?

)

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:34 am**

IndyJens wrote:Great light in these pics - nice hat!

(So you went by bike this day, huh? )

Yeah dude

that bike is my bike

Thanks for the compliments

have another

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:31 am**

Thanks erri -wan for posting those pics. the side of that hat couldn't be more straight ( looks great). It's good to see how people wear there hat's.Do you still want the strap?

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:48 am**

jpenman wrote:Thanks erri -wan for posting those pics. the side of that hat couldn't be more straight ( looks great). It's good to see how people wear there hat's.Do you still want the strap?

Thank you for the kind words mr fireman

I wear it like that because it's too hot and i didnt want to sweat on the inside part too much. The stright part told me Fedora will bend in time... using it.

for the strap
Yes, just trying to find bucks, i have only 3 by now, maybe other 3 incoming. Or we could do a deal if you need something i could send you from italy

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:27 pm**

I could always use a Ferrari.

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:17 pm**

Pagey wrote:Pull the front down a bit and curl up the sides. not in any special way, just while you're wearing it.

Don't know if with the rabbit works like with the beaver anyway i'm working under Fedora's suggestions and these are my first results but tomorrow i will work more on it, just waiting for more Fedora's hints, but yours are welcome anyway... everyone but sitting on the hat

:post:
i have something to ask to you Pagey but now i have to go out for about a hour, i'll be back and ask you suggestions to shape the hat in a peculiar way i saw in your pics (that's the real indylook i think).. see you soon

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:08 pm**

Erri,
Nice hat! Karate chop the center dent and pull the front of that brim down, and you'll be all set.

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:14 pm**

Erri, to get the camel hump like you want in the last pic you may have to deepen the top dent some. And don't be afraid to play around with it some, a hat is really harder to hurt than you think. Your also right about the rabbit not working like the beaver. The rabbit is a bit more "springy" than the beaver. Although you should be able to work a pretty good curl into the brim with just your hands. I think you will find that your hat will develop as you wear it. I know mine becomes better and better the more I wear it.

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:06 pm**

Hemingway Jones wrote:Erri,
Nice hat! Karate chop the center dent and pull the front of that brim down, and you'll be all set.

Karate wont be enough for a rabbit sorry Hemingway. I head it works on the beaver but rabbit, like Weaver said, is more "springy". I will have to work with moistening it again (with more water maybe) or steam... we will see next Fedora's replies

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:10 pm**

Pagey wrote:Nice looking hat there - but it wants to be shaped a bit, especially the brim. Pull the front down a bit and curl up the sides. not in any special way, just while you're wearing it.

pagey could you help me with getting your same brim shape of your right side? like in this pic

here a more detailed pic of what i want [red arrow]

from this

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:07 pm**

Great lookin' lid, erri_wan! In order to get that "brim swoop" you pointed out on Pagey's lid, you'll have to turn the hat. By the way it seems to sit on your head, my guess is that you will get a nice result by turning it...

And you might want to deepen that center dent a bit, just like J_Weaver suggested. For an Indy profile, make sure the back of the hat is a bit lower than the front (like in the pic you posted)

Check out this thread for more info on "the Raiders turn"...

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:36 am**

Scandinavia Jones wrote:Great lookin' lid, erri_wan! In order to get that "brim swoop" you pointed out on Pagey's lid, you'll have to turn the hat. By the way it seems to sit on your head, my guess is that you will get a nice result by turning it...

And you might want to deepen that center dent a bit, just like J_Weaver suggested. For an Indy profile, make sure the back of the hat is a bit lower than the front (like in the pic you posted)

Check out this thread for more info on "the Raiders turn"...

Thank you Scandinavia Jones, I read the topic about turning the hat but now i need to know how to do it

steam? water? the power of God?

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:09 am**

Just put the hat on your head, grab the brim and turn it. Look in a mirror. The desired brim swoop will appear once you've moved the hat far enough on it's axis (your head).

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:12 am**

Scandinavia Jones wrote:Just put the hat on your head, grab the brim and turn it. Look in a mirror. The desired brim swoop will appear once you've moved the hat far enough on it's axis (your head).

mmh i will try but i fear this works just with beaver hats, mine is a rabbit and this tessue react in a different way from beaver.
THanks for the advice anyway.
Right now i'm working on the "camel effect" ... later i will try your suggestion

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:25 am**

Hemingway Jones wrote:Erri,
Nice hat! Karate chop the center dent and pull the front of that brim down, and you'll be all set.

I did it! No karate no kung fu!

Just followed Fedora's suggestions, seems that last time i moistened it not enough. Today i tried again and this is my result!

...next job... the brim! 8-[

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:09 am**

erri_wan wrote:mmh i will try but i fear this works just with beaver hats, mine is a rabbit and this tessue react in a different way from beaver.

Fur quality has nothing to do with it - I turned my rabbit Akubra with good results. It's when the hat is "deformed" when worn off-centre that creates the brim swoop.

On his website, 3thoubucks wrote: The opening of a fedora is an oval, as is the shape of a head. Since they are in tight contact with each other, turning a hat sideways will distort the brim. The top of a fedora is an oval shape as well. The diagram represents the top of a fedora crown. Turning a hat will supply extra material to the left rear and right front areas of the sides of the crown and a front pinch will angle back more in front.

