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Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:22 pm
by jnicktem
It's massive, a size 62. The sweatband really doesn't have wrinkles in it... but actual bends in the reed.
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:25 pm
by fenris
You're right... it's massive!
Even the reeds??? Wow! Now how did it develop those bends? Did you leave it near the furnace or something?
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:27 pm
by jnicktem
Let's just say it happened while I was "softening" the felt.
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Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:02 pm
by Luke Warmwater
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:37 pm
by Mitch LaRue
N i i i i i c e.
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Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:35 pm
by Indiana Bugs
Luke Warmwater wrote:Sent my F4 to Penman for a reblock job and it looks fantastic:
![Image](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2789/4444088338_1aec739894_b.jpg)
John replaced the sweatband, liner and ribbon.
Wow, hard to believe thats a fed IV. Looks great.
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:52 pm
by Texan Scott
Yeah, that side view just doesn't resemble the felt color of a Fed. If not for the thickness of the brim, I would not have known.
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:34 am
by singsingjohnny
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:42 pm
by backstagejack
Looks great!! I think part of my problem with getting a good LC curl on the sides...is my head seems to be wider then it is long....I have a round head instead of an oval. When I initially put on my fed out of the box, the sides were dead on and the front and back, not quit touching. I've since put in some foam but that doesn't give me that long oval Ford head that makes the indy hat do its greatness......*sigh*
I heard that PB used to make a hat specifically shorter in front and back for people like me so it would do what I want it to do....wonder if I can get a penman like that, or if he'd recommend it?
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:33 pm
by Joeyeah_right
Just got my brown FedIV Deluxe a couple of days ago:
It's SO nice and dry-bashed perfectly for the way I liked it
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Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:42 pm
by Michaelson
Perfect! Suits you right down to the soles of your boots, my friend!
HIGH regards! Michaelson
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:16 pm
by Mitch LaRue
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:19 pm
by singsingjohnny
Thanks man, I'm really loving it...the sickness is taking me over...slowly...
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Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:17 pm
by Joeyeah_right
Michaelson wrote:Perfect! Suits you right down to the soles of your boots, my friend!
HIGH regards! Michaelson
Thanks Michaelson
Joe
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:22 am
by The Antiquarian
EDIT-Nevermind.
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:32 am
by crismans
@ Joeyeah_right--Very nice looking Fed and really suits you. I'm also digging that jacket. What's the story there?
@ The Antiquarian--I'm not a "right hat for facial type" expert by any means, but I think that hat suits you just fine!
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:32 pm
by Luke Warmwater
2010 Cherry Blossom Festival, Washington DC:
![Image](http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs363.snc3/23448_113786628636889_100000166560733_259612_4862030_n.jpg)
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:50 pm
by Mitch LaRue
VERY nice photo, Luke.
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Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:10 pm
by backstagejack
Question...I'm fairly new at ordering hats so forgive for the newbie question. What's the plastic thing that comes with the akubra's? It's black, about 6 inches long, and tapers at both ends then fans out.....
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:19 pm
by Kilgour Trout
I think it's like a Shoe Horn for a person's Head if
it's a little bit big for the Hat.
Kilgour Trout
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:25 am
by backstagejack
Kilgour Trout wrote:I think it's like a Shoe Horn for a person's Head if
it's a little bit big for the Hat.
Kilgour Trout
Yeah I don't know what it is.....but it comes taped to the top of every akubra I've gotten (granted I've only bought two...)
I'm sure one of the hatperts on this site can tell us....
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:03 am
by Joeyeah_right
backstagejack wrote:Kilgour Trout wrote:I think it's like a Shoe Horn for a person's Head if
it's a little bit big for the Hat.
Kilgour Trout
Yeah I don't know what it is.....but it comes taped to the top of every akubra I've gotten (granted I've only bought two...)
I'm sure one of the hatperts on this site can tell us....
