Club Obi Wan

BendingOak wrote:

Ridgerunner58 wrote:

Nevada Jones wrote:Talk about "double dipping!"

We passed "double" in '09. And we passed double digits last year.

And that would be me about 1/3 to 1/2 way back in the ABL line.

I'm so confused?

Unless I miscounted in my quick tally in my head, (a possibility that I NEVER dis out) the Legacy I ordered in August makes 11 that I have from you. The first 2 were ordered in 2009 and no. 10 was last year sometime. I estimate I'm about halfway through the wait time on the legacy.

Ridgerunner58 wrote:

BendingOak wrote:

Ridgerunner58 wrote:

Nevada Jones wrote:Talk about "double dipping!"

We passed "double" in '09. And we passed double digits last year.

And that would be me about 1/3 to 1/2 way back in the ABL line.

I'm so confused?

Unless I miscounted in my quick tally in my head, (a possibility that I NEVER dis out) the Legacy I ordered in August makes 11 that I have from you. The first 2 were ordered in 2009 and no. 10 was last year sometime. I estimate I'm about halfway through the wait time on the legacy.

I see the stuff I spray on the hat are working.

I have a question for BendingOak: The Raiders hat on the Indy page of your website. Is that Raiders hat a Beaver or Rabbit? And how much stiffer is the Beaver than the Rabbit? I've always like that stiff feel to Beaver hats and wondered if the same things can be achieved in the Rabbit. And will the Rabbit get that nice, faded, light brown tone like on the website of you Raiders hat when it has been used? I apologize for how many questions I have when I make these question posts.

I'm not sure if you mistaking dence with stiff. I would call my hats stuff as I ask my felters to use the least amount of stiffener as possible. I can always add to any felt at my shop but it's almost impossible to remove it once it's in. The Penman Indy hats are both rabbit and beaver.

BendingOak wrote: I see the stuff I spray on the hat are working.

Except it makes you crave Taco Bell late at night.

BendingOak wrote:I'm not sure if you mistaking dence with stiff. I would call my hats stuff as I ask my felters to use the least amount of stiffener as possible. I can always add to any felt at my shop but it's almost impossible to remove it once it's in. The Penman Indy hats are both rabbit and beaver.

Yep. Now is the Rabbit felt really soft? I have a fed deluxe IV and it is pretty soft(in terms of how it feels). Is the pic of the Raiders hat on your site a Rabbit or Beaver? Thank you for answering my questions.

baddates1 wrote:

BendingOak wrote:I'm not sure if you mistaking dence with stiff. I would call my hats stuff as I ask my felters to use the least amount of stiffener as possible. I can always add to any felt at my shop but it's almost impossible to remove it once it's in. The Penman Indy hats are both rabbit and beaver.

Yep. Now is the Rabbit felt really soft? I have a fed deluxe IV and it is pretty soft(in terms of how it feels). Is the pic of the Raiders hat on your site a Rabbit or Beaver? Thank you for answering my questions.

depends on the photo?


as for soft???? do you mean finish? you mean smooth to the touch? hold onto your socks.

Im sorry, I mean does your Rabbit Raiders hats have a very smooth surface? Or is it like a Fed Deluxe IV that doesnt have a very smooth finish, because it is pretty slippery when you grab onto it. Is it like as soft and slippery as a federation deluxe 4? And the pic on your website I am talking about is the very first pic on the Indy's Closet page. I'm sorry for the way I am describing things to you, I seem to not be able to describe things as well right now.

If by soft you are asking about the finish, then assuming my Cairo is typical of the finish on other rabbit felt Penman hats they are extremely well finished. The felt is not as dense and tightly felted as beaver fur, but not coarse like many "fur felt" hats. The finish is close to the smoothness of beaver, but there's a noticeable difference.

It is much better than the regular Fed IV, and even quite a bit better than the Heritage felt in the Fed IV Deluxe.

If by "soft" you are referring to the floppiness of the brim then John's rabbit felt is probably a bit floppier than beaver, which is a denser felt. I describe the felt on a beaver hat as more "moldable", i.e. you can push it around and it will hold a shape, than rabbit, which tends to spring back

Not sure if that helped baddates1, but knowing and owning like fedoras, I believe your description is spot on and perfect describers for quality made hats.

That's exactly how good beaver and rabbit hats SHOULD respond.

Regards! Michaelson

If memory serves me that one hat is beaver.

I'm not sure what you mean but my hats are superior then any akubra and that's me putting it in the modest way I can.

I like your hats far better then Fed's. I wasn't questioning the quality, I was just wondering about the feel and look. Thanks again for answering my questions. And sorry for not describing them so well.

Just got word from John Penman that my Raiders Fedora in Beaver (with a twist) is ready and should be in my possession by Friday.

Stay tuned to this thread because when he called me to tell me it's done and will be shipped, he was extra excited about this hat.

