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Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:37 pm
by Tibor
Just to lend a machetes to my intellectual thicket (to paraphrase Jack Sparrow), I know Neil made one hero jacket in calfskin. Did he make the second in lamb? :TOH:

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:44 pm
by Ravenswood
Neil said he made his out of calf, Peter said he made his out of lamb. They seemed adamant about that. Therefore, it shouldn't be a stretch to think that most of the "hero screen time" is seen by the lamb jacket, with the Imam and Hawaii scenes belonging to the calf jacket. Of course, this is only theory. They look so similar anyways, there shouldn't be a difference to our eyes.

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:52 pm
by Tennessee Smith
I seriously doubt it's rope. ... But if we look at it long enough,


It could be :lol:

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:00 pm
by Ravenswood
thanks Holt!
Ok, I'm with you now.
And I am not contributing anything new, I am just trying to straighten this out in my own mind. Memory does not always serve :oops:

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:01 pm
by Holt
:TOH:

I really recommend catching up with the other NC threads laying around.

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:40 am
by Cowboy
Sgt. wrote:
Cowboy wrote:Wow. I take 1 year off and come back to find I have been left way behind! I too added my name to the list. 2 of my 3 don't fit anymore anyways. :lol: Howdy Michaelson, _ and gang.
Did I hear Michaelson say he is ordering a Custom made Raiders Indy as a Welcome Back?
" There is no Fireside like your own Fireside"
Sarge
;)

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:27 am
by Holt
Okay!

I cleaned this thread out.

STAY on topic!

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:27 am
by Michaelson
Good to see you around, Cowboy! :M: :tup:

Regards! Michaelson

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:03 am
by Tibor
So, if I have this right, Neil made 2 jackets for Raiders, both out of calf. And Sarge is offering a Raiders Neil Cooper in calf and in striated lamb. And I think he's offering the lamb, not because Neil used it originally, but because stunt jackets were lamb (from Peter) and because the calf hero jackets sometimes looked "lamby".

(Sarge and others can chime in if I've lost my way here)

Anyway, I think that's great! To each their own.

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:24 pm
by Sgt.
Tibor wrote:So, if I have this right, Neil made 2 jackets for Raiders, both out of calf. And Sarge is offering a Raiders Neil Cooper in calf and in striated lamb. And I think he's offering the lamb, not because Neil used it originally, but because stunt jackets were lamb (from Peter) and because the calf hero jackets sometimes looked "lamby".

(Sarge and others can chime in if I've lost my way here)

Anyway, I think that's great! To each their own.
Here are my thoughts.. Some Fans want Calf and some Fans want Striated Lamb !My feeling is why not offer both! The Bottom line for US Wings is that I love the Hobby and will walk the extra mile to offer the best quality and price for all the Fans and Honestly think Neil Cooper not only did he make the Raiders Jacket but was doing business with George Lucas for a very long time.. I know of no other person But Neil Cooper can Call George Lucas and get right through and as a business man that to me is the bottom line cut and dry! With that said I was going to form a board with some Fans on the Board to give advise about future Indy Jackets i 123and 4 and after Neil and I talking about that in detail Neil and I made the decision that He and and I will not have any outside advice.We will offer all Four Jackets as close to spec as Neil Cooper and US Wings Inc. can make.. again spec quality and price is the bottom line.
Sarge

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:29 pm
by Cassidy
Sgt. wrote:We will offer all Four Jackets as close to spec as Neil Cooper and US Wings Inc. can make.. again spec quality and price is the bottom line.
I think that is why so many of us who have been long in this hobby are excited, Sarge.

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:44 pm
by Sgt.
Cassidy wrote:
Sgt. wrote:We will offer all Four Jackets as close to spec as Neil Cooper and US Wings Inc. can make.. again spec quality and price is the bottom line.
I think that is why so many of us who have been long in this hobby are excited, Sarge.
Thank you that means a lot to me!! With that said I had thought some weeks back it would have been a good idea to form a Board to ask advice from the Fans.... WOW was I wrong.. Neil Has the Patterns.. I know a little about Marketing and The internet and last but not least making Leather Jackets!! and wanted to share my excitement of Talking Neil Cooper into doing me a Favor and helping US Wings make all Four Indy Jackets... Next thing I knew I had people telling me how to make Jackets..I was not aware I had so many Partners.
No Board No Advice.
Sarge

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:13 pm
by Tibor
Thanks Sarge. Can't wait to see the calf in person and on my back.