Harrison Ford has a fairly long, narrow head, and the Raiders hat was a tight fit. The rounder your head, or the looser your hat, the more it will need to be turned. (You may have to remove and reposition the ribbon if your bow gets too far forward).

Read more at http://www.raidershat.com/

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:20 am**

Ok i will read more, could you show me pics of your rabbit adventurebilt please?

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:53 am**

Thank you pagey for the hints... i will try for sure. Right now i'm working on the right side of the brim.

I know in the last pic i wasnt wearing it right but it was too hot and i didnt care too much LOL

:post: forgot to say that the dents are ok (if i got right what dents are

) it's just that in my pic i wasnt really in the same position of Mr Ford but a little turned on the left.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:12 am**

Indiana_Tone wrote:Haven't had a chance to hop on and post in a few days.

That's a great looking lid, Erri, and those subtle modifications you're making are looking better!

If I'm not mistaken, you are probably the first and only person in Italy to currently own the Adventurebilt fedora. That makes your hat an important relic in its own right if this is the case.

Hat is looking good, my friend. Wear it confidentally.

Very thank you for your kind words. I'm truly the only italian adventurebilter

and i'm honored of your words

thank you.
With your help, guys, i will turn my hat propertly

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:26 am**

I know everyone is an advocate of "the turn" but that brim swoop can be attained by a soft, thin, pliable felt and a slightly tight hat as well.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:34 am**

rick5150 wrote:I know everyone is an advocate of "the turn" but that brim swoop can be attained by a soft, thin, pliable felt and a slightly tight hat as well.

I agree. I've been saying that for years, and it's nice to see someone else say the same thing for once.

Regards! Michaelson

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:24 pm**

rick5150 wrote:I know everyone is an advocate of "the turn" but that brim swoop can be attained by a soft, thin, pliable felt and a slightly tight hat as well.

Hi Rick, thank you for answering me but i'm not sure i get what you mean sorry. At last i'm only Italian

sorry
I ask you to explan this better because i'm very interested.Thanks for the patience with me

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:11 am**

Indiana_Tone wrote:Erri,

Rick detto quello: Sa che tutto parla fedelmente "della rotazione del cappello" per lo sguardo, ma che lo stesso swoop del bordo può essere avuto da un feltro molle, sottile, flessibile e da un cappello un po'stretto misura pure senza girare il cappello.

Is this a google translation? I prefer explanation in English thanks

i'm not so bad in English, just want to be sure i got what Rick meant to say.
Thanks

:post: ow i nearly forgot ... another pic of the hat with me in Florence, i bet Hemingway will like this one

wow i really sweated yesterday... poor sweatband!

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:03 am**

erri_wan wrote: :post: ow i nearly forgot ... another pic of the hat with me in Florence, i bet Hemingway will like this one

Great pic Erri! Great background and the hat looks excellent, especially the brim in this pic. "Ah, Florence!"

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:27 am**

You could not imagine how HOT it was here yesterday (in that pic). I had to dry the sweatband many times.

Luckly today is windy so it's not so hot, i will go out again and... as usual with my hat.

Today i worked a bit more on the camel shape following Fedora's suggestions: i moistened the top of the front pinch, and pinched it tight. It worked great and now the modification is finally permantent! ...but there are the traces of my fingers on the pinch now

Will they go away?

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:20 am**

Indiana_Tone wrote:
erri_wan wrote:
Is this a google translation? I prefer explanation in English thanks i'm not so bad in English, just want to be sure i got what Rick meant to say.
Thanks
Sorry, Erri. It's actually my own attempt at Italian. Been trying to get a few other languages under my belt and, obviously, not succeeding.

As for the finger marks on the hat you might try a hatbrush.

Well i checked on google translator and, if this can help you, you were A LOT better than google!

I didnt know people could have been interested in learning italian, are you planning to come here?

For the finger marks... are you sure a hatbrush wont ruin the felt?
Maybe i will have to ask this to Mr Fedora

THank you for the help indiana tone

ciao

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:14 am**

i'm not so bad in English, just want to be sure i got what Rick meant to say.

Don't feel badly about it. Most of the time I have no idea what I am talking about...

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:41 pm**

Erri, your fedora looks magnifico!

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:45 pm**

Canyon wrote:Erri, your fedora looks magnifico!

thank you Canyon, glad you folks like it. I'm working on the brim in these days

rick ... LOL

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2005 2:22 pm**

Erri, do you like my avatar now?

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:10 pm**

Canyon wrote:Erri, do you like my avatar now?

Yep

very very very nice avatar

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:11 pm**

About the brim, these my first results in shaping it a little just with my hands...

I guess i will have to use more than just my hands

:post:
mmh again not the same angle, i should put the hat near the monitor next time and compare before take a new pic of the right side

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:34 pm**

Pagey wrote:I still say drop the corners of the side dents and move them back further.

hands are enough for this or i need to work with water or steam?

:post: ok handwork was enough

pics very soon

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