Actually, I think it may be the handle for the box the hat came in. I have 2 FedIVs and inside the box is taped a bit of plastic that looks like it should be the handle that would fit inside the slot on the side of the box.
Is this what you are referring to?
Joe
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:20 pm
by Fedora
Regarding these Fed 4's, I pulled a new one from the box yesterday, a size 7 1/2 and its been awhile since I have seen one. My own is packed up with a CS crease in it, so I was surprised to see just how well this block pulls off the Raiders look. Pretty close IMO. So, looks like this hat makes a great Raiders fedora, and better than the old Feds IMO. Fedora
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:50 pm
by backstagejack
Joeyeah_right wrote:
Actually, I think it may be the handle for the box the hat came in. I have 2 FedIVs and inside the box is taped a bit of plastic that looks like it should be the handle that would fit inside the slot on the side of the box.
Is this what you are referring to?
Joe
Yeah....thats probably what it is.....
I kinda feel stupid now........
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Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:02 pm
by Texan Scott
..they make large toothpicks in Aussie land.
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:46 pm
by Kilgour Trout
Hey Steve: Would you mind clarifying your thoughts on this.
Do you mean the Fed IV "block" lends itself to a Raider's bash
better than the Old Fed III's? That's interesting as I've heard
some concerns about not enough crease depth on the Fed IV.
I don't expect the Fed IV to have the brim of a Raiders but the
crown is a surprise.
Perhaps you could take a few snaps of your new Fed IV?
Cheers
Kilgour Trout
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:05 pm
by Fedora
Hey Steve: Would you mind clarifying your thoughts on this.
Do you mean the Fed IV "block" lends itself to a Raider's bash
better than the Old Fed III's? That's interesting as I've heard
some concerns about not enough crease depth on the Fed IV.
Sure. The one I have here, a brand new Fed 4 bought early last year has a really good blockshape for the Raiders fedora. Now, not perfect, but pretty darn good. I recall Ron sending me one of the new Fed 4s back right before they came out with them, and I just creased it CS style, but never paid any attention to the crown that much. Then I picked this other new one up creased it Raiders style and was surprised that it looked better to me than the old Federation. Had no trouble with the top crease. I will snap a pic tomorrow and show ya what I am talking about. Fedora
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:36 am
by Luke Warmwater
that's a pretty good endorsement!!
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:21 pm
by fuzzjunk
scottyrocks6 wrote:Luke Warmwater wrote:Sent my F4 to Penman for a reblock job and it looks fantastic:
![Image](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2789/4444088338_1aec739894_b.jpg)
John replaced the sweatband, liner and ribbon.
Wow, hard to believe thats a fed IV. Looks great.
Agreed, looks Fantastic!
I would like to change the ribbon on my Fed 4 Deluxe too, I don't know if I should go with Todd's ribbon, or just by some black ribbon. I was think the contrast of a black ribbon might look better on a Fed because of its darker felt color.
-Scott
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:35 pm
by fuzzjunk
Well I went ahead and made a new bow. I went with plain black grosgrain ribbon that I got from Wal-mart. I've never sewn before or done anything like this so I was a bit nervous, especially once I ripped off the original bow.
EDIT: I think I have a little OCD.
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I went to JoAnn fabrics and bought some better ribbon that wasn't so thin/glossy looking and made another bow.
ORIGINAL AKUBRA BOW
MY NEW BOW
-Scott
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:27 pm
by Mitch LaRue
Wow, fuzzjunk... I'm impressed!
For what it's worth,
I think you did pretty darn great with that ribbon...
If you hadn't said it, I'd never have guessed that you'd never tried something like that before.
Well done!
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Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:37 pm
by Noah
Great job Scott! Very impressive, and I agree with Mitch I wouldn't guess it was your first time!
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Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:17 pm
by BendingOak
I would suggest taking of the fed 4 ribbon ( just the bow and knot). leave the ribbon that raps around it. Iron the bow flat and re-make the bow. The sew the bow and knot onto the hat.