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:10 pm
by Mike
You're learnin' Sarge…you're learnin'. ;) :TOH:

Thanks for the clarifications.

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:08 pm
by crismans
Neil and I talking about that in detail Neil and I made the decision that He and and I will not have any outside advice.We will offer all Four Jackets as close to spec as Neil Cooper and US Wings Inc. can make.. again spec quality and price is the bottom line
Not that you need my "blessing" or anything, but I really think this is the way to go. Neil has the patterns, you have the facilities, and you both have more than your fair share of knowledge with jackets. This way there will be no doubt as to the authenticity of the offering (and I know you want 100% stitch for stitch authentic on these). :TOH:

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:13 pm
by PsychicsAndSwords
Sgt. wrote:
Tibor wrote:So, if I have this right, Neil made 2 jackets for Raiders, both out of calf. And Sarge is offering a Raiders Neil Cooper in calf and in striated lamb. And I think he's offering the lamb, not because Neil used it originally, but because stunt jackets were lamb (from Peter) and because the calf hero jackets sometimes looked "lamby".

(Sarge and others can chime in if I've lost my way here)

Anyway, I think that's great! To each their own.
Here are my thoughts.. Some Fans want Calf and some Fans want Striated Lamb !My feeling is why not offer both! The Bottom line for US Wings is that I love the Hobby and will walk the extra mile to offer the best quality and price for all the Fans and Honestly think Neil Cooper not only did he make the Raiders Jacket but was doing business with George Lucas for a very long time.. I know of no other person But Neil Cooper can Call George Lucas and get right through and as a business man that to me is the bottom line cut and dry! With that said I was going to form a board with some Fans on the Board to give advise about future Indy Jackets i 123and 4 and after Neil and I talking about that in detail Neil and I made the decision that He and and I will not have any outside advice.We will offer all Four Jackets as close to spec as Neil Cooper and US Wings Inc. can make.. again spec quality and price is the bottom line.
Sarge
Honestly, I think it's kind of... well, fantastic news that you'll be going completely by the original pattern, with no fan input. I'm pretty excited to see the result. Almost as excited as I am to get the naked cow Hero. \:D/

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:14 pm
by whipcracker
Sometimes I wonder why don't we just let the professionals do their work and be amazed at what Sarge and Neil Cooper bring to us? Now I am all for input and advice but now is a good time I think to just wait and see. But also, let us talk like kids about it. "I wonder if it's going to have action pleats in the lining like the Expedition?" or "I hope it has sliders and not d-rings." or "I hope it has a compass in the stock and this thing that tells time... :roll: " :lol:
Let's have a good time while waiting! I am patiently waiting like 6 yr old for Christmas for the jackets to come out. Anyone have a time acceleration device?

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:57 pm
by Lao Feng
Hi all -- I have been on extended travel. I come back on the verge of buying a US Wings goat that is on sale only to read all these great posts about the US Wings-Cooper offering in the Fall. What's a guy to do!? ](*,)

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:00 pm
by JC1972
Lao Feng wrote:Hi all -- I have been on extended travel. I come back on the verge of buying a US Wings goat that is on sale only to read all these great posts about the US Wings-Cooper offering in the Fall. What's a guy to do!? ](*,)
Buy both. But if only buying one, get the Cooper while you can at a great price and who knows how many will be made. Probably a once in a lifetime opportunity.

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:45 am
by Gringo
Hey Sarge, don't you love when people(who dont know) tell you your trade! Please do not let a few ruin you for the rest who know how much you are doing(because you do not have too!).Cheers

Re: Neil Cooper Raiders jacket

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:10 am
by Holt
Locked!