It will be his first to be produced by him with this NEW unique style and blend....if I understand him correctly.

Beaver/rabbit fur blend?

Cool! Cant wait for pics!

no blend. Still 100% beaver but I took what I learned from the light weight rabbit felt from the ABL collection and tried the same with beaver felt and worked great.

BendingOak wrote:no blend. Still 100% beaver but I took what I learned from the light weight rabbit felt from the ABL collection and tried the same with beaver felt and worked great.

Of course you did.

You DO know I'm running out of room for hatboxes, don't you.

Ridgerunner58 wrote:

BendingOak wrote:no blend. Still 100% beaver but I took what I learned from the light weight rabbit felt from the ABL collection and tried the same with beaver felt and worked great.

Of course you did.

You DO know I'm running out of room for hatboxes, don't you.

Yes, I am glad you said it, because I couldn't explain it accurately.

Nice. So will you be doing this from now on for your beaver fedoras? I still hope to place an order come tax return time.

If everyone likes them this will be my beaver offering from now on for Indy beaver hats.

BendingOak wrote:If everyone likes them this will be my beaver offering from now on for Indy beaver hats.

Send me one. I'll let you know.

BendingOak wrote:If everyone likes them this will be my beaver offering from now on for Indy beaver hats.

Is that just on the ROTLA versions? W>

Ridgerunner58 wrote:

BendingOak wrote:If everyone likes them this will be my beaver offering from now on for Indy beaver hats.

Send me one. I'll let you know.

Yeah me too. I think you need a control group.

Can't wait to see !!!

I think being able to see the hat will not have as much effect as being able to touch the hat.

The way John explained it to me is although it's a beaver felt hat, it feels and moves more like a lighter rabbit felt.

And it must look slightly different to the trained eyes...so I am sure those of you on here will be able to note some differences.

I just can't wait. It's going to be my first Indy hat.....& pretty sure my last.

car96 wrote:It's going to be my first Indy hat.....& pretty sure my last.

That's what they ALL say!!!

Penman Casablanca this morning

WConly wrote:

BendingOak wrote:If everyone likes them this will be my beaver offering from now on for Indy beaver hats.

Is that just on the ROTLA versions? W>

All Indy hats

Hello all, well I've received my AB Legacy on Wednesday of last week and with the aid of my wife we video taped me opening it. I only hope it plays better here than it does on photo bucket, we'll see. Looks like I can't get it to work so I posted a link, fingers crossed.
It would have been posted sooner but with COW being down for couple of days, while the powers that be (Dalexs and others) do some repairs on a minor fubar.

First off: this hat is butter soft, felt so smooth in my hands and while I have hats with a turn, not as pronounced as this one, took me while to get used to it, that and some fiddling to get it where I'm happier with the way it looks.
Heck this is the first fedora I've owned that the wind the other day blew the front up (but not off). Johns fit was perfect, my hairs a littlie shorter so I had to put one piece of hat foam to tighten till my hair comes back in.
The stitching is most defiantly different, used to not seeing it, but after awhile you don't even notice it.
Pic's to come in the next post from me. Soon.

Thank you John, if you need a review for your site, just let me know how and when. This hat is beautiful.

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Croft

Great video Croft! Thanks for posting that.

BendingOak wrote:

WConly wrote:

BendingOak wrote:If everyone likes them this will be my beaver offering from now on for Indy beaver hats.

Is that just on the ROTLA versions? W>

All Indy hats

Wow! Cool! Thanks! W>

car96 wrote:The way John explained it to me is although it's a beaver felt hat, it feels and moves more like a lighter rabbit felt.

John, just to be clear, the new beaver felt brim won't move around in the wind will it? It'll still feel substantial and offer protection from the elements?

Croft,

Great video - did not expect that!

I saw the AB liner, what does the sweat have printed on it?


Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Indiana Croft wrote:Hello all, well I've received my AB Legacy on Wednesday of last week and with the aid of my wife we video taped me opening it. I only hope it plays better here than it does on photo bucket, we'll see. Looks like I can't get it to work so I posted a link, fingers crossed.
It would have been posted sooner but with COW being down for couple of days, while the powers that be (Dalexs and others) do some repairs on a minor fubar.

First off: this hat is butter soft, felt so smooth in my hands and while I have hats with a turn, not as pronounced as this one, took me while to get used to it, that and some fiddling to get it where I'm happier with the way it looks.
Heck this is the first fedora I've owned that the wind the other day blew the front up (but not off). Johns fit was perfect, my hairs a littlie shorter so I had to put one piece of hat foam to tighten till my hair comes back in.
The stitching is most defiantly different, used to not seeing it, but after awhile you don't even notice it.
Pic's to come in the next post from me. Soon.