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:28 am
by fuzzjunk
Thanks for the comments guys. I'm really enjoying the new look.
BendingOak wrote:I would suggest taking of the fed 4 ribbon ( just the bow and knot). leave the ribbon that raps around it. Iron the bow flat and re-make the bow. The sew the bow and knot onto the hat.
What type/size of needle should I be using when sewing into the felt?
It was weird to see that the original Fed bow was taped on the backside.
-Scott
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:22 pm
by fenris
fuzzjunk wrote:Thanks for the comments guys. I'm really enjoying the new look.
BendingOak wrote:I would suggest taking of the fed 4 ribbon ( just the bow and knot). leave the ribbon that raps around it. Iron the bow flat and re-make the bow. The sew the bow and knot onto the hat.
What type/size of needle should I be using when sewing into the felt?
It was weird to see that the original Fed bow was taped on the backside.
-Scott
taped? like those thin, transparent double-sided adhesive tapes?
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:57 am
by fuzzjunk
Yes, but it wasn't double sided though, the adhesive was on the side sticking to the bow not the felt. The bow was sewn to the hat, I'm guessing the tape was used to hold the knot in place on the bow. I'll have to take another look at it.
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:19 am
by binkmeisterRick
I've seen that on a few vintage hats, where they will use a piece of tape to keep the knot of the bow in place as it's sewn to the hat.
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:27 am
by The Antiquarian
Not particularly "Indiana Jones," but here's me going on a hike today while wearing my Federation IV and a cotton, khaki B-15 bomber jacket.
Another angle:
What do you think, can I pull it off? I guess I can, as I frequently get compliments while wearing it... especially on campus at school. But what's your opinion? Is the Fed IV a bit big for me?
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:39 am
by jkdbuck76
It is not too big for you.
Maybe someone can get a shot of you about 10 feet away.
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:18 am
by BendingOak
binkmeisterRick wrote:I've seen that on a few vintage hats, where they will use a piece of tape to keep the knot of the bow in place as it's sewn to the hat.
It's a short cut and a no, no.
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Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 4:12 pm
by kwad
Here's a couple of outdoor shots of me and my Fed4. Man, I love this hat!!
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:04 pm
by The Antiquarian
My Federation at it's current state, I had re-creased the whole thing from scratch today after wetting it. In my opinion, it's just about screen-accurate, moreso than the way I had it before, with the semi-diamond crease and slightly lower crown, and all.
Yeah, I know. Probably not one of the best examples of screen-accuracy, but this will do until I feel the need to try to fine-tune it even further. For now, I'm happy to see the return to an authentic Raider center-crease.
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 2:32 am
by darthbish
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:15 pm
by Luke Warmwater
Mmm, me too. Went to Gettysburg Battlefield today with the family; the F4 kept my head dry.
![Image](http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs634.snc3/31820_128660640482821_100000166560733_334831_8323440_n.jpg)
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:27 pm
by Travelsonic
On my Youtube video a guy is ranting about the current Akubra Federations, complaining about taper and other issues, anybody experience a degrade in quality, or is this a guy making a big deal over 1 bad hat kinda thing?
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:20 pm
by Luke Warmwater
Well, after numreous rainstorms, swimming in the Potomac River, digging out from Snowpocalypse, mine did develop a taper. I had it reblocked and it and it's good as new.
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:50 pm
by The Antiquarian
This is what mine looks like at present:
What do you think, a bit of a Crystal Skull look going on with it?
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 11:53 am
by Indiana Bugs
The bottom of the pinch looks a bit too wide even for CS, imho.
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 12:10 pm
by fenris
The Antiquarian wrote:![Image](http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/6193/dsc00013mm.jpg)
At first glance from that angle, it looks like it's tapered.
But on the 3rd pic it doesn't look like so.
Re: The Federation IV Display Page
Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:18 pm
by Texan Scott
I have a new Fed. IV Deluxe size 58 cm and would like to exchange it for a new 59 cm, if any are out there.