Thank you John, if you need a review for your site, just let me know how and when. This hat is beautiful.

http://s193.photobucket.com/user/indian ... sort=3&o=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Croft

very cool of you to take the time to make a little video of your "special moment"..and the quick change into Indy was nice..lol..congrats!!

Just watched the video Croft, that hat looks great on you. I love that turn in the hat! I really think there should be unboxing videos on youtube for the Penman Indiana Jones hats. They look great, and there should be more reviews on them. Anyway, congrats on a smart buy!

I can't view the video (

I was able to watch it on the iPad, but it took a few tries. In the computer was fine. Great video, by the way

Finally I got to see. it. Never knew my hats could do that. Very nice touch at the end.

I hope you don't mind me sharing this video on Facebook.

Indiana Jeff :

I saw the AB liner, what does the sweat have printed on it

Says the same as all AB "Adventurebilt Hat Co. Handmade, Fine Fur Felt"
The color is a much lighter brown than my other AB's which are a dark brown.

John

I hope you don't mind me sharing this video on Facebook.

I'd be honored.
Some credit to the misses as she was behind the camera, and very instrumental in getting changed in format so I could upload it.
My ABL is off to her.

And thanks to all who got a kick out of our little video, it was my intention to do this for fun
and it did turn out pretty good, I was very pleased.

Now for some still's. And just so you know, these I took yesterday, temp was between 30deg - 40deg. I have to be nuts.
Front view.
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Left side view.
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Right side view.
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Rear view.
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Crack that whip.
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Just another shot.
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And don't even think about it.
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Croft

Great pics..happy for you

Love the last shot.

Very nice. Hat looks great on you.

Thanks everyone, this will be my go to hat for awhile. Need to just get comfortable wearing it.

John thanks again for getting this to me sooner than later.
Kinda glad I have a hat size that you didn't have any orders for.

It's some times weird wearing a fedora with such a rich brown and so soft to the touch.
Anxious for it to break in. Speaking of breaking in, what's your lead time on re-blocks and
a cleaning on my AB from Mr. Delk.

Croft

John,

Have you heard anything from Steve? Just wondering how he is doing these days? Too bad he doesn't drop in sometimes and post like he used to?

The other day, I was taking a stroll through this thread and it really brought back some good memories. This has to be one of my fav. posts in here, but there are many good ones....haha!

Texan Scott wrote:Time for a new installment of something I like to call, "Nail that caption." Nail that caption! Here's hoping you'll play along...and the author has a good sense of humor...



He ordered the Penman's, he just forgot to pay for 'em!

...happens alot since he's been married.

**CUT!** No, no, no! Let the vehicle draaaaggg you!

I've heard of "road rage", but this is ridiculous!

...its the stocks...they really....tanked.

Never tell ethnic jokes to the Waffen SS!

Too much chili gives me the runs!

Never bring a Webley to a tank battle.

The band didn't have an appreciation for his "new" lyrics.

.....START THE PLYMOUTH, MARK!!!

Texan Scott wrote:The other day, I was taking a stroll through this thread and it really brought back some good memories. This has to be one of my fav. posts in here, but there are many good ones....haha!

Texan Scott wrote:Time for a new installment of something I like to call, "Nail that caption." Nail that caption! Here's hoping you'll play along...and the author has a good sense of humor...



He ordered the Penman's, he just forgot to pay for 'em!

...happens alot since he's been married.

**CUT!** No, no, no! Let the vehicle draaaaggg you!

I've heard of "road rage", but this is ridiculous!

...its the stocks...they really....tanked.

Never tell ethnic jokes to the Waffen SS!

Too much chili gives me the runs!

Never bring a Webley to a tank battle.

The band didn't have an appreciation for his "new" lyrics.

.....START THE PLYMOUTH, MARK!!!

Or! Boy, am I glad I shoved that rock into that barrel ! W>

Indiana Croft wrote:Thanks everyone, this will be my go to hat for awhile. Need to just get comfortable wearing it.

John thanks again for getting this to me sooner than later.
Kinda glad I have a hat size that you didn't have any orders for.

It's some times weird wearing a fedora with such a rich brown and so soft to the touch.
Anxious for it to break in. Speaking of breaking in, what's your lead time on re-blocks and
a cleaning on my AB from Mr. Delk.

Croft

your welcome and glad you like it. Most of my raiders blocks never sit on the shelf. They are always working.

I'm not taking any re-block work until the new year.

Texan Scott wrote:John,

Have you heard anything from Steve? Just wondering how he is doing these days? Too bad he doesn't drop in sometimes and post like he used to?

I have not heard from Steve. I will give him another try again this week but just as a reminder. I don't have a bat line to Steve. As we all know it's hit or miss. Sometime he catches my e-mails from the sea of e-mails he gets daily.

I'll back John on this one. I've had the same experience with email responses from Steve, as sometimes he catches mine, and sometimes he doesn't.

Regard! M